I have run into about ten of these people who are descendants of the marriage(s) of Christ to women - and the attendant posterity. I am just starting to finally read the physical copy of Dynasty of the Holy Grail, by Vern Swanson which lays down the case based on excellent research. All of these people are special and have a look that I can pick out of a crowd. It has not so much to do with a countenance per-se, but it has to do with how they accept and embrace the truth. You will have to read the book to understand what I am saying.
Here is something interesting on the subject:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3376547/?report=reader
To make this argument, you need every dance the rhesus antigen existed in everybody until about 2,000 years ago in Israel. To prove it you would also need a sample of Christ's blood.
ReplyDeleteNo such sample exists, and the fact that other mammals can be Rh positive or negative is strong evidence against your hypothesis.
Ok so I don't really have any background on the basic premise, or a lot that would help me understand the article. But many years ago, after dealing with numerous RoGham shots due to my RH negative status and being married to an RH positive man, I began to wonder about this strange anomaly.....it seems wrong that God would create us to not have compatible blood! I began to wonder how many of our children would have died as a result, and if this what was possibly the problem with Joseph and Emma's babies. It occurred to me finally that the Lord did command the Israelites to NOT mix with the gentiles or their blood would be cursed. I think now that this was not just figurative, but a literal cursing! Few babies being able to live, and I know that an Rh negative mother's milk hurts a baby once she is producing antibodies. To me it is the only thing that makes sense....and I have wanted to find out for years, whether this Rh issue is a worldwide thing, or just mainly of those descended from Europeans and the Middle East. (since the northern tribes were scattered throughout the area) I would also like to know if the Jews are mostly all one blood type or another, or Rh positive or negative? Robin
ReplyDeleteAfter some online research I found the following distribution in the Israeli population:
DeleteO+ 32.0% A+ 34.0% B+ 17.0% AB+ 7.0% O- 3.0% A- 4.0% B- 2.0% AB- 1.0%
Therefore about 10% of the Israeli population is Rh negative.
The Rh negative population is much higher in Norway (15%), Sweden (16%), Spain (19.5%) and even the United States (15%) and Canada (14.9%)
Looking at the global distribution I cannot accept the suggestion that all Rh negative people are descended from the Savior. And the fact that some primates have Rh+ and Rh- blood further convinces me that this gene did not originate with the Savior.
Although it was originally called Rhesus Factor from studies in the Rhesus Monkey, the Rh factor in human blood is not present in other primates or other animals.
DeleteHow do you know Jesus had multiple wives? I'm not saying he didn't, just curious where that information comes from.
ReplyDeleteThe book referred to in this post "Dynasty of the Holy Grail: Mormonism's Sacred Bloodline" by Vern G. Swanson lays out the case for it. There are multiple quotes from early apostles such as Orson Hyde (whom Joseph Smith is proported to have pronounced a literal descendant of Christ), and early Christian writers like Celsus. I don't think it's in the book, but apparently Bruce R. McConkie even made the same suggestion. That is such a wonderful book! It inadvertently helps explain some of the "why's" of the priesthood ban as well. I just don't think we can fully grasp how literal a thing blood and lineage is until we have under our belts some of the concepts in Swanson's book.
DeleteI am AB - thankfully married to a neg blood type. I do not believe rH neg blood is a blessing, but rather a curse, disease, and or bad anomaly. Dr John R Christopher (LDS herbalist and naturopath was able to reverse the rH factor in women by changing their diets and cleasing the blood stream :
ReplyDelete"Rh Factor: Dr. Christopher worked during pregnancies to heal women with serious problems, and his results seem to us miraculous. One of his students from northern Utah had had three children with the Rh problem; in each case, they had to have a complete blood transfusion, having their blood completely drained out of them. This lady was told that because of her advanced Rh problem, she was not to have any more children. In addition to the Rh problem, she would require open heart surgery, and another pregnancy might kill not only her, but the child. She asked Dr. Christopher for help. He could promise her nothing, but tried to help her cleanse her blood. She took the Blood Stream Formula tea in order to cleanse the blood, the female corrective formula Female Reproductive and hormone-balancing formula Hormonal Changease, and plenty of red raspberry leaf tea. After a lecture some time later, the lady approached Dr. Christopher with a new baby, born naturally with no Rh problem whatsoever. The lady had several children since that time, with no more trouble. This shows that the Rh factor stems from a problem o f toxicity inside the mother, which can be overcome with herbs and diet. [Every Womens Herbal p.50]"
YES, it's true Jesus Christ has living descendants and NO, some of them don't have RH blood issues. They're type O as a matter of fact and also through declared lineage.
ReplyDeleteNo one be dismayed. ANYONE who loves God repents, keeps His commandments, receives His ordinances, and endures to the end faithfully WILL BE HIS SEED, RECEIVE HIS NAME UPON THEM, and LIVE WITH HIM FOREVER AS HIS FAMILY!
Because of a truth, there are some with the "special" DNA I know personally who do fall away. God is no respecter of persons. His eyes search the earth to and fro for those who will have Him to be their God.
And Dr. John R. Christopher was an amazing man/master herbal healer. God inspired him make medicine that worked miracles for so many.
The Dynasty of the Holy Grail is a book of very deep import and most valuable.
Just trying to say is that it matters most to God who you are inside. He looks on the heart, not your DNA to qualify for His kingdom. Don't want anyone feeling like they're not special.
But that's precisely the one of the points of the Dynasty book - "who you are inside" has the power to change your physiology. Joseph Smith taught that those who are not literally the seed of Abraham by blood will have a new creation by the Holy Ghost when they enter into the covenant of baptism & receipt of the Holy Ghost. And isn't that why we take the Sacrament? ...To become, over time, the literal seed of Christ -- "that when He shall appear we shall be like Him." If a person isn't "special" it is always by choice - not because they were denied an opportunity.
DeleteWe take the Sacrament to renew our covenants with the Savior - to always remember Him, to keep His commandments. We take the sacrament in remembrance of His shedding of His blood here on earth so that as He overcame death - so we now may also rise again - and by obedience and ordinances join Him and enjoy Eternal Life. Blood is of this earth - when we are resurrected - we will be quickened by the spirit - blood doesn't continue. This theory of Vern Swanson is a "theory" not doctrine. When we start going down these roads of "theory" we can lose our gospel bearing. If Christ did have wives - we will learn of it beyond the veil, meanwhile it doesn't affect our personal progression. I don't remember Bruce R. McConkie making any mention of these ideas - and I was and still am close to his family. I happen to be Rh Negative - but don't have any illusions I am saved or have preference in the Lord's Kingdom - rather only on my own faith, obedience and works. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade - but sometimes we try too hard to unravel mysteries that aren't ours to unravel.
DeleteThank you for the clarification about the Sacrament and its TRUE Doctrine and purpose. Perfectly spoken. It is the Lord who has the power to change physiology. I weary of those who look beyond the mark of the simplicity of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. When He appears, we'll be like Him because we'll be ONE in heart and mind and spirit with Him. Wonder woman needs to better understand the covenant relationship of Jesus Christ being our advocate.
DeleteThe missionaries called me a "golden" and said they'd never met anyone who so willing accepted what they were saying as TRUTH. I read the Book of Mormon in 4 days hardly eating/sleeping at the age of 19. I KNEW it was true before I finished it. My blood type is O positive and my lineage is through Joseph of Egypt, yet the blood of Jesus Christ and an apostle runs through my children's veins and they're not RH blood types. Neither is their father.
This is how troubles tend to get introduced into Church membership. Members go off on tangents wresting scripture and inserting speculation. And what I meant by "special" Wonder woman is that I didn't want anyone feeling like a second class citizen in the Kingdom of God due to some THEORY on blood type. You know how kids can be so cruel on the playground.
I'm content with what the Lord has revealed to gain entrance into His Kingdom/family.
Some subjects are just better left alone and we had better be more careful how we handle/discuss ANYTHING concerning Jesus the Christ, the Son of the Most High God, like it's table talk over coffee cake and hot cocoa.
So interesting! I had a personal witness last year that I am a descendant of Jesus Christ's bloodline. I've never shared with anyone but kept it special to myself. I am also RH negative. Because my blood type is rare, the Red Cross has me on speed dial for donations. IRAQ the way you describe the descendants you have met, is the way people tend to always describe me. Things really clicked and I felt the Spirit when I read this. Who knows...maybe I'm being prompted to learn more about it. Maybe it has something to do with the spiritual gifts we are born with? All kinds of possibilities are entering my mind. So interesting. No, the mysteries aren't pertinent to our salvation but I have found that having a desire to learn them opens up doors for so many blessings! At least that has been my experience :) I don't think there is a limit to what we can learn on this side of the veil. The Brother of Jared is a perfect example. Ask and ye shall receive :)
ReplyDeleteI am Rh negative and have wondered about this for years. After reading several theories it is a pretty good conclusion that indeed we are almost two separate species. You do not see the rejection of the baby from the mother in nature this same way unless closely related but different species interbreed. After reading the dynasty of the hol Grail I concluded that this is the only logical explanation for the Rh factor and it makes perfect sense when paired with the suspected theory that Jesus' friends and descendants sailed to what is now Scotland but making a pit stop in anjewish friendly area of France now known as the Basque region. and then knowing that the Nephites and Lamanites immigrated to the land northward could explain it all. I've studied this topic and prayed and pondered on it quite a bit. I feel like I received a confirmation of sorts that this was indeed the case but to be careful with the information because essentially we are all brothers and sisters. Interestingly enough my family is Scottish and my maiden name means "son of the stranger" it is one of the oldest known surnames in the region as well. Very interesting stuff :). Love your blog
ReplyDeleteFrom these comments and Iraq's posts, I really only see A LOT of narcissists!
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