Sunday, August 2, 2009


This guy is pretty interesting and had quite a following.

He claims to have predicted some bad famines in Utah (U.S.??) leading up to the bad juju right before the crap hits the fan.

Just another viewpoint. As always, I take it with a grain of salt and see how it all pans out....


Since he never kept a diary or personal record of any kind, many of the visions and spiritual experiences of Koyle can no longer be accounted for. However, the one experience upon which all sources agree is the vision received in 1894 wherein the mine was revealed to him. On this subject, the following statement was made by Carter E. Grant in a letter to Apostle James E. Talmage on September 30, 1931:
"I heard this story repeated by Brother Koyle in 1911, 1912, 1913, 1914, and 1915, and many times since. One peculiar thing about Brother Koyle, he never crosses himself, repeating his dream with the same exactness as he did in the beginning. One would think he would change it or add to it, but he never has."
The messenger told him the purpose of the mine would be to bring relief to the Lord's faithful people at a time when great tribulation and distress would be in the land. The mine was to be called the "Relief Mine." He told him of a period of four years of famine and explained that the first two years the Saints would be able to get by, but the third and fourth years they would have nothing to eat unless it was prepared and stored up against that time. Then there would be two more years which would be a recovery period. The messenger explained that there would be winters of heavy snow and big snow drifts after which there would be a mild open winter, but whether that winter was to follow immediately or whether some other winters would be in between, he never explained.
However, immediately following the mild open winter, there would be a hot, dry summer. The crops would come up in the spring, and there would be considerable moisture, and the crops would be glorious (that is the word Bishop used to use.) He saw the wheat would grow up and head out beautifully, and the irrigated wheat would mature, but the dry land wheat would not have enough moisture to fill out. By harvest time the heads would curl over in a sort of crescent shape. This was shown to him in another dream wherein he saw he went into the wheat fields when they were binding the grain which looked like it would be a splendid crop. He picked up a bundle of wheat by the binding twine, and the head's end of the bundle came up with the butt end of the bundle hanging down because it was heavier. Realizing that the head end should have gone down if there had been good wheat in it, he examined the heads of wheat by crushing them in his hands to bring out the kernels. He found that the wheat was terribly shrunken and not fit for food. He was told by the messenger that this condition would bring about a shortage of food during the first year of harvest.
The second year he was shown would be the same only much less food raised. Still, the irrigated grain would be good. He was told we would need to store up the first and second years grain to supply food for the third and fourth years. The third year the shortage would be so great that there would hardly be anything raised for food. The fourth year they would not be able to raise anything for food.
He was shown in another dream that during the fourth year there would be plenty of money to buy food and he with others went up and down throughout the country seeking to buy food and they could not buy any. Any people who had a little food would not sell it at any price. During this time of famine there would be no rain to do any good. He saw the clouds would come up, and it would look like it was going to rain, but a wind would come up and blow the clouds away; and if there was any rain at all, it was just a few drops which were not sufficient to do any good.
The purpose of the mine was to build store bins and store up wheat and other foods like Joseph of old who was sold into Egypt. He saw the rains would come in the fifth year, and they would be forced to spare a little wheat for seed but would be sorely pressed to raise enough to eat during the fifth year and save enough for seed for the sixth year. The rains continued to come, the crops grew, and at the harvest time of the sixth year they would have enough food to carry on. He was told by the messenger that there would be a great crash in the land before the period of famine began. This crash would be brought about by prices going up, which condition was illustrated to him as being like a person on high stilts. When prices became extremely high, something happened in the land like knocking the stilts from under the person and down came everything. Businesses closed down, labor was thrown out of work, people were hungry, and great tribulations were in the land. He saw that the best place to live and to work would be at the mine. Those who worked there would be the best off. He was told by the messenger that the Church program to care for the poor would all be used up during the first and second years of famine, that the mine would bring relief during the third year and would carry on the relief from the third year on.
Koyle gave progress reports of things that would happen inside of the mine and about other things. He gave probably one of these reports each month or so at the thursday night meetings. This is what kept up a great amount of interest for the miners to look forward to.
Bishop Koyle's Prophecies and revelations are abundant with details of the famines of the last days. Koyle also described this food shortage that had been shown to him in dreams. Grain would grow up as though it would produce a fine crop--but something caused it to shrivel up and become a valueless harvest. Famine would occur all over the world--not only because of crop failures, but because of the troubles and chaos caused by the shutdown of manufacturing and transportation.
At that early date he also said words like these: "By the time we get our ore, the mining districts will be almost at a standstill. These automobiles will get larger and larger, until some of them will resemble street cars, filled with people. Then, too, I saw the farms all though the country all being mortgaged, and as a relief to the condition, the people were coming to borrow money at a low rate of interest from the Koyle Mining Company. I also saw a large bank belonging to our company standing on a certain corner in Spanish Fork. (I have since been shown the corner.) Then I saw the hard times beginning to tell upon the treasury of the Church, being more depleted than in many years. Then, right in the very midst of all these happenings, with things at their darkest, we began shipping ore, giving a decided relief to the situation." ("Grant/Talmage Statement", Sept. 9, 1931, p. 10)
In this section we'll review the many things he foretold to the stockholders.
The Bishop saw in about 1914 that in time the horses would be left home. The new king of carriages that people would use would have two eyes so they could see at night time. He also saw these new vehicles would get larger and larger until they would become as large as box cars. They would travel through the country at night at a very great speed. Then it would be most unsafe to cross the street day or night.
About 1910 Koyle told a group that he would buy the dinners for the group if there was not an electric power plant on the Spanish Fork River within a given time. Koyle seemed to always be a winner. In 1911 Koyle told another group he would buy their dinners if there was not a powder plant built on the bench south of Mapleton, Utah. It so turned out that Koyle was right again.
Koyle foresaw the Republican victory of 1928 but stated that the man riding the donkey would win in 1932 and continue to win, establishing an unprecedented record of successive victories at the pools. During this time the elephant would become sick and unable to regain its feet. One attempt after another would be made until eventually, after many years, the elephant would rise to its feet and remain on them for a number of years, but would then go down and the country with it. There would then follow an unprecedented period of war, confusion, turmoil, and national disaster.
Bishop Koyle saw and told this in the early twenties that they would cut down the size of the greenbacks. You'll remember we used to have greenbacks about one and one-half times the size of what they are today. The miner that he told this to kept one of the $5.00 bills, which is redeemable in gold.
Bishop Koyle told the miners that worked for him in 1920 that the government would call in all the gold in not many years. Do you remember this happened in 1933?
About 1930 it was made known to the Bishop that he would have a partner in the Mine. It happened the State of Utah traded a section of land down in the southern part of Utah to the Government for Section 16 which just happened to be 640 acres right over the richest part of the nine rooms. This will give Utah 12-1/2 per cent of all the gold taken out of that area without them working at all for it. In addition, they have been receiving $320 per year ever since then.
Koyle said that probably in the thirties the mine would come in after the streetcar tracks were taken up in Salt Lake City. They took them up in the year 1945, as near as I remember.
One Thursday night, just a few days before Christmas in 1943, eight men came down to the mine earlier than usual so they could visit with the Bishop before the meeting began. When time for the meeting arrived, the Bishop said, "We might as well get started--this is all that will be here." The others looked out the window and saw a string of car lights heading up towards the mine. They called this to the Bishop's attention, but he still maintained that there would be no more arrive for the meeting. The meeting commenced, and no one else came. Afterward, they bid goodbye to the Bishop and started down the hill. They saw the reason that no one came to the meeting--the wind had blown big snow drifts over the road. A snow plow was just clearing the road, but the cars had previously turned back, since it would have been too late to get to the meeting.
Once the Bishop pointed to the top of the mountains and said that the day would come when a light would be seen up there. A few years after the Bishop's death, the telephone company came to the officials of the mine for permission to share the use of their dugway so that a tower could be placed atop the mountain for a coast to coast dial system. When the tower was completed, a large beacon light was placed on top which could be seen from anywhere in the valley.
The Bishop once prophesied that there would be a drought come to the intermountain region. Then one day in May of 1938, after many continuous days of raining, the miners were kidding the Bishop not to worry about a famine or drought, but rather consider building an ark if the rains continued any longer. The Bishop listened to their joking and then replied that the rains would stop the next day and the drought would begin. Sure enough, the rains stopped on May the 18th and no moisture came until October. And, for the next few years the drought continued.
Another of these outstanding dreams with a very narrow margin of timing was one that Bishop Koyle had back in 1908 or 1909, when he foretold World War I, and how the United States would be involved. He told how it would strike home to us because the 145th Field Artillery of Utah boys would be called to the colors. However, that should not concern anyone very much because they would never see any action on the front lines.
In addition to World War I, he had warned us of a greater war to come, and now World War II was here and I was involuntarily made one of Uncle Sam's soldiers. I remember during the late summer of 1942, I was home on furlough, and, of course, attended one of the weekly meetings at the Dream Mine. Bishop Koyle was addressing a group of his stockholders, and stated that he had just returned from a visit to his dentist, Dr. Alfred Brooksby in Fredonia, Arizona. He said that while there he had received a remarkable dream in which he was shown that World War II, would be over and won in three years from August 27, 1942. This was a great comfort to me, for I was in the army and was glad to know that this war would not mark the end of the world by any means, so I watched carefully to see if it would come true.
Fred Finch, a carpenter, was working at nearby Camp Kearns. Being very much devoted to the Dream Mine, he was also watching this prophecy carefully during the summer of 1945. A big boiler was being installed in one of the buildings at Camp Kearns, and he wrote on it with a piece of chalk, "Aug. 27th, 1945." His co-workers asked him what it meant, and he said, "It means that the war will be over and won by that date." Now, of course, no one believed him nor the source of information that he gave. It all appeared so very ridiculous and impossible at that time that everyone laughed at him.
Steve Wood, an insurance man, was also watching this prophecy, for he believed it implicitly since he had seen so many of Bishop Koyle's other prophecies come true. He told it to his friend, Les Goates, the Deseret News sport columnist, who also laughed at it and offered to take Steve and his wife to dinner if it came true, provided Steve would do the same for him and his wife if it did not come true. Les Goates knew he had a sure thing here and featured the bet in his column, since there were no sport events to write about for the duration of the war.
This prediction received wide circulation among the stockholders and their friends, and many Utah mothers were greatly comforted by it when their sons went to war. Some bore testimony in fast meetings of the safety of their boys based upon this prediction. Nevertheless, one morning large headlines appeared in the Salt Lake newspapers that the 145th Field Artillery had orders to move up to the front lines and would see action that very day.
When Fred Squires, one of his more active stockholders, read it he was so upset and disturbed about it that he took his newspaper and got into his car and proceeded at once to Spanish Fork to confront Bishop Koyle with this news and see what he had to say for himself now.
He found the Bishop doing his fall plowing, and stomped across the field toward him waving the newspaper in his hand and shouting that John H. Koyle was a false prophet. When fully appraised of the situation, Bishop Koyle looked him straight in the eye and unhesitatingly declared: "Fred, that newspaper is a lie! They will not see action on the front!" Then he said what was still harder for Fred Squires to believe: "The war will be over before they get there!"
And so it was. That newspaper was an early morning edition with the date line of November 11, 1918. They did not know it at the moment, but the Armistice which had caused a last minute cancellation of the 145th's orders, had just hit the news wires, and by the time Fred Squires was making his return trip to Salt Lake City, wild and excited celebrating was in progress all along the way.
Well, as you all know, the whole war picture changed over night when the Atom Bomb was dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki August 6th and 7th, which resulted in an armistice with Japan on August 14th, 1945. Then the formal surrender took place on the Battleship Missouri, on September 3rd, 1945, so that August 27th, 1945, was well centered in that group of dates, and once again Bishop John H. Koyle was a vindicated prophet.
However, the General Authorities still refused an audience to Bishop Koyle. How strange that the Bishop tried all his life to personally speak with the Church Authorities, but with every attempt they flatly refused.
The Bishop was amused at how some of the new houses would look at this time. He said that they seemed to be patterned after chicken coops. They would have almost flat roofs and a big window in front, and cost so much that the people who lived in them would be worried as to how they could ever pay for them. When we first heard this it seemed ridiculous that people would ever build houses like that. Shortly after World War II, new housing developments began to boom around the country building home exactly this way. This style is still current and so are the heavy mortgages.
Bishop Koyle occasionally spoke of a long shut down, and also a short shut down that the mine must experience before final vindication. Many of us thought that the long shut down must be the one in the past from 1914 to 1920; but history was to prove that it was yet in the future. He saw that the miners would leave the hill, even he would not be there. The stockholders would be at bitter logger-heads with each other, and some who had been the best of friends, now would be enemies. Two of the directors would turn their backs on the mine, while the others would not be of much use to it. Some of the stock would change hands for as little as ten cents a share, while others would even regard it as of no value at all. In fact, it would appear as though this whole project was at long last finished and dead, once and for all. For that matter, mining elsewhere in Utah would be dead or in a very dilapidated condition. He would point to the Tintic-Eureka district while saying this, indicating there would be little or no activity.
The final struggle toward the end was further emphasized in another dream in which he saw heavy, dark, black clouds gather over the valley and weigh depressingly heavy over the mine until there appeared to be no hope for the mine at all. Everything seemed to be crushed out of existence and the whole thing had come to an end. The Dream Mine really appeared to be finished and ended.
While compiling information for the first edition of this book, Ogden Kruat noticed a prophecy attributed to Bishop Koyle that was recorded by Norman Pierce. Since Pierce was no longer alive for confirmation and since he personally had never heard Bishop Koyle give such a prophecy, he decided not to include it in his book. Furthermore, he thought it sounded too fantastic and impossible to ever be fulfilled.
Koyle told people, "It looks like it won't be long now before we'll be having some of the big troubles we've been expecting. I saw in a dream the other night that muddy water would flow in the streets like rivers in almost every community from one end of the state
to the other. When it comes, it's going to cause a lot of trouble for a lot of people around here. It will be the beginning of really big troubles."
In the spring of about 1951 we had a real river of about three feet deep running west on 13th South. The streetcars went across on a bridge that was elevated at least four feet. Both sides of the street were sandbagged to a height of about four feet. I saw a man in about an 18-foot boat going west from State Street.
Years later, in 1983, rains began to pour over the state of Utah. They continued until water literally ran down the streets of cities from one end of the state to the other. Some small towns were literally abandoned until the water receded. Over half of the counties asked for Federal Emergency Assistance. A river had overflowed it's banks and was running down Main Street contained by sandbags and people fishing in it in down town Salt Lake City.
The Agriculture and Health Committee was told that Utah's farms and ranches have sustained an estimated $57.7 million loss. (S.L. Tribune, "Utah Floods", p. 62)
There were $63 million dollars in road damages in the State. The total estimate for damages from the rains and too rapidly melting snow came to over $200 million dollars.
One day back in the twenties, he called Otto Lohmoelder, one of the miners, aside and told him: "Otto, towards the end there's going to be a group of men take over this mine, and try to bring it in before it is time for it to come in. But they will not have the proper guidance and inspiration, and they will fail." He also said that a great amount of credit was due them for keeping up all the assessment work for so many years.
He spoke of a short shut down at the very end, following which a couple of old timers, properly inspired, would come up and put in just a round or two of holes and strike the rich ore. Some believed that the "two old timers" referred to the Nephites themselves, while others thought that one of them might be Fred Fink (or Finch) because back in the twenties when Bishop Koyle was first introduced to him, he immediately recognized Fred Fink from a dream he had and declared, "That is the man I saw working on the hill when the mine turned out." Fred Fink has been very faithful and devoted to the mine, and it is very doubtful that any other man has given more of himself and his time and labor to this cause save John Koyle himself.
Bishop Koyle often said that the first shipment of ore out of this tunnel would return every dollar invested. (At this writing that shipment would have to have a value of close to a million dollars!) When pressed to tell how much the first shipment would run, he declared that it would be around $12,000 a ton on the low grade, while the high grade that would come a little later, would be worth much more,--almost beyond belief. The ore would come just in the nick-of-time to provide very much needed relief. In fact, there would be some who said that it had come in too late to do any good, but such would not be the case, for the stockholders would rally together and things would move swiftly on every side to accomplish all that was supposed to be accomplished. But nevertheless, there would be many who would wish that we could turn back the clock of time, even without the Dream Mine, if only these calamities could be averted, while others would look upon the depression of the thirties, by comparison, as "the good old days of the thirties."
At a thursday night meeting the bishop told stockholders that a big employer in Salt Lake City, Kennecott Copper and a new modern steel plant built on the edge of the Utah Lake as a result of the war efforts in WW II, Geneva Steel, would both close down toward the end times. This happened about 40 years later. First Kennecott shut down it's Bingham Canyon operation in Utah and then Geneva Steel followed suit soon after. They both reopened their doors within a couple of years with Geneva reopening with new owners. Geneva closed once again due to cheap foreign steel imports and presently (2004), Kennecott is wondering they will be around in the next few years.
Koyle also said that when the mine came in, all the mines in Tintic District in Utah would be at a stand still. This is pretty much the case today.
Bishop Koyle said that Wall Street would have a major drop sometime before the total failure and that the Government would step in to help save it. In October 1988 (Black Monday) the stock market came to within two hours of total catastrophe and the federal government stepped in to prevent it from crashing. Then again on 11 September 2001 when the twin towers of the Trade Center came crashing down, the markets took a big tumble when they reopened for business. On his radio talk show, G. Gordon Liddy reported that a friend of his working for Merrill Lynch, a stock brokerage firm, called to tell him that the government was feeding funds into the market.
Koyle said also the Church, the State, and the Nation, in rapid succession would be set in order and brought up a standin' like a wild colt to the snubbing post.
Associated with this time of distress and one of the principal things that would compound it beyond endurance for many, was a four year drouth, attended by great crop failures and famine, which would require from two to three years for recovery, depending upon where one lived. There would be seven distressful years filled and compounded with drouth, plague, famine, warfare, and other divine judgments that would sweep the wicked from off the face of the earth in preparation of the Lord's second coming. He had a favorite expression to characterize these events when he would say: "A setting-in-order will take place, and the Church, the State and the Nation will be brought up a standin' to judgment like a wild colt to a snubin' post." Yes, there would be a setting-in-order develop right along the line to prepare the whole earth for the coming of Christ. It was like going down into a deep valley that would take 3 1/2 years to go down into, and another 3 1/2 years to climb out again into a new and wonderful world.
He always described this series of drouth years and crop shortages as follows: The first year would not be felt very much; but the second year would be worse with less crops; and the third year would also produce very poor crops; and in the fourth year there would be no crops at all.
In the fourth year he saw the grain come up around here like it was going to make into a bumper crop, and then something made it all wither and die like a blight or a terrific heat had taken it, leaving the people without harvest and in famine. And there was famine all over the country, not only because of these crop shortages, but because of the great troubles that had come causing manufacturing and transportation to cease. In fact, he saw that, although we had plenty of gold available, try as we would everywhere, we could buy no wheat with it.
Further, that in the fifth year, there would be plenty of moisture again but there would still be a shortage of food in the land because of the lack of seed to plant, --most of the seed having been eaten for food. And that only after the harvest of the sixth year, and in some places not until after the harvest of the seventh year, would crop production revert to abundance.
Some have quoted Bishop Koyle as describing the progress of the drouth years about as follows: The first year,--about a seventyfive percent crop; the second year,--about a fifty percent crop; the third year,--about a twentyfive percent crop; the fourth year, no crops at all.
He pointed out that we should secure our wheat from the first and second years, because that raised in the third year would not be fit for human consumption because of its very poor quality; and in the fourth year there was no grain to be purchased at any price.
When these years arrived, he said, there would be very little doubt as to their being the right years, for RELIEF would be the biggest and most important issue of the day. As time went on, we would be reluctant to listen to the news, because it would all be so awful distressing and vexing that we would prefer not to hear about it.
When it seemed as if all was lost and the Dream Mine had come to complete failure, he looked from the mine, while standing on Knob Hill, over to the northwest toward the Point-of-the-Mountain and beheld a small rift in the dark clouds revealing a little spot of blue about the size of a man's hand. As he watched it, this rift suddenly expanded, and with a majestic sweep, the heavens were cleared of the dark, black, oppressive clouds, and the mine and its surroundings were restored to the brilliant sunshine of a fine, glorious day, with all oppressiveness having vanished away.
He also saw the Mine would come in after a hard winter followed by a water-logged spring, then a dry hot summer, and when the wheat was in the boot, the Bishop came out of the tunnel with the first gold in his hands.
When it was time for the mine to turn out, he said, there was a light complexioned man with white hair who would come from easr of the mine with a big check to finance the first shipment of ore. He seemed to be identified with "the little spot of blue in the dark clouds over by the Point of the Mountain." In one or two rounds of holes they would strike the rich gold ore in the fourth finger of the five fingers in the right-hand drift. The stockholders would rally with him and bring about many wonderful changes around the mine. This man would come with a new process that would entirely revolutionize the entire mining industry. Could this man be Al Sinclair AKA as the translated Alma the Younger who came to the mine in the 1950's? the Bishop along with Al Sinclair said that the messengers would return before the mine opened in their true identity. Al had a lot of interest in new inventions and mining. Who would know best how things should be done when the mine is to be opened?
War would be brought to our coast line, but we would not be invaded at this time. However, a Russian invasion of the U.S. and Canada would come later.
One time in about 1946 an attorney who was quite interested in the Mine, and sometimes he attended the thursday night meetings, said to the Bishop, "How are you going to stop the Government from taking about 94% of the gold away from you?" The Bishop said, "Turney, there ain't goin' to be no Government when the Mine comes in!"
Bishop Koyle said that on the first shipment of gold that there would be a small piece in the paper near the mining page and few people would see it. It would be about one inch long in the paper. At this same date and on this same paper there would be four-inch headlines. We were never told what those headlines would be about. Also, when the second shipment of gold was made, there would be a jam at the mountain and hundreds of people would never get up there to be in the midst of it. I understood this jam would reach for several miles.
Koyle saw that the US President would die in office just a while after the mine came in. He saw them look up and down the country everywhere to try to find a man to take his place and they would not be able to find one and the nation wandered in chaos. That's how bad it will get.
He was shown that a Republican Administration would made great efforts to save the economy. He also said prices would go higher and higher and all at once something happened and in one night the props would be knocked out from under everything and down would come everything. This condition of rising prices would be brought about by strikes.
When the props give away there will suddenly be an overnight price and wage crash or deflation that seemed to occur the same time as the death of the republican president. The disaster which followed rated 4-inch headlines in newspapers throughout the country.
According to Velma Kunz who was the wife of a miner that lived on the hill near the mine, the bishop would many times get the miners off to work and then come on down the hill. He would many times stop in and talk to Velma. One day she asked when the economic crash would occur. He was sitting at the time with his arms across his chest and then he dropped his head down. She thought he had gone to sleep. After a period of time he opened his eyes and looked up at her and told her this. The overnite crash would occur on a holiday weekend where the holiday falls on a monday.
Koyle was shown that our entire wage and price structure had risen higher and higher so that it was like it was up on high stilts, and then suddenly it was as if someone over-night had kicked the stilts out from under it, and the whole thing came down with a crash to about 20 cents on the dollar. Property would only be worth l/5 of its form er value, but his mortgage and other fixed debts would remain the same.
The US would call it's military home from all over the world just to keep the greenbacks home and to keep the peace.
Bishop saw that after the Mine came in, that all the churches and schools would be closed down for a while. He saw this in about 1930.
Additionally Koyle said, not long after the mine came in, the U.S. money would become totally worthless.
A small notice would appear in the paper about the mine shipping it's first shipment of ore to be processed but the biggest economic disaster in the world would be the news of the day and would affect everyone.
The mine would pay it's first dividends or relief from the mine in November or December. Koyle said he had a dream that after the mine came in, many were sitting around and giving praise to God for this happy Christmas. In time we would learn to live without money under the Law of Consecration.
The Bishop said probably in the thirties that when the Mine comes in, we will have a queer lot of Dream Miners that want to do many things. One would buy a large automobile and tour many countries in the world; many would buy large ranches and stock them well with cattle; and Parley here would charter a ship and go down into Central America and hire a lot of men and uncover one of those ancient temples, and bring his findings back and give them to the BYU.
Well now, Bishop Koyle will tell you the most important thing for you to do. You should have your houses filled with a large amount of food, and go inside and cut off your radio, TV, your telephone, and your daily papers. You will not want to know what is going on in the outside world at all. I saw that two out of every three people on the earth would lose their lives from starving, or from being killed on account of the judgments of God that would be in full swing. I saw that I could walk great distances right here in Utah, by stepping from one man's dead body to the other. After you get inside your houses, you will be in there for quite some time. To me, my own opinion would be we would be there for the third and fourth years of famine, and probably another one because there was such a shortage of seeds to plant that there was not an abundance until the sixth year. I have been wrong before, and the best thing to do is to pray to Him for advice.
Bishop Koyle said that right after the Mine came in, there would be two men from the east, and they would bring suitcases filled with gold, and stack it on the dining room table in great stacks, and offer it all to the Bishop for his Mine. The Bishop only smiled and said, "No."
The Bishop said that if people could travel very far, this being the richest gold mine in the entire world anywhere, there would be many whores, gamblers, drunkards, confidence men, and what have you. All of them would be trying to make a stake for themselves. God will not permit this on His works.
$6,000 PER SHARE
Bishop said this stock would go to a high of $6,000 per share, and he saw that people would go to court for one-half of one share.
The bishop made the comment many times at the thursday night meetings that the day would come when a silver dollar would buy an acre of land.
The purpose of this great wealth was that it must be reserved for building the nucleus for the political Kingdom of God. It would provide an honest money of gold and silver the would make possible the rapid construction of cities of refuge and stock them with food supplies and equip them with essential industries, so that these cities could be a refuge for righteous populations which would be segregated out in fulfillment of the parable of the wheat and the tares, thereby bringing to pass "an entire separation of the righteous from the wicked," as stated in D&C,63:54, and also in Section 86. This gold would also serve a wonderful purpose in beautifying the New Jerusalem and the Great Temple to be built there for the Lord's coming. A City to be inhabited by Nephites, Lamanites, the Ten Lost Tribes, and the repentant LDS Gentiles then sifted out.
As early as 1911, his prediction about the economic decline and collapse was recorded by Carter Grant. At that time he told about how he saw the Dream Mine establish a bank on a certain corner in Spanish Fork and later on he spoke of another one at the mine about 200 feet or so to the northwest of the north end of the concrete retaining wall, which was built many years ago, and it is below the place where the grain bins will be built. The other banks seemed to be useless and, although filled with money, they would lend hardly any of it for fear that it could not be paid back. And when they did lend any of it they were after high interest rates. Unemployment was widespread, and many people were losing their farms and homes because most of them would be mortgaged at this time. The other banks, he said, would arise against our bank, demanding that we cease letting money out at four percent with little or no security. But since we had plenty of gold back of us from this mine, there was nothing they could do about it. This crash would cause every bank in the country to eventually fail except those established by the Relief Mine which would have enough gold back of it to survive. Gold would become very powerful as a medium of exchange. He said that here in Utah we would return to gold and silver coinage, and that our local economy would hold up about two years longer than the rest of the nation.
This bank, soon after the Mine comes in, will have its vaults filled with gold, and when the company loans money to poor people at from 0% to as high as 4%, according to whether they were well to do or poor. He saw groups of people coming to this bank with long; sad faces, their pleas for help having gone unheeded by the other banks; but they left with happy faces because here they had found relief, and their homes and farms were saved from foreclosure.
Gold would increase in value to hundreds of dollars an ounce or more at this time, and we would be doing a big business with the Denver Mint. At first we took our gold and silver to Denver for coinage, but soon that was no longer safe, so we had to establish a mint at the mine and confine our activities to these valleys. He said that people blessed this company for what we were doing, because their burden of distress was so great that nowhere could they find relief except here. Yes, "The Relief Mine" would be its rightful name then, and relief very important.
Carter Grant recorded some of his conversations with Bishop Koyle on these important matters:
Wednesday, March 4, 1931:
Last night Brothers William A. Jones, Clyde Hood, Philip Tadje, Richard Sonntag, and I went to Brother Koyle's, arriving at 8:00 p.m. After asking each one of us about the hard times, getting what we knew, Brother Koyle opened declaring that they would grow worse and worse each week; that even the Church would become so hard pressed that the cry of the needy could not be satisfied.
Also he said, "We will have a mild open winter after the mine comes in, which will permit us to pour concrete all winter long to build the grain bins He spoke of a fall following the dry, hot summer that would be more like spring when the mine turned out, and it would be followed by a very mild, open winter which would permit the uninterrupted construction of a series of large grain bins, or elvators which would hold a million bushels of wheat. These would be built high on the hill near the mine and get them filled up against this time of great distress and famine. These would hold one million bushels of grain. This we would do, he said, barely in the nick-of-time before it would be too late when no more food supplies could be purchased at any price. This would keep many, many thousands of people from starving during the time of famine. At the very same time, he saw that the 315,000 [bushel] grain elevator built at Welfare Square in Salt Lake City would be entirely empty right at the time it would be most needed.
March 14, 1931:
Now as to storing wheat! Since this subject has been upon Brother Koyle's mind for some time, he stated to us that on Friday, March 13th, while coming out the tunnel, inspiration came to him like a voice speaking, telling him to build double cement bins on the side hill near the powder magazine, one below the other, so that he could let the grain from the first bin run down into the next and then down into the third and fourth. These long cement tanks or bins were to begin at the upper road and stretch down the hill, so that with the gates open between the bins, grain that was dropped into the top one would easily find its way down the incline to the lowest level. * * * Then too, this plan, says Bishop Koyle, "will put the grain upon our property where no one can molest it, where we can make distribution as we see fit. All eyes are to look toward us for relief."
(Journal of Carter Grant)
He urged us to look forward to the fifth year, when a great change would take place in the earth and it would be much different so that "the former rains and the latter rains would return moderately," and the earth would no longer be a thirsty land, but would yield richly from its seed. It would only be because of a shortage of seed that we must still eat sparingly.
He also saw that we would buy our wheat at 50 to 60 cents per bushel, and that it would be bought out of the first and second years of crops in those famine years. He looked up and down the state everywhere on the third year of famine, and he could not buy a bushel of wheat for a bushel of gold.
We learned through the Bishop we would have nine months to build grain bins and store food, and that would be the longest that money would be good until transportation fails.
Here in Utah, big industries would be shut down as well as government related industries and unemployment would be widespread.
John H. Koyle was gifted with dreams not directly related to the mine. For example, he saw that during the time of great tribulation there would be a massive earthquake out in the Pacific Ocean that would bring giant tidal waves along our Pacific Coast. This would in turn bring destructive quakes along the San Andreas Fault and wreck great destruction in San Francisco and Oakland. If inspired, prophetic warnings were heeded in time, many of our people would escape these disasters.
The Bishop said we would have four years of famine here in Utah due to a 4-year drouth and increasing crop failures. The last two years of this would result in major famine, causing many to die of hunger and plague. OVerall, there would be seven years of famine in the world. The fifth year here would be ever so scarce because of a shortage of seeds to plant. The sixth year the rains came and there would be an abundance from then on. One third of the people is all that would enjoy it as the rest would be dead.
The time would come when one could not buy a bushel of wheat for a bushel of gold, but during those first two years of the drouth, wheat could be purchased for as little as 50 and 60 cents a bushel; and thus from our gold and silver we would be able to get enough to survive the famine here in these valleys.
The nation was in a sad state of famine, mobocracy and chaos exactly as seen and prophecied by the Prophet Joseph Smith. Entire states would be depopulated, with not enough living to bury the dead. This in turn would cause a great influx of tens of thousands refugees, consisting mostly of women and children, looking for food and safety until there were more people living in tents than in houses in the valleys of Utah. The Bishop also said that two out of every three would die or be killed when the judgments of God came, and this would be true all around the entire world.
We would have our gold and be able to buy our food and grain supplies barely in the nick-of-time he said, because in a short time the situation would grow so bad that all of the automobiles and trains would stop running, and manufacturing would cease because of a complete breakdown in our economy. They would have to put the horseless carriage back in the barn and get the horse out, if they still had a horse. (He made this prediction so far back that the terms "Automobile" and "garage" were not yet in popular usage.)
Back in the early part of the century, when the automobile was still a novelty, he would tell his listeners that these vehicles would be so numerous before long, that almost everybody would have one and they would get to be as big as boxcars, and be filled with people going at great speeds up and down the highways, and they would drive thru the night with brilliant lights. Soon they would be lined up so thick along the curb on business streets, that it would be difficult for one to get from the street into the stores and back again. Of course, no one in the early part of the century believed him.
About this time, he said, transportation would stop all over the country, and manufacturing would cease, and the people would have to return to their horses, if they had any, or go on foot. Then we could no longer buy any wheat because there was no way to get to where the big supplies were located, nor could it be brought to us. And those who did have any wheat on hand would not sell it for a bushel of gold. Then the really big troubles began with famine, warfare, plagues and judgments, and we would have to make White City and the Dream Mine into a fortress to protect ourselves from ravaging mobs. In many places, he said, the dead would outnumber the living, while in others there would not even be enough living to bury the dead. We would have to build a self-sufficient economy of our own with oil wells and industries to take care of our own needs. This, indeed, would be a time when we would have to live close to the Lord and depend upon Him for both temporal and spiritual salvation. We would learn the meaning of repentance.
The Bishop explained that a beautiful city would grow at the base of the mountain after the mine came in. Nearly all of the people of the city would be stockholders, or at least believe in the mission of the mine. So many of the buildings would be painted white, that it would be called "White City".
When ogden Kraut went to work at the mine, he met an elderly gentleman named Salsbury, who had been a barber in California before being employed at the mine. He told me that while they were living in California, he came home one day after work and lay down on the living room couch to rest. His wife asked him if he would like to go with her to the store, but he declined by saying he would rather just rest for awhile. After she left, he was looking over towards the wall when suddenly it began to vanish, but a vision of a beautiful valley came into view. He saw mountains in the background and a large lake nearby. He was high in the air looking down, and there below him was a beautiful city in which almost every building was painted white. He looked upon the scene with awe and wonderment, when suddenly the picture began to fade away and the wall came back into view. He was puzzled as to what it was, what it meant, and where the valley was. For over a year he marvelled at the beautiful scene that he had beheld in vision.
Then one day he went to Utah to visit some relatives who lived in Provo. During the visit they mentioned the Dream Mine, and how spiritual the Bishop was. They all agreed that it would be a very interesting visit to go up to the mine to see it. Salsbury went into the tunnel on their little guided tour and was utterly fascinated. Finally, on his exit from the main tunnel, he beheld mountains, the lake and the beautiful valley below--it was just as he had seen it in his vision, except there was no city below the hill. He hurried down to the house where the Bishop was and asked him what had happened to all the buildings that were supposed to be there. The Bishop told him that he had seen the city that would someday be built there.
White City would become one of many cities to spring up in the valleys of the Rocky Mountains. It would be designated along with others, as a place of refuge, a place of safety and peace from the scourges that would overtake the fallen nations of the world:
This beautiful "White City" together with a number of other beautiful cities, were to be rapidly built at this time and would serve as holy places of refuge where the more righteous of the LDS could be gathered out for safety as in the parable of the wheat and the tares, a people who would be determined to accept a Great Reformation that would be offered to them at this time, and they would dedicate themselves to living the Gospel of Jesus Christ in all its fulness with nothing left out. There would be radio and TV stations, power plants and airports arise in these ultra modern cities, and they would be stocked with food and equipped with essential industries that would enable them to survive the years of famine and distress, while the Lord purged the earth in preparation for His Millennial Reign. Here the very elect of the earth would prepare themselves to pioneer the New Age with a New Society that would replace the fallen Babylon. (The Dream Mine Story, Pierce, p. 64)
In 1934 construction began on the dugway that winds up the side of the mountain from the mill and over the saddle, linking the various tunnels together on the upper claims. This dugway would someday prove to have greater additional importance for the inhabitants of White City during a time of grave danger. Bishop Koyle saw that it would serve them as a means to places of refuge and safety where they could take needed supplies with them and find protection from an invading U.S. Army, larger than was Johnston's Army sent against the Saints about a century ago, This army would have orders to destroy them if they did not surrender and deny all affiliation with the new parliamentary nation.
While working on the Dream Mine dugway, June 17, 1934, I was standing with a pick on my shoulder talking to Bishop John H. Koyle, when the spirit of prophecy came over him, and pointing to me, he said, "Just as sure as you stand there with that pick on your shoulder, the time will come when you young men will have to defend this land against factions that will come here against us. You will defend it by the power of the Priesthood.
"They will send an army out here worse than Johnston's Army to put us down. They will offer protection to all who will deny their faith and surrender to them. And all the Gentiles will go over to them and about one third of the Mormons. Then when they are ready to completely destroy those of us who defy them, something will prevent them from doing it.
"During that time this dugway will serve as a means to refuge for many of our people with their supplies. We take cover in the safety of the tunnels until that army is destroyed together with all who surrender.
"Following this, we will also have the Russians to fight, and they will get half way across this country before they are put down." (--To the Missouri River.)
I noticed that he was somewhat shaken by this experience, and that he had to sit down to recover his strength. Later when I had discovered the Bulkley and Farnsworth visions about the U.S. Army coming against Zion, I learned that Bishop Koyle had never heard of them, and that he had no previous knowledge of the "U.S. Army worse than Johnston's coming against Utah."
When he had recovered enough to talk about it, I then pointed out that the tunnels would not offer much protection against an army. He then told me that the importance of the tunnels would be understood when this time came. Of course, I did not know in 1934, as I know today, that we would be taking refuge from the wrath of God upon the army and all who would surrender to it, when "the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat." (II Peter, 3:12) And "the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold." (See Isaiah, 30:26.)Oddly enough, a dugway that was constructed in 1934, many years after the dream was given, divided the ravine in which the main tunnel is located, into three segments; a short one, a long one, and another short one. And in like manner the history of the mine may be divided into three sections:--a relatively short one from 1894 to 1914, free from any troublesome opposition; --then a long one from 1914 to 1949, the time of Bishop Koyle's death, which was a long period of 35 years full of all manner of opposition from the Church, State, and Nation; and then the third period from his death to the present time, during which the mine has been rather dormant with little more than enough activity to justify the assessment work and keep a legal hold on the claims. The full symbolic vindication of the Green Spot is now due.
Although Bishop Koyle did not point out this similarity to my knowledge, he did feel inspired to build a secluded Green Spot in this third ravine, a sort of Holy of Holies, a Sanctum Sanctorium, where he and his close friends could retire for the more special matters of prayer and meditation. It was here that he and Will A. Jones, his secretary, and Henry Armstrong, his chief source of financial aid during the twenties, were granted another vision of the Three Nephite Apostles. And in answer to their prayer a piece of ore that had assayed worthless, but which Bishop Koyle had been shown should assay rich, now did assay rich when they took the same piece of rock back to Tintic for a second assay.
Early in his mining career, the perilous course of his life's mission was made clear to him in another of his vivid dream's. Here his path of opposition and persecution was likened to the steep ascent up this holy mountain by means of three interlocking ravines, one above the other, with small landings between. These ravines led to a choice, beautiful Green Spot on the side of the mountain where the surrounding view was most beautiful to behold.
He saw himself, Bishop Ben H. Bullock, Lars Olson, June Peirce and a fifth unidentified man start out on horses to go up there. Early in the climb it became too steep for the horses to climb in the ravine, so Lars Olson, June Peirce, and the unidentified man left the two bishops on foot to climb the ravines, while they took the horses up on an easier round-about grade or dugway.
As Bishop Koyle and Bishop Bullock climbed up into the second ravine, enemies appeared on the adjacent ridges and began to fire upon them, and to hurl stones down upon them, and try in various ways to drive them back down or destroy them. However, they found it possible to avoid the arrows and shots and to continue their climb very guardedly; but as they reached the third ravine, their opposition became so intense that they were obliged to crawl along on their stomachs and take cover behind a large boulder.
Here Bishop Bullock saw that they were near by the Green Spot--just a little piece of trail left, so he decided to make a dash for it, although Bishop Koyle warned him against the danger of it. Bullock made it without injury, however, and immediately signaled Koyle to follow, which he did, and they found themselves safe upon this beautiful Green Spot on the side of the hill.
In a few moments the three men, who had taken the round-about way with the horses, joined the two bishops on the Green Spot, and the five of them had the most glorious and wonderful meeting and time of rejoicing with heavenly beings that they had ever had on this hill.
After giving thanks for their deliverance, they all exclaimed together: "Now for success! Now for the ore!" The seal was then broken on the mine and vindication was theirs. From then on, the same people who had so opposed them, turned about and offered them aid and the full hand of fellowship, and sought their favors.
At this writing, two of the five foregoing men have passed away. Bishop Koyle, Lars Olson, Ben Bullock and June Peirce have died in that sequence. The fifth man still remains unidentified. This dream may only be symbolic of eventual success or it may be something more literal from out of the resurrection. Who knows?
Certified statement made by Ben Bullock in the presence of witnesses on February 14, 1957. Note: This appearance seems to agree with what is called the Green Spot Dream of John H. Koyle. In this dream, Koyle claims to have seen himself with Bullock and a group of friends going up Water Canyon located near his mine. The group proceeded to go around the mountain side with horses while he and Bullock continued up the canyon on foot. They were forced to take cover from enemies who began firing at them from atop the ridge. As they approached the top, they came to a clearing which they must cross in order to reach a green spot on the other side which would furnish safety to them. Koyle warned Bullock of the danger, but he nevertheless broke from cover and reached safety just ahead of Koyle. Here they were welcomed by their friends who had gone around. A suggested meaning to this dream is that after much trial and peril, both would reach the desired goal of success. Bullock or Bullock's tunnel would produce first, followed shortly thereafter by Koyle's Dream Mine.
In the thirties he spoke of Russia invading Turkey at this time to gain the Dardenelle-Bosporus Water-way. He said that at this time there would be trouble in Palestine or the Mid-East, which in turn would cause war to erupt in the Balkans as Russia mace a great military push toward Palestine and practically wiped Turkey off the European pert of the map.
He said that after the Reds took over most of Europe, Asia and Africa, they would invade the United States and Canada, and because of our chaotic condition, we could offer very little organized resistance. He said the Reds would get as far as the Missouri River or Mississippi River before they were stopped by Priesthood powers from heaven that would drive them out of the lands. The Chinese would invade the West Coast and get as far as the Sierra Nevadas before they were stopped by divine intervention and that these invasions would not reach us herein these valleys of the mountains.
The prophecies of Bishop Koyle were not given for entertainment nor curiosity; they were meant to convey a message of warning and instruction. If this generation fails to benefit from them, they justly deserve the consequences. The purpose of this chapter is to quickly review some of John Koyle's prophecies so that the readers can be more aware of their message and learn from them. The author (Ogden Kraut) worked with the Bishop at the mine for about two years and has personally seen the fulfillment of many of his prophecies and he talked with others who saw the fulfillment of nearly all the rest.
The following prophecies, though not necessarily the greatest, deserve mention and serious consideration:
1. Mobs in the Missionfield
* John Koyle was shown in dreams that mobs would harass the missionaries.
* Twice they came just as he was shown, but he avoided conflict because he had been shown what to do. One of these
prophecies concerned J. Golden Kimball, the mission president.
2. Operating the Mine
* Bishop Koyle was shown how to operate the mine, where to start, and what they would find along the way.
* The workers in the mine reported finding the very formations, colors and conditions that had been foretold, and at the
time they were to discover them.
3. Men and Money at the Mine
* The Bishop was promised that he need not worry about help at the mine, nor money to operate it. Both men and money
would always be forthcoming as the need arose.
* For 35 years, from 1914 to 1949, regardless of wars, depressions, inflations, opposition and persecution, the mine had
manpower when needed and always was able to meet operating expenses.
4. Cars like Boxcars
* When the automobile was in its beginning stages, Koyle said they would become as "big as railroad boxcars" and would
have something like "eyes" on them.
* Today we see thousands of huge cargo trucks on the highways, with headlights that look like eyes.
5. The Water Ditch
* The Bishop instructed workers to build a small ditch that would be big enough to carry the water they would find.
* The miners dug the ditch, and at the exact distance described by John Koyle, they hit the water that just filled the ditch.
6. The Mexican Temple
* When the Church announced that its next temple would be built in Mexico, the Bishop said it would not.
* A year later the Saints were driven out of Mexico, and the next temple was not built in that country.
7. World War I
* Bishop Koyle described a great world war in which the United States would become involved. Ten years later World War
I began.
* Koyle said that the 145th Artillery, most of which were Mormon boys, would not see action.
* Even though the 145th was sent to the front line, they did not engage in battle.
8. Depression of 1929
* The Bishop told his banker in Spanish Fork that in four months there would be a terrible depression.
* Four month later (October 29), the great depression began.
9. Shutdown and Reopening
* The two Nephites told John Koyle that the mine would, from necessity, be shut down, but that the powers that shut it down
would be the same powers to reopen it.
* Six months later the Bishop was told by the General Authorities of the Church that if he continued working and selling
stock at the mine, he would be excommunicated. The Bishop obeyed their injunction and closed down all operations at the
mine. After six years President Heber J. Grant sent a letter to the Bishop requesting that he open the mine to pay off a
large bill at ZCMI.
10. Joseph Fielding Smith's Sermon
* Bishop Koyle told J. Golden Kimball to go to J.F. Smith and ask him not to deliver his conference speech against the
* Unwillingly, J. Golden went to President Smith with the request, and was surprised to learn that Joseph Fielding had not
told anyone about that sermon. And so he never gave it. (This was one of J. Golden's favorite "Dream Mine" stories.)
11. End of World War II
* Shortly after Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Japanese, Bishop Koyle, said it would be exactly three years later before
the war would end.
* Three years later, in August 1945, the Japanese gave notice of their surrender.
12. The Powder Mill
* The Bishop foretold of a huge manufacturing plant that would be built near the entrance to the Springville Canyon.
* Many years later when the war began, a huge powder plant was built on this spot and remains there today.
13. Three Men Would Die
* The Bishop said that three men would die at the Dream Mine.
* After nearly 100 years of operation, exactly three men had been accidentally killed there.
14. Muddy Water
* John Koyle said muddy water would someday flow through the streets of Utah from one end of the state to the other.
* In 1983 heavy snow melt and rains caused water damages throughout Utah, in over 29 counties, from one end of the state
to the other.
15. Kennecott, Geneva, Tintic--Standstill
* The Bishop said before the mine would come in that Kennecott Copper and Geneva Steel would shut down, and the Tintic
Mining area would come almost to a standstill.
* In 1985, records show that all three occurred at the same time.
16. Wall Street Boost
* Bishop Koyle said that Wall Street would have a major drop sometime before the total failure, and at that time the
Government would step in to help save it.
* In October 1988 (Black Monday) the stock market came to within two hours of total catastrophe, and the Government
stepped in to prevent it.
17. The Beacon Light
* The Bishop described a beacon light that would someday be placed at the top of the Dream Mine mountain.
* Years after his death, the telephone company placed a transmitter and a huge beacon light on the top of the mountain--that
can be seen today.
During the summer of 1985, John Jordan published in pamphlet form an extensive list of 102 of Bishop Koyle's prophecies, as he and others understood them to be. To save space here, some of these items have been slightly condensed, omitting Jordan's personal interpretations and comments.
Bishop Koyle's Prophecies of the Last Days As recalled by others and compiled by John Jordan
1. The overall purpose of the mine was too big for the people to understand but, towards the end they would begin to
2. The Church would have a garment mill.
3. Houses would be low and would look like chicken coops.
4. What looked like sheep camps would be at almost every home.
5. Trucks looking like boxcars would be running up and down the roads.
6. The Church would build a 34-story office building in the heart of New York City. The building would not have totally paid for itself before the troubles occur and the mine comes in.
7. The United States would commence selling wheat to its greatest enemy.
8. The Republican elephant would be in power. At an election, it would sink to its knees, never to rise again.
9. Weather pattern changes would be seen to the far south-west. Drought would proceed northward year by year increasing in intensity until reaching the valleys of Utah. At that time the troubles were to start in the valleys. The drought would then head east, increasing in intensity.
10. Gold would be legal in trade.
11. A mine takeover attempt would occur internal to the leadership.
12. Before the mine comes in, all books and records must be in order. The Bishop warned that no brothers or relatives
should serve on the board at the same time.
13. On his deathbed, the Bishop called in John H. Koyle, III, and said, "I don't know what they will have done with the money. I just don't know what they have done with the money."
14. Before the mine comes in, two board members (or leaders) will leave the work. And, the rest will not be of much use to it.
15. Towards the end a group will try to bring in the mine early, but will not succeed. It is best not to attempt to bring the mine in early because if it is done, the government will tax it away, or take it over for its important strategic values.
16. Great value would not come from Old Spanish workings. Those workings would be used as a flux.
17. A group trying to bring the mine in towards the end would not have the spirit of discernment to know what to do.
18. Utah Copper will close towards the end.
19. Towards the end, Satan will try to stir up trouble for the mine in the valleys, but will not succeed. Then, he will come up on the mountain and try to stir up trouble with the people there and those in the valleys.
20. Dark clouds will hang over the mine and the valleys. People will be distrustful and will not talk to one another. Finally, when the clouds part and the sun shines, everyone will be happy and will converse with each other.
21. There will be a sifting of those worthy of the work.
22. Just before the end time, the mine will experience a short shutdown.
23. A "Gravel Train" operation will come to a halt incidental to the short shutdown. 24. Something will cause the Church welfare program to be inadequate at the end.
25. Stock will sell for 10 cents per share.
26. At the end things will happen so fast that a person will not be able to tell what is to occur first.
27. Finally, what few old stockholders are left will have to ban together to reclaim the mine.
28. The financial condition of the mine will be so bad at the end that a white-haired man from the North will have to come to furnish the money needed to outfit the processing of black ore.
29. It will be possible after all stock is sold for a person contributing to the work of bringing the mine into eventually get 2,500 shares of stock apiece.
30. The mine will not come in until eleven families can live in perfect unity and harmony.
31. The mine will not come in until 30 people meet fasting and praying for deliverance at the green spot.
32. But, when at first the mine comes in, things will have been so difficult and desperate with so much trouble between people that stockholders will wonder if it was all worth it.
33. The U.S. Government will keep propping up the economy as if it were on stilts, until finally it would suddenly collapse overnight.
34. Taxes will become oppressive and almost impossible to pay.
35. The mining industry will attempt to again become operational. but, before they get going, and the mines can do any good for the economy, the crash will come.
36. There will be a setting in order: first the mine, then the Church, then the state, then the nation. They will be brought up short like a wild colt at the snubbing post.
37. The Church is to be set in order just after an April conference.
38. The United States will experience increasing interest rates which will finally reach 20% to 24% after a period of 10% to 14%.
39. Banks will commence taking over mortgage defaults until they own many properties, helping to add to depression.
There will be plenty of money in the banks, but none to lend out.
40. There will be an overnight price crash. Wages and prices will be 20 cents on the dollar.
41. Depression will occur just before drought.
42. Depression will become so bad in the United States that service boys will be called home to keep money in the country.
43. Greenbacks will blow down the streets and will not be picked up because they will be worthless.
44. After the economic collapse, goods can be purchased for very little if a person has hard cash.
45. Gold will sell for over $100 per ounce.
46. The Church will renew persecution towards the mine. However, the mine will increase in strength and unity. Whereas, the unity and strength of the Church will decrease.
47. Troubles in the valleys for the Church will commence following the passing of the 12th president of the Church (Pres. Kimball).
48. Near the time of the end, many of the General Authorities will become quite old. Troubles will start when three leaders will die in close proximity to one another. The new replacements will not be able to hold the Church together.
49. In the end there will be a great apostasy in the Church. A rift in leadership will cause many members to leave.
Something will happen to make members congregate in and around the churches, and at various other locations to
discuss and ponder the great disturbing changes occurring. This will mark the commencement of the time of problems
for the Church, as well as the time of apostasy.
50. The Bishop told of an interview with the Prophet Joseph in Salt Lake City. The two of them were seeking out the latter general authorities. The Bishop asked Joseph what he was going to do. Joseph's answer was, "I'm going to release them, every last man-jack one of them." (A man-jack is a mule that must be castrated or cut off to remove their unreconcilable stubbornness to Godly direction.) Joseph then stated, "They had their chance and failed!"
51. At the end the church will be happy to turn the welfare program operation over to the mine to stop recriminations
against the leadership of the Church.
52. The Church will be in such a destitute financial condition that it will be happy to accept tithing from the stock-holders when the mine comes in.
53. If the stockholders do not pay tithing on their dividends, rains would come causing a landslide that would seal the mine from them.
54. The Provo steel plant will close at the time of trouble.
55. The railroad rails will be rusty when the mine comes in.
56. There will be little or no electricity. Lanterns will be back in use.
57. Streetcars and buses will no longer be running in Salt Lake City.
58. When the drought comes, one will notice dry, hot winds when the winter wheat is in the milk stage of kernel
development. The first year of drought will reduce the winter wheat crop by 25%. The second year the wheat crop will
be reduced by 50%. The third year the wheat crop will be reduced by 75%, and will not be fit for anything but cattle
feed. The mine must purchase its wheat from the second year's crop, i.e., within the year following the second year
harvest and before the third year harvest.
59. Mud will flow down the streets of Spanish Fork indicating the wickedness of the people. When groups of people start rifling the grocery stores of Spanish Fork, those stockholders living there should get out immediately and leave for the mine. Some were advised to come hiding from bush to bush along the canal bank; others elsewhere were to come the long way across the mountains to avoid pillage.
60. There should be enough unity and harmony to bring the mine in, in the second year of drought; if not, by the third year of drought. If there is not enough unity and harmony to bring it in by the third year of drought, the work will be taken away from the stockholders. Pray that the mine will come in in the second year. Otherwise, there will be extreme suffering that winter.
61. Stockholders will be tested on the low values first.
62. The rich will grow richer and the poor poorer, until many will be blue in the face with hunger when the mine comes in.
63. There will be very little gasoline. Stockholders were advised to keep their tanks filled.
64. Towards the end, stockholders will be questioned as to their part in the mine and as to what they heard was said and had seen concerning its coming in.
65. The mine will come in following an unusually hard winter. There will be heavy snows and a late wet spring. After two weeks of planting time, heavy rains will pelt the seed out of the ground. Then, hot dry winds will start to dry everything up, including the remaining plants.
66. At a stockholders' meeting at the mine, two general authorities with the police will try to lay hands on the speaker as an impostor. The general authorities will be struck dead. Stockholders rushing to their aid will be told, "Halt! Let the dead take care of the dead!"
67. The first ore will be black and will come off the top beyond No. 1 and at a grass roots level. If it is winter, it will be brought down by bobsled.
68. The news of the first shipment of ore will go unnoticed since coincidental with it will be the death of the president in office.
69. The stockholders will know by looking that the mine is being brought in properly when they see the mill dump turning black.
70. Taxes will be impossibly oppressive. But the government will collapse following the mine coming in, but before the next tax collection time. Tax is not to be taken out of the Lord's values.
71. The first dividends will be paid just before Christmas--just in time for stockholders to have a little something. It will be the fourth year of depression.
72. Foolish stockholders will buy recreational vehicles with dividend money. Wise stockholders will replace food storage before there is no more food to be had.
73. At the end the Church leaders will sit back and see what happens as the mine comes in and will not cause further trouble for stockholders. A large "snake" will come to the mine from the South.
74. Stockholders are not to hold grudges against those who have caused them trouble. Because, when the stock-holders see what happens to the persecutors, the stockholders will pray day and night for their deliverance.
75. There will be a harsh winter at the end of which the maple or oak leaves will open like a mouse's ear.
76. The harsh winter will be followed by a mild open winter.
77. A stone wall will be built along the mine side of the canal (during the mild winter).
78. The mine will become a city of refuge against roving bands.
79. Roving bands and marauders will not be a problem south of the Highline Canal.
80. The second shipment of ore, that from No. 4 finger, will be noticed when it gets into the news. People will come to the mine waving money, but there will be no stock to be sold. However, the mine will offer to feed the people.
81. Economic conditions will be so bad that people will say that the mine has come into production too late to do any good. However, that will not be the case since work will commence in numerous areas of the mine at the same time following the second batch of ore.
82. The mine will come in when the Federal Government is in disarray. Some say that the mine will come in in the late summer or fall.
83. When the mine comes in, there will be only three months to obtain needed goods from the East Coast and three more months to obtain goods from Denver (six months total). After that, trucks will not be running.
84. Foreign problems will commence.
85. The leaders of the nation will be blown out of office as if by a whirlwind. They will hide fearing for their lives.
86. When the mine comes in, mine personnel will be able to have most any Church position which they desire. Church
authorities will seek after the companionship of mine people to attend conferences with them so that the authorities
will be listened to and not rejected.
87. There will be great bitterness towards the general authorities. The leaders will have to take to the pulpits to keep people from leaving the Church.
88. The Bishop's grandson, Lynn, is to be president when the mine comes in.
89. When the mine comes in, the mountains will be covered with people looking for gold. You'll hardly be able to see the mountain for the people covering it.
90. It will be almost too late to get the grain when it is obtained.
91. The mine will also support stocking grain in Idaho.
92. A stair-step concrete grainbin will be built on the terraces provided to store wheat. Hardly will one section be
completed that it will be filled while the next section is being built.
93. The wheat to fill the bins will be bought by the mine at about 50 cents per bushel.
94. There will be a large influx of people. Tents will cover the valley. People will feel fortunate if they have a chicken coop to sleep in.
95. A white city will be built in the shape of a horseshoe around the depression.
96. Travel will be unsafe in the valley north of the mine.
97. An earthquake will open and drain the winze.
98. It will be important to purchase the coinage mint machinery being sold as surplus by the Denver mint at the end. The machinery must be brought to the mine within six months of the mine coming in. The machinery is to be set up at the mouth of Flat Canyon.
99. A clothing mill will also be established at the mouth of Flat Canyon at the end of the upper prune orchard road.
100. The mine will purchase and reopen the Provo steel plant.
101. The local militia will attempt to gain control of the mine and its people. Mine money must be used for the right
purposes or it will be taken away.
102. Some crops will again be grown the sixth year of the seven-year drought.
A statement made to a reporter of the Salt Lake city Telegram Newspaper by John Koyle:
I (Doc)found this news article interesting in as much as it was dictated by Bishop Koyle to a newspaper man, instantly recorded and then printed:

I (Koyle) was shown many wonderful changes that would take place during those days of harships, even seeing the first automobile as it came snorting down through the country. I saw these horseless carriages develop until they became as large as street cars and box cars running through the streets.

I saw mortgages increase until everyone seemed greatly hampered by debt. I also saw that at the time we got the calues on the hill, Utah Lake seemed nothing but a big pond. I saw a prolonged and terrible drouth in the country lasting for several years. I saw this depression, saw the money crash, saw the little banks going broke and the big banks filled with money; saw them stand practically worthless, refusing to lend money. The confidence of mankind seemed shattered. I saw silver lose its value and the mining industry practically at a standstill....

I saw various industries tied up until the automobiles even ceased running. Men's faces were grave and perplexed. Just as sure as Utah Lake is headed toward the condition I saw it reach, then just so sure will all the other predictions, I have made, come to pass.
(Koyle had made the comment that Utah Lake would be so low that you could wade across it on foot)

I will tell you something else that is in the future. (Koyle speaking) I saw a large banking establishment raised up in Spanish Fork by our company. I guess half the people in Spanish Fork as well as all our stockholders have heard me say this. I have given out the very corner on which it will stand.

I saw that when this bank was established people came from far and near and we were liquidating their mortgages, letting them have money at 3 or 4% or thereabouts, sending them on their way rejoicing. Isaw how happy they were toward the Relief Mine. I saw that our resources seemed unlimited, for back of us were our rich bodies of ore; and this ore, I was told, would never run out in my day or the days of my children's children.

I not only saw individuals coming for relief, but I saw us helping large business concerns, many of which seemed looking toward us for aid, thankful, indeed, when we gave them relief. I saw that there was a purpose for our getting the ore at this Relief Mine; and the doubters would soon understand, knowing something better than they do now.

I saw the devestation that would come upon the crops of the country. I saw four years of crop failures. The first one was not so very hard. I think that 1934 was the second year. Now, if you want the future, here it is: I saw the third year was almost a complete failure with prices shooting skyward on every hand. But in the fourth year the crops grew in the spring, and then they comenced to go and go and there was no harvest at all. I think that will be 1936. Then the next year because of scarcity of seed, people on every side were still in the breadlines.
(Koyle didn't know the year this would happen. He only was shown the conditions that would exist. Based on the drought conditions, the level of Utah Lake and the economic conditions, he thought the time was at hand for the mine to come in)

I have told these things in the ears of thousands of visitors to the mine. I have been telling these matters constantly for almost fourty years. So much so that 2,000 people have believed and secured stock in the Relief Mine as it is often called. College men and church men are among them, all warching and checking my various predictions, and as many statements have come true, these people have come to see our aid in a marvelous manner. I tell you it is wonderful; for our working have cost us almost a half million dollars. But our supporters will be well paid for staying with us.

When Mr. Koyle was questioned regarding how he expected to meet the food shortages he predicted, he said, "I was shown that in the fourth year of the "Great Shortage" that I went forth with plenty of money trying to buy wheat and other food, but none was to be secured. I was then shown that by storing great quantities I could give relief to the stockholders, and others as far as possible. This I shall do.

For more than two years I have had the ground all cleared, about two acres on our property, waiting to build my storehouses. I know that we shall need them in the fourth year of the crop failures, and also until we get back to normal."

As I (Koyle speaking) have repeatedly declared, everything we have accomplished and what we are now doing, were shown to me. I know that it can't be long now until our strike is made. Conditions are getting ripe. A few of our stockholders have lost heart because of the long wait, but most of them are still very confident of the outcome helping in every way possible.


  1. I like Bishop Koyle, undoubtedly he was gifted. I try to keep in mind that a lot of these prophesies are being related and passed down by others, with potential errors and personal extrapolations and speculation of the those who report in information. Some are just plain impossible to happen, such as Geneva steel reopening after the mine comes in. But who knows maybe a new mill could be rebuilt there. In any case what has me nervous is the statement on the economy: first the stock market will collapse, but not total, and then a short time latter a complete world wide economic collapse. It's easy to see the market crash of 08 precipitated by the Governments mismanagement and corruption leading up to the world wide economic collapse. We see the destabilizing effect of Greece's debt is having upon the western world. The main culprit being, uncontrollable debt to maintain the entitlement culture of western society.
    When this happens then you will see the anarchy, death, misery, and suffering as never before as prophesied by the prophets.

    I was never worried by Y2K, Elinen, or the following meteor. It is not until the land is filled revolution as stated above that celestial bodies become a threat as well as the reaction of the earth to this wickedness through the (real) big earthquakes and everything else, to precipitate the destruction of the wicked. It all follows a pattern of logic.

    1. To add to the above, I am not too worried about the economic collapse until we get a Republican president in office, and I see real drought across the country.
      I have noticed that Mills Crenshaw on KTKK is selling gold and Turtle Tuff Shelters convinced that the collapse is within a year guided by his trust his unerring trust in Pastor Lindsey Williams warnings from the elites, and Julie Rowe's NDE.
      Still, I can't help but lean more upon Koyle's prophecies than on Williams elite friends who could be setting up false starts to take advantage of the market drops to gain more power rather than to consciously attempt to collapse the world economy in which the elites would loose everything. Julie is the latest in a string of LDS NDE's that have come on the scene. I still consider them to be potentially viable, but timing has always been the mystery.

  2. From phone directory i see Lynn Koyle is old if that is the lynn Koyle he said would be in charge of the mine. Time is short or this thing is a hoax!

    Lynn M Koyle


    Richfield, UT
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Jeffrey Lynn Koyle
    Lynn M Koyle

    That's the one

    Lynn M Koyle


    Richfield, UT
    Saint George, UT
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Greg M Koyle
    Jeffrey Lynn Koyle
    Maretta Koyle

  3. I just love John Koyle, I hope his dream mine does come true, at least he was man enuff to say what he saw.

  4. I have reread this page two or three times and all I can say is that I agree with the poster above who said tat 2008 is the first failure of the stock market (then with the government using QE1 and QE2 to 'prop it up' as Koyle says)... then this summer's drought in the midwest being year 1 of the drought/famine... with the final collapse of the economy coming this fall. But if we're to follow the rest of it, that means Romney is elected (he's certainly a bigger man than the president of Koyle's time)... and then his death (assasination or heart attack? that is not clear) in office -- at the same exact moment as total anarchy & WW3.

    1. Me again... just stopped by to remind new visitors that QE3 just happened. There's no looking back now... Oh yeah, and Columbus Day (a Monday) is the first weekend in October 2012.

    2. Columbus Day is always celebrates on the second Monday of October. What day was the 4th on this year??

    3. Do you mean July 4th? It was a Wednesday. I only mention Columbus Day 2012 because 1. Its a Monday after a holiday weekend in which the holiday occurs on the Monday -- and -- 2.The crash of 2008 (IIRC) occurred over Columbus Day weekend as well.

  5. I would agree completely with your analysis. If it does not happen, as stated, I for one will be surprised. But I have been wrong before.

    I really wish others would/could wake up to this reality - or potential scenario.

  6. Where is this mine and who holds the shares?

  7. The mine is in Salem, UT. I remember driving past it while on Sunday drives with my newly-married wife at BYU and thinking - WOW!!! It kind of blows the mind - just sitting there on a hillside. Then I learned the history of it. I believe the shares are privately held - but there may be local brokers in Provo, UT that deal in specialty paper like that. Wildly eclectic stuff. I would like to own a share - just for the fun of it to have on my wall as a conversation piece. Let me know if you find a source for that stuff.

  8. I thought 2011 was the winter where the snow piled up in drifts, and 2012 was the 1st year of the drought. It was all over the news all summer long. I was really surprised Romney did not win, because we still have a Democratic President. That one puzzles me. Maybe the dates aren't yet. Maybe we've got 4 more years before a Republican president will be elected.

    1. Me, again...

      I've been thinking a lot about this and here is what I have come up with. Koyle never said exactly what order things would happen in -- its left to us to surmise. We assume that the Crash happens when the republican is in office, that the drought begins happening before the crash and that the republican is the president with the 'big ears'. But instead, I propose:

      1. The crash happened in 2008 on Oct 10, 2008 -- which is the Columbus Day holiday weekend -- on which Columbus Day is a Monday.

      2. A republican president WAS in office at this time, GW Bush.

      3. The government PROPS the economy UP for awhile before it falls

      4. The republican in office is the last republican president we will ever have (BUSH) ... Obama is here, and will likely follow another socialist dictator

      5. Something will happen to the president while he is in office (obviously not Bush, and not another republican, so this must mean Obama or his successor).

      6. The drought followed by the open winter (last year) is probably the first or second year of the *real* drought that Koyle spoke of. US Dept of Ag likely under-reported the numbers due to the comments I read from many farmers on the actual AG Web website. What I read from them directly contradicted the more positive outlook being advertised by the USDA.

      Other things are yet to come about still -- the worst of the drought and famine, the war, the mysterious terrible thing that happens to the president while he is still in office that finally causes the country/economy to fall to its knees. But I think its coming. And soon most likely.

    2. Kathy,

      I cannot refute what you have to say. I have tried to put Koyle's stuff all together - and I think you have the best scenario. This is a double - humper. The second one (steep decline) will happen around September 2015. It will be COMPLETE - no hope after. That fits in with personal revelation for me and my job situation. I think we are in the second year of the drought (this summer will confirm it). One thing more - I am confident that Koyle was right all along, but we are getting all of what he did say from second hand memories after quite some time after it was said. Simply put, alot of stuff gets lost from memory over time - even the best of brains will embellish or lose stuff - so for the few minor things that appear to be off, I would never fault him for it. Rather, I would say I would keep the baby and discard the bathwater. I cannot wait to see how this all plays out. We live in frightening times - and we live in very exciting times!

  9. Oh and one more thing: Depending on when he made the prediction about the president who was larger in stature (and with bigger ears) than the one in office at the time of his prediction -- Koyle was born in 1864. Its quite possible he was referring to Benjamin Harrison (1889-1893) and who was one of the *shortest* presidents we have ever had at only 5'6".
    So it makes sense that even though Obama is 'lean', he is also TALL and does in fact have quite prominent ears.

  10. With the news regarding GMO wheat in our export crops and Japan refusing to buy it (and Europe next) I think we are definitely 'here' in terms of the famine and the 'shriveled heads' of wheat / bad harvest coming soon. All signs point to go.

  11. Why don't we inquire of the Lord, as Nephi suggested to his brothers? If we have conformed our lives to the truth, we will be worthy of the Spirit and get answers, if not. . . . .

  12. I can't believe how many of Koyle's prophecies deal with the price of wheat.

    If wheat is so scarce that a bushel of gold will not buy a bushel of wheat, then what is needed is more wheat; not more gold.

    Also it is a VERY strange economy where a bushel of gold will not buy a bushel of wheat but you can buy an acre of land for a silver dollar.

    ALSO did Koyle make any prophecies about the coming of the internet?

    It seems any prophet worth his salt should have foreseen the internet, but I don't think anyone did including John Koyle.

  13. It's me again (from a couple of years ago)... I'm still keeping my ear to the ground regarding tough times ahead and some other discussion I was having with someone regarding John Titor led me back to the Koyle Prophecies. In my search to recommend reading to this friend, I came across the following book on Google Books... and that led me down the rabbit hole, so to speak:

    Pg. 52
    Koyle warned Utahns that they would know as the time approached by certain signs: there would be a severe winter in the country, followed by a wet spring and a dry hot summer, at which time the Dream Mine would "turn out", although he predicted that another mine with which he was associated in Mountain City, Nevada would turn out befre the Dream Mind. At that time, Utahns would take their gold to Denver to get it coined, but east of Denver all would be in chaos, the rails rusty, no care of the highways, and refugees would be coming in by foot to the protection of Utah's valleys.

    So, I googled Mountain City, Nevada and not much came up. I remembered hearing about a new threat from the BLM regarding a gold mine, so I decided to look that up. On Google's 'News' page, further down, I saw this:


    This is in ELKO county....Mountain City, Nevada is in ELKO county. I just thought you would find that interesting.

  14. Interesting. My BIL works at the mine in Elko.

  15. Well The 3 Older Apostles Just Passed Away...Elder Perry President Packer and Today Elder Scott.

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  17. Very thoughtful comments,another great website I have found about these things is

  18. Doc Hansen, moderator of The Dream Mine group on FacebookJune 25, 2020 at 9:23 AM

    I compiled this document back in the early 2000s. The Keibler with a lot of the Koyle material is that stories and facts have been manipulated slightly. I am presently of the belief that it might never come in. The future changes by the second. We make those changes by our choices in this life. And if it comes in, it might come in differently than any if us can imagine. Still . . It's an interesting story.