AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY ON THE RISE ACCORDING TO PROPHECY

This is not a political blog - but I do have to say my wife and I will, for the first time in our lives, go independent for Ron Paul who is actually backing the Constitution - and has never said it is "outmoded" like some people in the high halls of power seem to think it is....  I cannot back Romney since he dissed his own g-pa who fled to Mexico to live out his life under (what I thought after reading Section 132) what is the higher law for those who have the character and the backbone and raw will to live it; basically saying that those who live the way Abraham and other greats did, were freaks.  I cannot back someone who flip flops on issues like a loose piece of tin on a roof in a windstorm, and who has the backbone of a jellyfish....

So I am left with no choice but to back someone who just has character and is faithful to his wife (that is my minimum requirement for politicians as of late).....  Its not just me either who is becoming part of the prophecy of our political future where Joseph Smith said the two parties would go to war and the Independent movement would rise up out of the resulting mess.  We are IN IT folks.

Next steps:

1) Completion of the existing Financial collapse.
2)  (un)Civil War.  There is rarely any civility in it.....
3)  Weakness due to internal strife will cause us to be invaded by the "red" forces.  Gee; wonder who or what that could be....
4)  Nasty war of desolation on our own soil accompanied by plagues, limited nuclear, etc.

Here is what got me spun up:

Originally published June 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM | Page modified June 4, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Poll: More independents, more polarized parties

Call it a pox on both the Republican and Democratic houses.

By JENNIFER AGIESTA

Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Call it a pox on both the Republican and Democratic houses.
More Americans now call themselves politically independent than at any point in the last 75 years, according to a new poll. The survey also shows that those who do align themselves with a party are more ideological and have become more polarized than at any point in the last 25 years, particularly on issues important in this year's presidential and congressional campaigns.
Party loyalty, however, only goes so far; neither Republicans nor Democrats say their own party is doing a good job standing up for its traditional positions.
Five months before the November elections, the Pew Research Center poll released Monday sheds light on how the electorate feels about the nation's two major political parties. And sour seems to be an understatement.
The results indicate a collective thumbs down to both the Democratic and Republican Party, showing that an unprecedented 38 percent of adults rejected both parties and call themselves independents. Only 32 percent now say they are Democrats and 24 percent now call themselves Republicans.
This flight away from the two major political parties began in 2008, a time of intense partisanship as President Barack Obama battled Republican Sen. John McCain for the White House.
Then as now, independent voters are a critical constituency that candidates must win over to prevail in competitive general elections.
Exit polls show these voters have sided with the winning candidate in all but two of the past 10 presidential elections. Independents broke for Obama, 52 percent to 44 percent for McCain four years ago. And recent polling suggests independents are about evenly divided now between Obama and Mitt Romney, his likely Republican rival.
Independent voters also have been on the winning side in congressional contests eight out of nine times since the 1994 election, when Republicans took control of the House for the first time in 40 years.
So both Republicans and Democrats are making serious plays to win them over.
The survey found that the face of the independent voter also is changing, posing challenges for Democrats.
More Hispanic and younger voters - key Democratic voting blocs - say they are politically independent and Republicans are aggressively courting them.
Hispanics who describe themselves as independents have jumped from 31 percent in 2006 to 46 percent now. And nearly half of Americans born since 1981 now say they are independents.
To be sure, 56 percent of Americans still identify themselves as a member of either the Democratic or the Republican parties.
But the parties are pushing out those in the ideological middle.
The vast majority of Republicans, 68 percent, say they are conservative, up from 60 percent in 2000. And the conservative Democrat has become scarce as the share of self-described liberals in the party has grown 10 points since 2000, from 28 percent to 38 percent. As the moderates abandon both parties, the poll finds partisans' views on the major issues in this year's campaign have become more deeply polarized since the Pew Center first measured those views in 1987.
The poll measured opinions on 48 different questions about basic political values, and found Democrats and Republicans farther apart than at any point since 1987.
The sharpest differences between partisans fall mostly on the issues at the core of this year's campaign regarding government's role and effectiveness: whether regulation helps or hurts business, how involved government should be in people's lives and whether government programs are effective or wasteful. Sharp differences also centered on the question of how much of a "social safety net" government should provide - whether government should make sure every citizen's basic needs are met or take care of those in need even if it means more debt.
Shifting opinions on these issues are not limited to core partisans: Independents who lean toward either Republicans or Democrats are also more sharply polarized from each other than they were 25 years ago, particularly on how much government should do and how effective it is.
Obama holds a slim edge over Romney in the poll, 49 percent to 45 percent, among registered voters, and the results suggest the sharpest divides between Romney and Obama supporters are over the role and effectiveness of government.
About one-fourth of voters are "swing voters," or those who are not firmly committed to a candidate. Ideologically, this group is closer to Romney on the social safety net, but closer to Obama on social issues and questions about labor unions. They fall about evenly between the two on the role of government.
The poll also found a liberal shift on social issues in recent decades, with fewer saying they hold old-fashioned values about family and marriage, or the role of women.
The Pew Research Center 2012 Values Survey was conducted by telephone April 4-15 among a random national sample of 3,008 adults. Interviews were conducted by live interviews and respondents were reached on landline and cellular telephones. The margin of sampling error for results based on all interviews is plus or minus 2.1 percentage points.
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FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE DISILLUSIONED WITH THE EXISTING INEFFECTUAL TWO PARTY SYSTEM

Now remember, this is not a political blog - but one that decries the downfall of this great nation from one of Godliness to one of an "unblessed" nature where we deal only in regret and memories of what used to be and a prolonged state of mourning that the previous Nephites were in as they looked on their fair ones who had fallen.

This piece is something my wife sent that sums up our awful state of political decline and manipulation. Whose state is not possible to change due to the spiritual intoxication of the majority of the population:

We Americans need to wake up to the "Quigley Formula" and realize we are played like pawns in these false and manufactured "right vs. left," "democrat vs. republican" sham arguments and contests. Almost all of talk radio runs in this format, the Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/O'Reilly propagandists and their counterpart "liberal" media leave a ton of issues off the table and just run a dialectic that many fall for. Rather than bring up real news, they manufacture a bunch of hype to divide Americans in immature and foolish bickering, keeping people's eye off the real issues if greatest import to the power elite, the Military-industrial-complex and the moneychangers. Meanwhile, behind the scenes, the Dems and Repubs are in alignment and united on the weighty matters of the CFR agenda, of which David Rockefeller boasts to be part of, saying it is a "secret cabal" they are working for to bring about a new global "order." This he states on page 405 of his book "Memoirs" published in 2002.

Here is the Quigley formula as spell out by Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown, Professor Carrol Quigley who wrote "Tragedy and Hope" which was meant for the eyes of the establishment only, not for public consumption:

"The National parties and their presidential candidates, with the Eastern Establishment assiduously fostering the process behind the scenes, moved closer together and nearly met in the center with almost identical candidates and platforms, although the process was concealed as much as possible, by the revival of obsolescent or meaningless war cries and slogans (often going back to the Civil War). … The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy. … Either party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies." [Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time (New York: Macmillan, 1966), pp. 1247-1248.]

POLITICAL CHAOS IN THE U.S. - IT'S COMING

I PUT THIS IN MY FIRST BLOG ENTRY IN JAN 2008 WITH ALOT OF OTHER RELEVANT INFO. I ALSO FOUND A LINK TO THE ONLINE VERSION OF MOSIAH HANCOCK'S DIARY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ THE ENTIRE QUOTE IN CONTEXT FROM MOSIAH'S DIARY: http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/MHancock.html

HERE IS A GREAT YOU-TUBE PRESENTATION OF THE MOSIAH HANCOCK PROPHECY - WHY READ WHEN YOU CAN WATCH?

I DECIDED TO BREAK THIS OUT AND RE-PUBLISH IT BECAUSE IT IS SO RELEVANT TO THE TIMES (BUT PROBABLY 10-20 YEARS OUT FOR FINAL COMPLETION). NOTE THE TIME STAMP ON THE ORIGINAL E-MAIL - LAST ELECTION). ENJOY:


IN LIGHT OF THINGS CURRENTLY GOING ON, HERE ARE SOME INTERESTING PROPHECIES.

THE FOLLOWING WAS MADE BY JOSEPH SMITH EIGHT DAYS BEFORE HIS DEATH IN 1844. WE ORIGINALLY GOT THE E-MAIL BELOW FROM RON MANN (A FORMER HIGHER LEVEL BOEING (SENIOR LOBBYIST) GUY THAT HAS SINCE MOVED TO THE INTER-MOUNTAIN REGION AND WHOSE PASSION IS THINGS HISTORICAL).

SHAWNA VERIFIED THE BOLDED SECTION FROM A CDM ROM OF HISTORICAL DIARIES AND CHURCH COLLECTIONS THAT WE HAVE AT HOME:

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 1:07 PM

Subject: R Mann talk

A Prophecy Pertaining to Today?

"Mosiah Hancock, son of a close friend and bodyguard of Joseph Smith, recorded an important prophecy as having been made by the Prophet.

According to his diary, this prophecy was made the day after Joseph made his final speech to the Nauvoo Legion (Wednesday, June 19, 1844; eight days before his martyrdom).

After telling how the Prophet discussed a map of the West and foretold the route the Saints would follow in their western exodus, Hancock records Joseph Smith statement to him that,

"There will be two great political parties in this country.

One will be called the Republicans* and the other the Democrat party. These two parties will go to war** and out of these two parties will spring another party which will be the Independent American Party***.

The United States will spend her strength and means warring in foreign lands**** until other nations will say, 'Let's divide up the lands of the United States'. Then the people of the U.S. will unite and swear by the blood of their fore-fathers, that the land shall not be divided.

Then the country will go to war, and they will fight until one half of the U.S. army will give up, and the rest will continue to struggle.

They will keep on until they are very ragged and discouraged, and almost ready to give up - when the boys from the mountains will rush forth in time to save the American Army from defeat and ruin. And they will say, 'Brethren, we are glad you have come, give us men, henceforth, who can talk with God'. Then you will have friends, but you will save the country when it's (sic) liberty hangs by a hair, as it were."

(Mosiah Lyman Hancock, Life Story of Mosiah Lyman Hancock, p.29).

* The Republican Party originated in Ripon Wis. in early 1854 and was formalized on July 4, 1854 in Jackson, Michigan. The first national convention was held in Philadelphia, Pa., on June 17, 1856--Ten years after this prophecy was made!

** I believe this war of words was started for real with election difficulties of this year (Nov 7,2000) and will be exacerbated within a short time.

***An Independent American party presently exists in several states.

**** Since 1992 the United States military has been reduced to less than 50% of what is was in 1991 and less than before the II World War. It has spent it's strength and means warring in foreign wars needlessly. This is especially true during the past twelve years when every conflict has been politically motivated, not necessitating the U.S. involvement!

HERE IS AN INTERESTING PREDICTION THAT I FOUND ON THE DRUDGE REPORT BY A RUSSIAN ANALYST. IT POINTS TO FINANCIAL COLLAPSE, THEN POLITICAL COLLAPSE, THEN SOCIAL COLLAPSE. I FIND IT EXTREMELY ACCURATE IN CONSIDERATION OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS BEEN PREDICTED BY PROPHETS OF GOD - ESPECIALLY HOW THE U.S. IS DIVIDED INTO SEVERAL DISTINCT PARTS WITH THEIR VARIOUS LOYALTIES:

RUSSIAN ANALYST PREDICTS DECLINE AND BREAKUP OF USA
Tue Nov 25 2008 09:04:22 ET

A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily IZVESTIA published on Monday: "The dollar is not secured by anything. The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse."

The paper said Panarin's dire predictions for the U.S. economy, initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more credence by this year's events.

When asked when the U.S. economy would collapse, Panarin said: "It is already collapsing. Due to the financial crisis, three of the largest and oldest five banks on Wall Street have already ceased to exist, and two are barely surviving. Their losses are the biggest in history. Now what we will see is a change in the regulatory system on a global financial scale: America will no longer be the world's financial regulator."

When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he said: "Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in Eurasia."

Asked why he expected the U.S. to break up into separate parts, he said: "A whole range of reasons. Firstly, the financial problems in the U.S. will get worse. Millions of citizens there have lost their savings. Prices and unemployment are on the rise. General Motors and Ford are on the verge of collapse, and this means that whole cities will be left without work. Governors are already insistently demanding money from the federal center. Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are no miracles."

He also cited the "vulnerable political setup", "lack of unified national laws", and "divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions."

He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.

He even suggested that "we could claim Alaska - it was only granted on lease, after all." Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and has authored several books on information warfare.

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