Wednesday, October 31, 2012


I just read this on LDSFF:

Jesus warns of persecution and betrayal coming

Postby DrJones » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:09 am
The words of Jesus recorded in Matt 24 struck me powerfully this week. Please consider with me what he prophesied regarding our day:

KJV: 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

And in a more modern NIV translation if you will:

6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

It is the part about being persecuted and betrayed by those we trusted that struck me most in this prophecy.
How will this betrayal occur? over what issues?

Some of us have actually experienced betrayal at the hands of those we trusted, and persecution.

Because I was outspoken on hard evidence regarding the falsity of the government story of 9/11 and the collapse of WTC7 and Towers, I found myself mocked and betrayed and yes, persecuted. I was mocked and ousted and shunned, frankly. It was so bad that my wife was in tears and we felt we needed to move out of our ward of over twenty years in Provo. We moved.

So I have just a taste I think of what Jesus was talking about. But clearly Jesus is prophesying of persecution on a much broader scale.

Let's face it, the whore Babylon seeks to fight against the good Woman (1 Nephi and Revelation and D&C warnings). Something will stir the Gadiantons, Babylon, against the Church in a major way and persecution and betrayal will follow. Then, " At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray.. each other". How will you be betrayed? or will you be a betrayer (I hope not)?

In the Aug 2010 Ensign, Pres. Packer speaking of Lehi's dream warned
All of the mocking does not come from outside of the Church. ... Be careful that you do not fall into the category of mocking.

What will cause this great turning in the eyes of the world, to a visible and deliberate mocking and persecution of the Mormons?
You can almost feel it coming, can't you?
What can I/we do to heed the words of Jesus -- to prepare to remain faithful, to not let our love grow cold?

This is what I had to say on the matter according to what I have seen in visions of others and my own witness:

Dr. Jones, I feel we will have foreign troops on our soil to "help" out after the second Civil War becomes so bad we cannot secure our own borders and coasts. They will be acting under the auspices of the UN and other international bodies who will declare that you will step into line or face death - specifically be having your head lobbed off according to scripture. There will be other modes of death - but this one particularly strikes fear into the hearts of people in a public example sort of way, so this mode will be used for effect. Many others will, as well, but this one will to get everyone else to tow the line. The end result will be to destroy God's people - it has always been that way.

So, there will be massive persecution, there will be terrible betrayal in order to literally save one's neck, and there will be death on a large scale. We will pass thru interesting times.

So, when I run into someone like Jeone (previous post) who is elect, but has fallen due to sin and circumstance, and who has that spirit of bloodlust and hate for what is right, I ask that the Lord to drop the hammer and straighten things out before that individual finds themselves on the side of betrayal and seeking after the lives of those who are good and right.  The Lord did it with Saul of NT fame.  Even having repented and descended to where he did in humility and service, he still had to experience the flip side of the fruits of his early labors so he would have a full knowledge in this life - and to seal his testimony with his blood.  Truly we reap what we sow.  I have some mind-blowing experiences from my own life that I will share sometime in the future, that drove home some hard lessons with me.

Sunday, October 28, 2012


Well, I am writing this while I am still reeling from the conversation I just had with one of my co-workers who, quite frankly I have not talked to in quite some time by my choice.  I just crossed three lines with her that I have never crossed with a female co-worker - ever.  I just hugged her twice, cried like a baby with her on a 747 we were fixing an electrical problem on, and she flashed me her belly along with her bra and half her breasts right there in front of two other female employees so she could show me her scars.  Now, in this current work environment, most any one of those three would get you fired.  And Jeone has gotten people fired for that kind of stuff - before her mighty change of heart.  The women in this work environment can call the shots - and HR does it.  Usually, there are no questions asked and you are face to face with the guard at the gate handing your badge in.....

It takes a boatload for me to get offended - and Jeone managed to do it.  I was mostly offended by what she had to say about the "Morons" one day about 18 months ago.  At the time, I was talking about her planned surgery for gastric bypass - not the lapband, the other one - she said its really safe; 99%.  Knowing that she was not particularly into God, I asked her if she was ready to meet her Maker if she fell into the 1% range.  She said she did not believe in that non-sense and then started going off about how she is surrounded by Mormons (Morons).  Apparently, she unwittingly bought a 2 acre parcel as part of a 20 acre piece that papa mormon had bought and divided up to give each of his 8 kids a piece of.  One of the kids had marriage trouble and had to sell - right smack in the middle of the rest of the clan.  Jeone bought the land not knowing she was walking into casserole, green jello, Book of Mormon "hell".  So, right there at her desk 18 months ago, she starts going off on how she can't stand them and started listing why they were delusional (like all other believers - but letting me know how bad the Mormons were in particular).  I was kind of embarrassed knowing that many of the other leads in the area knew of my religious affiliation.  So, not being one to let a funny situation go to waste, I joined in talking about how they have too many wives, a bunch of cultists, brainwashed - the usual insults and innuendos....  She even vented about how her daughter had gone off and joined the "cult" - she was not happy about that one.  After I overplayed my side of the whole thing, she caught on and goes, "What?  Are you one of those??".  I just smiled and said, yup....  I was smiling on the outside, but grieving/hurting on the inside.  She and I had a brother/sister type relationship - and she was crass and funny and rude and reminded my of my older sister, Christine.  We got along quite well, but that one kind of was too much for me.  To make matters worse, she kind of threw me under the bus the next day in a management meeting which elicited a personal visit by a manager to my desk.  When it looked like I was going under, I then asked if this had anything to do with Jeone the previous day.  My manager then chewed on me for bringing up religion of any sort in the workplace.  It started to get ugly - he had just walked one of my (Muslim) co-workers to the door for kind of similar stuff.  I had defended the Muslim and let my manager know I did not like how that went down - and things were deteriorating with this new manager and I.  I wondered if I would get the non-expense paid vacation.

Here is a previous post in response to that:

I did offer one of those prayers at that point - I can read the writing on the wall.  It was pretty clear at that point.

So fast forward to today - God does work in mysterious ways.  I had years ago identified Jeone as one of God's elect - I just knew He needed to break her hard outer shell down - like we all have; to get to our soft chewy middle where we can be pliant and molded like clay into the people He needs us to be.  We can choose to be humble; or we can be humbled by external forces and factors.  I had no idea when I asked if she was ready to meet her maker if she were among the 1% where things go wrong.  Well, it did.  She was clinically dead three times over the course of several months when stomach lining stitches gave away and had the scars to show where they had cut her open and irrigated her abdominal cavity.  I point blanked her an hour ago - "Did you have a NDE while you were 'gone'?".  She ignored me - I know she did, she would not dare let me know at that point, though.  We had not cried together and bonded at that point.  She did then get emotional and talked about how the stress of it all killed her husband - he had a heart attack and recovered from the first one.  The second one killed him - she found him out under the willow tree in the front yard.  I think God still had to increase the pain factor until she was pliant enough and willing to listen and learn of His ways.  She then lost her mother and then her best friend - the co-worker that got my Muslim friend fired within a matter of months of each other.  It was devastating to her - she had done the bypass surgery so she could lose the weight and get healthy so she and her husband could retire and fish together.

So, I shared my "Dallin dream" - and here is the kicker.  She then opened up in front of all of her subordinates that she believes in life after death and was bearing testimony that her husband came to her room door in the night, looked at her intently, smiled and then left.  That a few weeks after she died - we cried together and hugged again and I was off.  My tears were a little bitter remembering my own trauma, but mostly gratitude that God loves each of His children enough to allow them to pass through the hard things to allow them to be able to be in His presence.  He truly is mighty to save - physically, for sure; but most importantly, to save us spiritually.  If given enough time to get this done (time is short), I would like to sit in proxy for her husband to seal them together for time and all eternity.  There is more to this story - she is an elect and God will pluck his elect from their bad situations.  Hers was an oppressive Catholic upbringing - and God will apply salve to all the wounds and make it right.  I have seen it in my own life and life of my wife who has suffered terribly at the hands of her abusing step-father.

God truly does work miracles - all I can say is to be careful what you ask for.  In some ways, He will send the blessings in such a torrent that the flash flood can be overwhelming.

Saturday, October 27, 2012


GULP!  I just got off the phone with my wife who is in Montana and was chided for not having BOB (the disaster-mobile, Bug Out Bike) ready to go with all the goodies I planned on stuffing in the trunk on it.  She said I might regret it.

After hanging up, the first article I read in the newsfeed is about a major (something to write home about) EQ off the coast of BC - which I sure hope is not the "warning EQ" that Joshua Taylor talked about in last month's post that I shared on the Wood Zone.  Yikes!  Time to stuff that trunk full, get the bike warmed up and be ready to make like a banana and split.....  With the whole referendum on "gay marriage" here in Washington, its feeling very Sodomesque around here lately.

Here is a link to that previous post where Joshua said "
.....a "major earthquake had already occurred on the Island in excess of seven points."
In bringing forth the warning, the word of the Lord indicated that the earthquake would result in "a six foot tidal wave," and that "all vessels on the West Side were to be evacuated!"
The warning quake would "be a mercy quake," before a total destructive quake to follow!

Yowsa!!!  It was a 7.7, they are warning people all vessels along the West Side of Vancouver Island to evacuate or get boats out of the harbor and there just might be a 6 foot wave out of the deal.  Hmmm.....

It may just be me, but I have the jitters.  I have GOT TO switch to decaf - and soon!  Just kidding.

Originally published Saturday, October 27, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Originally published Saturday, October 27, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Tsunami warning follows major quake off coast of Canada

Tsunami warnings went out for parts of Alaska and the northern coast of British Columbia after a 7.7-magnitude earthquake was reported Saturday evening off the Queen Charlotte Islands.
Seattle Times science reporter

A tsunami warning was in effect for parts of Alaska and the northern coast of British Columbia after a powerful earthquake struck off the Queen Charlotte Islands on Saturday evening.
"No destructive widespread tsunami threat exists based on historical earthquake and tsunami data," said a bulletin from the West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center in Palmer, Alaska.
The quake, estimated at magnitude 7.7 by the U.S. Geological Survey, hit shortly after 8 p.m. Seattle time. There were no immediate reports of destruction in the sparsely populated region.
The quake could be among the largest ever recorded in the Pacific Northwest, said John Vidale, director of the Pacific Northwest Seismological Network at the University of Washington. It was followed by a magnitude-5.8 aftershock, and may also be linked to a smaller quake in Montana, he said.
More aftershocks could follow.
Vidale said the quake was not on the Cascadia Subduction Zone, the giant offshore fault that scientists say will one day unleash a megaquake and tsunami similar to the double-punch that hit Japan in 2011.
But Saturday's quake was of the type that can warp the seafloor, triggering a tsunami. "We don't know yet how wide an area it broke," Vidale said. The size of the seafloor displacement determines the size of the tsunami.
The tsunami warning center's website malfunctioned after the quake, creating initial confusion about the scope of the warning.
Jay Neher, of the National Weather Service in Seattle, said the warning applied only to the coastal areas of Alaska and British Columbia, from the north tip of Vancouver Island, British Columbia, to Cape Decision, Alaska.
The U.S. Coast Guard in Alaska said it was trying to warn everyone with a boat on the water to prepare for a potential tsunami.
Lt. Bernard Auth of the Juneau Command Center said the Coast Guard was also working with local authorities to alert people in coastal towns to take precautions.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Sandi Doughton: 206-464-2491 or


Wow - something to look forward to.....  Guess its time to get out the shotgun I bought for the 1999 WTO riots when the trash took to the streets and started busting out the windows and setting the dumpsters on fire in Seattle.

I have seen in night vision and in outward manifestations what happened to the third of the host of heaven that were cast out of heaven and never received a body.  I always wondered what happened to the 1/3 of the host of heaven who were basically fence sitters and not valiant; then I saw the rioting in Seattle and had my answer.  The something-for-nothings who just wanted to ruin everyone else's hard work and efforts and put the commandments at naught.  They congregated like the parasites that they are, and created chaos.  Then I saw the looting during Katrina - people not taking food and essentials to survive, but hauling big-screen tv's out of stores while the storm raged around them.

Now, we have a (sorry if I sound racist here....) white cracker from a religion that excluded blacks from Priesthood office for 145 years, "taking" the office of the black man on Martin Luther King day.  It does not get more ripe for rioting than that!  Even if it is clear that the election was won fair and square by a landslide, it will still dredge up all kinds of emotions (that are mostly real - and many contrived, I am sure...).  Move over Rodney King - you are going to be a minor footnote in the annals of riot history compared to this one - if it comes about.

Wow - just beautiful!  I wonder how many millions it will cost the Church to repair the church buildings and temples that will get torched.... and I am not even going into private property and businesses of those "damned capitalists".... that Obummer loves so much.....   I am less than two miles from a chapel that was torched in a nice area of town during the California Prop 8 hypocrisy.  That whole thing was sissy play compared to what January 21 could bring.  I do have to say, though, I will take the LGBT's over the angry black mobs any day!  Much rather get whipped with a boa, than num-chucks, or worse....

Here is the article that got me spun up: 

WND Exclusive

Guess when Inauguration Day is in 2013?

Hint: New president not sworn in Jan. 20 as most have assumed

WASHINGTON – If Barack Obama loses the election to Mitt Romney, his official White House move-out day won’t be Jan. 20, as most have assumed.
If a new president is elected Nov. 6, he won’t be officially and publicly sworn in until Jan. 21, 2013 – which happens to be Martin Luther King Jr. Day, a federal holiday.

That’s the determination of the Presidential Inaugural Conference, because Jan. 20 falls on a Sunday in 2013.
It’s not exactly a state secret that the 57th Inauguration in the nation’s history will take place on Jan. 21, Martin Luther King Day – but it will surely come as news to most Americans. Obama, the first black president, was sworn in on the traditional Inaugural date of Jan. 20 – the day before the holiday.
The Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies is chaired by Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer and includes Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Republican Sen. Lamar Alexander, Speaker of the House John Boehner, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor and House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi. This is the body that plans and executes all Inaugural activities at the U.S. Capitol, including the swearing-in ceremony of the president and vice president and the traditional luncheon that follows.
In fact, visitors to the Capitol may have noticed that the building of the platform for the swearing in officially began last month.
On Sept. 20, the committee members picked up hammers and symbolically began the construction.
“Since 1797, when President Washington stood behind President Adams at the third Inaugural, this ceremony has represented the greatness of our Republic.” said Cantor. “The civility that defines our electoral process is a shining example to the world that in America, we are truly governed by the people. I will be honored to participate in January.”
But will civility rule on Jan. 21?
Protests are already being planned. No matter who the victor is Nov. 6, local District of Columbia officials have already announced they will be out along the parade route demonstrating over Washington’s lack of budgetary and representative autonomy. Even Mayor Vince Gray will be among the protestors.
“While we don’t have concrete plans at this stage, we all very cognizant of the opportunity we have in front of us,” he said.
Meanwhile, the social media have been abuzz with threats by Obama supporters to riot if Romney wins.
For what it’s worth, here are some recent Twitter posts:
  • Jae Taylor @JaeRawww: If Obama don’t win lets start a riot so Romney know what he’s getting himself into
  • SCORE @SCOREdkoi: Ima start a riot I’ma start riot RT @CuzinSkeetOnHer: If Romney wins im goin on a rampage
  • Pat 47% Entitled @patticar: if every action IS met with an equal and opposite reaction ..what should workers do to employers if Romney’s elected? #Riot in the streets!!
  • Libby @__Anait__: If Romney becomes president let’s all start a riot
  • king loyalty @coreylb1986: I Heard Mitt Romney , Tryna Take Away Food Stamps , If He Do .”IMA START A RIOT , IMA START A RIOT”
Not content with threats to riot if Romney wins in November, some Obama supporters have announced on Twitter they intend to vandalize and burn down the White House if the GOP candidate is victorious, Twitchy reports.
“If Romney wins I’m blowing up the White House (sic),” tweeted “Davis.” The tweet was later deleted, but not before being captured by Twitchy.
“Romney gets on my nerves. If he wins I’m throwing black paint on the white house (sic),” added “Octoburr 30th.”
Twitter user “Panther Biddness” threatened to assault the White House with a contingent of Black Panthers, while another threatened to defecate on the White House lawn.
Several threatened to burn the White House down and one individual said he would shoot the presidential residence.
“[I]f romney wins, i will set the white house on fire and make it look like an accident (sic),” another grammatically-challenged individual wrote.
So who is going to be providing security for the Inauguration Jan. 21, 2013?
The U.S. Army will be involved in a joint task force with the Capitol Police and members of police departments from around the country. But it will be the Department of Defense that is paramount to the security of the 57th presidential Inauguration.


Just got this from LDS AVOW (A Voice Of Warning) - a fringie LDS prepper site that does have alot of good info - and alot of wild-eyed people.  Yes, that coming from me.....

Anyway, I thought it was a good little piece of info if verifiable:

Funny (not) thing happened today at the gun show.... (young blacks buying weapons?)

I went to the Crossroads gun show today in Las Vegas to replenish my ammo and other supplies. I saw something that I hadn't seen before in the years I've been going to these shows: a lot of young black people. They came in pairs. As I was leaving, I met up with my friend who was staffing the Vietnam Veterans table. I asked him about it. He assured me that I was not seeing things. He, too, had been watching all day and noticed the same thing. He said they came in pairs, bought guns and .. (Read More)


Sounds like this Rabbi might have been onto something.

Just 5 years till 'end times' commence?

Exclusive: Joseph Farah explains so far dead-on prophecies of 13th-century rabbi

Several years ago, Ludwig Schneider, a German-language scholar, discovered an amazing prophecy dating back to 1217 by a scholarly and highly respected rabbi by the name of Judah Ben Samuel.
He was quite famous in his time as the initiator of the Chassidic Ashkenaz, a movement of Jewish mysticism in Germany. He founded a yeshiva in Regensburg and secured many pupils. Legend has it that, as a young man, he was an excellent bowman but knew little or nothing about daily prayers. But once he got serious about his faith, legend has it that he performed many miracles. It is also reported that he was given a prophecy about the exact year of Israel’s rebirth as a nation and its redemption.

So renowned was his work, the Bishop of Salzburg asked him to serve as his personal seer.
Because most of his writings were published so long ago – before the invention of the printing press – and in German, few copies have survived. But Schneider has a copy of Judah Ben Samuel’s prophecy about the nation of Israel and the messianic era and has translated the highlights of it into English and other languages for the magazine Israel Today.
The prophecy involves the Jubilee Year cycle every 50 years. I should point out there’s much controversy about pinpointing Jubilee Years because they have not been observed in Israel since ancient times, while no one is 100 percent certain about when they should occur on the modern Hebrew calendar.
However, in the year Judah Ben Samuel died in 1217, he prophesied that the Ottoman Turks would rule over the holy city of Jerusalem for eight Jubilees. Now, keep in mind, he made this prediction 300 years before the Turks seized control of Jerusalem in 1517. In fact, the Ottoman Empire, as it would become to be known, did not even really exist yet in 1217.
According to Judah Ben Samuel, 1217 was a Jubilee Year. If he was right, that would also make 1517 a Jubilee Year.
Exactly 400 years after the Ottoman Turks took control of Jerusalem in 1517, they were driven out of the city and the Holy Land in 1917 by the Allied forces under the command of Gen. George Allenby – on Hanukkah, by the way.
But it gets more interesting still.
The rabbi also prophesied that during the ninth Jubilee Jerusalem would be a “no-man’s land.” This is exactly what happened from 1917 to 1967, due to the fact that the Holy Land was placed under British Mandate in 1917 by the League of Nations and literally “belonged” to no nation. Even after Israel’s war of independence in 1948-49 Jerusalem was still divided by a strip of land running right through the heart of the city, with Jordan controlling the eastern part of the city and Israel controlling the western part of the city. That strip of land was considered and even called “no-man’s land” by both the Israelis and the Jordanians.
It was not until the Six Day War in 1967 when the entire west bank of the holy land was conquered by the Israeli army that the whole city of Jerusalem passed back into the possession of Israel. So once again the prophecy made by the rabbi 750 years previously was fulfilled to the letter.
It certainly would be significant if indeed both 1917 and 1967 were Jubilee years considering the significance of what happened in Jerusalem on those years. But it gets better.
The rabbi also prophesied that during the 10th Jubilee, Jerusalem would be under the control of the Jews and the Messianic “end times” would begin. The 10th Jubilee began in 1967 and will be concluded in – 2017.
What should we expect to happen in 2017? I will leave that to your imagination.
But one thing is certain: Judah Ben Samuel made some truly remarkable prophecies that came to pass.

We’ll have to wait about four more years to see if his final prediction does as well.

Friday, October 26, 2012


I think this is one of the most beautiful love stories I have ever read (move over Romeo and Juliet...).

It describes a pure love - one that you will never find in a modern Hollywood setting.  One where chastity rules, repentance is central and angels attend.  I know that the recording of past events are often idyllized by the writer to make the characters seem more pure, more perfect than they really were - but I feel Joseph really was this kind of guy.  I am sure the portrayal of Asenath was realistic and I know this kind of overwhelming/total repentance brings a visit from the Heavenly courts with tidings of great joy.  This is just a snippet of the story of apocryphal love and redemption and conversion that I think much can be learned from:

Chapter Eight

1. And Aseneth's mother went up to the top storey and brought Aseneth down to Joseph; and Pentephres said to his daughter Aseneth, "Greet your brother, for he too is a virgin as you are to-day, and he detests all strange women just as you detest strange men."

2. And Aseneth said to Joseph, "May you have joy, my lord, blessed as you are of God Most High"; and Joseph said to her, "May God, who has given all things life, bless you."

3. And Pentephres said to Aseneth, "Come near and kiss your brother."

4. And when she came near to kiss Joseph, Joseph stretched his right hand out, and laid it against her breast, and said,

5. "It is not right for a man who worships God, who with his mouth blesses the living God, and eats the blessed bread of life, and drinks the blessed cup of immortality, and is anointed with the blessed unction of incorruption, to kiss a strange woman, who with her mouth blesses dead and dumb idols, and eats of their table the bread of anguish, and drinks of their libations the cup of treachery, and is anointed with the unction of destruction.

6. A man who worships God will kiss his mother and his sister that is of his own tribe and kin, and the wife that shares his couch, who with their mouths bless the living God.

7. So too it is not right for a woman who worships God to kiss a strange man, because this is an abomination in God's eyes."

8. And when Aseneth heard what Joseph said, she was most distressed and cried out aloud; and she fixed her gaze on Joseph, and her eyes were filled with tears.

9. And Joseph saw her and his heart went out to her -- for Joseph was tender-hearted and compassionate and feared the Lord.

10. And he lifted up his right hand above her head and said,

"O Lord, the God of my father Israel, the Most High, the Mighty One,

Who didst quicken all things, and didst call them from darkness into light.

And from error into truth, and from death into life;

Do thou, O Lord, thyself quicken and bless this virgin,

11. And renew her by thy spirit, and remould her by thy secret hand,

And quicken her with thy life.

And may she eat the bread of thy life,

And may she drink the cup of thy blessing,

She whom thou didst choose before she was begotten,

And may she enter into thy rest, which thou has prepared for thine elect."

Chapter Nine

1. And Aseneth was filled with joy at Joseph's blessing, and she went up in haste to her storey at the top and fell on her couch exhausted, because she felt not only happy, but also disturbed and very frightened; and she had been bathed in perspiration from the moment she heard Joseph speaking to her in the name of God Most High.

2. And she wept bitterly, and she repented of her gods she used to worship; and she waited for evening to come.

3. And Joseph ate and drank; and he said to his servants, "Yoke the horses to the chariot" (for he said, "I must depart and go round the whole city and the district").

4. And Pentephres said to Joseph, "Stay the night here, my lord and to-morrow go your way."

5. And Joseph said, "No! I must be going now, for this is the day when God began his works: in eight days time I will come back again and stay the night here with you."

Chapter Ten

1. Then Pentephres and his relations went away to their estate.

2. And Aseneth was left alone with the virgins, and she was listless and wept until sunset: she ate no bread and drank no water; and while all slept she alone was awake.

3. And she opened the door and went down to the gate; and she found the portress asleep with her children.

4. And Aseneth quickly took down the leather curtain from the door, and she filled it with ashes and carried it up to the top storey and laid it on the floor.

5. And she secured the door and fastened it with the iron bar from the side; and she groaned aloud and wept.

6. And the virgin that Aseneth loved most of all the virgins heard her mistress groaning, and she roused the other virgins and came and found the door shut.

7. And she listened to Aseneth groaning and weeping and said, "Why are you so sorrowful my lady? What is it that its troubling you?

8. Open the door for us, so that we can see you." And Aseneth said to them from inside (shut in as she was, "I have a violent headache and am resting on my bed; and I have no strength left to open to you now, for I am utterly exhausted; but go each of you to her room."

9. And Aseneth got up and opened her door quietly, and went into her second room, where her treasure-chests and the finery for her adornment were, and she opened her wardrobe and took out a black and sombre tunic.

10. (And this was her mourning tunic, which she had worn for mourning when her eldest brother died). And Aseneth took off her royal robe and put on the black one, and she untied her golden girdle and tied a rope around her waist instead, and she took her tiara off her head and the diadem, and the bracelets from her hands.

12. And she took her best robe, just as it was, and threw it out of the window, for the poor.

13. And she took all her innumerable gold and silver gods and broke them up into little pieces, and threw them out of the window for the poor and needy.

14. And Aseneth took her royal dinner, even the fatted beasts and the fish and the meat, and all the sacrifices of her gods, and the wine-vessels for their libations; and she threw them all out of the window as food for the dogs.

15. And after this she took the ashes and poured them out on the floor.

16. And she took sackcloth and wrapped it round her waist, and she removed the fillet from her hair and sprinkled herself with ashes; and she fell down upon the ashes.

17. And she beat her breast repeatedly with her two hands and wept bitterly and groaned all night until the morning.

18. And in the morning Aseneth got up and looked and lo, the ashes underneath her were like mud because of her tears.

19. And again, Aseneth fell down on her face upon the ashes until sunset.

20. And so Aseneth did for seven days; and she tasted neither food nor drink.

Chapter Eleven

1. And it came to pass on the eighth day that Aseneth looked up from the floor where she was lying (for she was losing the use of her limbs as a result of her great affliction).

Chapter Twelve

1. And she stretched her hands out towards the east, and her eyes looked up to heaven, and she said,

2. "O Lord, God of the ages, that didst give to all the breath of life,
That didst bring into the light the things unseen,
That hast made all things and made visible what was invisible,

3. That hast raised up the heaven and founded the earth upon the waters,
That hast fixed the great stones upon the abyss of water
Which shall not be submerged,
But to the end they do thy will.

4. O Lord, my God, to thee will I cry: hear my supplication;
And unto thee will I make confession of my sins,
And unto thee will I reveal my transgressions of thy law.

5. I have sinned, O Lord, I have sinned:
I have transgressed thy law and acted impiously,
And I have spoken things evil before thee.
My mouth, O Lord, has been defiled by things offered to idols,
And by the table of the gods of the Egyptians.

6. I have sinned, O Lord, before thee; I have sinned and acted impiously,
Worshiping idols deaf and dumb,
And I am not worthy to open my mouth unto thee, wretch that I am.

7. I have sinned, O Lord, before thee,
I, the daughter of Pentephres the priest,
the haughty and arrogant Aseneth.
To thee, O Lord, I present my supplication, and unto thee will I cry:
Deliver me from my persecutors, for unto thee have I fled,
Like a child to his father and his mother.

8. And do thou, O Lord, stretch forth thy hands over me,
As a father that loves his children and is tenderly affectionate,
And snatch me from the hand of my enemy.

9. For lo, the wild primeval Lion pursues me;
And his children are the gods of the Egyptians that I have abandoned and destroyed; And their father the Devil is trying to devour me

10. But do thou, O Lord deliver me from his hands,
And rescue me from his mouth,
Lest he snatch me like a wolf and tear me,
And cast me into the abyss of fire, and into the tempest of the sea;
And let not the great Sea-monster swallow me.

11. Save me, O Lord, deserted as I am,
For my father and mother denied me,
Because I destroyed and shattered their gods;
And I have no other hope save in thee, O Lord;
For thou art the father of the orphans, and the champion of the persecuted,
And the help of them that are oppressed.

12. For, lo, all the gods of my father Pentephres are but for a season and uncertain; but the inhabitants of thine inheritance, O Lord, are incorruptible and eternal.

Chapter Thirteen

1. Look upon my ophanhood, O Lord, for unto thee did I flee, O Lord.

2. Lo, I took off my royal robe interwoven with gold and put on a black tunic instead.

3. Lo, I loosed my golden girdle and girt myself with a rope and sackcloth.

4. Lo, I threw off my diadem from my head and sprinkled myself with ashes.

5. Lo, the floor of my room once scattered with stones of different colors and of purple, and besprinkled with myrrh, is now sprinkled with my tears and scattered with ashes.

6. Lo, Lord, from the ashes and from my tears there is as much mud inside my room as there is on a public highway.

7. Lo, Lord, my royal dinner and my fatted beasts have I given to the dogs.

8. And lo, for seven days and seven nights I have neither eaten bread nor drunk water; and my mouth is dry like a drum and my tongue like horn, and my lips like a potsherd, and my face is shrunken, and my eyes are failing as a result of my incessant tears.

9. But do thou, O Lord, pardon me, for in ignorance did I sin against thee and uttered calumnies against my lord Joseph.

10. And I did not know, wretch that I am, that he is thy son, O Lord; for they told me that Joseph was a shepherd's son from the land of Canaan, and I believed them; but I was wrong, and I despised Joseph, thine elect one, and I spoke evil of him, not knowing that he is thy son.

11. For what man ever was so handsome and who else is as wise and strong as Joseph? But to thee, my Lord, do I entrust him; for I love him more than mine own soul.

12. Preserve him in the wisdom of thy grace, and give me to him as a servant, so that I may wash his feet and serve him and be his slave for all the seasons of my life.

Chapter Fourteen

1. And as Aseneth finished her confession to the Lord, lo, the morning star rose in the eastern sky.

2. And Aseneth saw it and rejoiced and said, "The Lord God has indeed heard me, for this star is a messenger and herald of the light of the great day.

3. And lo, the heaven was torn open near the morning star and an indescribable light appeared.

4. And Aseneth fell on her face upon the ashes; and there came to her a man from heaven and stood at her head; and he called to her, "Aseneth".

5. And she said, "Who called me? For the door of my room is shut and the tower is high: how then did anyone get into my room?"

6. And the man called her a second time and said, "Aseneth, Aseneth;" and she said, "Here am I, my lord, tell me who you are."

7. And the man said, "I am the commander of the Lord's house and chief captain of all the host of the Most High: stand up, and I will speak to you."

8. And she looked up and saw a man like Joseph in every respect, with a robe and a crown and a royal staff.

9. But his face was like lightning, and his eyes were like the light of the sun, and the hairs of his head like flames of fire, and his hands and feet like iron from the fire.

10. And Aseneth looked at him, and she fell on her face at his feet in great fear and trembling. 11. And the man said to her, "Take heart, Aseneth, and do not be afraid; but stand up, and I will speak to you."

12. And Aseneth got up, and the man said to her, "Take off the black tunic you are wearing and the sackcloth round your waist, and shake the ashes off your head, and wash your face with water.

13. And put on a new robe that you have never worn before, and tie your bright girdle round your waist -- the double girdle of your virginity.

14. And then come back to me, and I will tell you what I have been sent to you to say."

15. And Aseneth went into the room where her treasure-chests and the finery for her adornment were; and she opened her wardrobe and took out a new, fine robe, and she took off her black robe and put on the new and brilliant one.

16. And she untied the rope and the sackcloth round her waist; and she put on the brilliant double girdle of her virginity -- one girdle round her waist and the other round her breast.

17. And she shook the ashes off her head, and washed her face with pure water, and covered her head with a fine and lovely veil.

Chapter Fifteen

1. And she came back to the man; and when the man saw her he said to her, "Take now the veil off your head, for to-day you are a pure virgin and your head is like a young man's."

2. So she took it off her head; and the man said to her, "Take heart, Aseneth, for lo, the Lord has heard the words of your confession.

3. Take heart, Aseneth, your name is written in the book of life, and it will never be blotted out.

4. From to-day you will be made new, and refashioned, and given new life; and you shall eat the bread of life and drink the cup of immortality, and be anointed with the unction of incorruption.

5. Take heart, Aseneth: lo, the Lord has given you to Joseph to be his bride, and he shall be your bridegroom.

6. And you shall no more be called Aseneth, but 'City of Refuge' shall be your name; for many nations shall take refuge in you, and under your wings shall many peoples find shelter, and within your walls those who give their allegiance to God in penitence will find security.

7. For Penitence is the Most High's daughter and she entreats the Most High on your behalf every hour, and on behalf of all who repent; for he is the father of Penitence and she the mother of virgins, and every hour she petitions him for those who repent; for she has prepared a heavenly bridal chamber for those who love her, and she will look after them for ever.

8. And Penitence is herself a virgin, very beautiful and pure and chaste and gentle; and God Most High loves her, and all his angels do her reverence.

9. And lo, I am on my way to Joseph, and I will talk to him about you, and he will come to you to-day and see you and rejoice over you; and he shall be your bridegroom.

10. So listen to me, Aseneth, and put on your wedding robe, the ancient robe, the first that was stored away in your room, and deck yourself in all your finest jewelry, and adorn yourself as a bride, and be ready to meet him.

11. For lo, he is coming to you to-day; and he will see you and rejoice."

12. And when the man had finished speaking Aseneth was overjoyed.

13. And she fell at his feet and said to him, "Blessed be the Lord God that sent you out to deliver me from darkness and bring me into light; and blessed be his name for ever.

14. Let me speak now, my lord, if I have found favor with you: sit down a little on the bed, and I will get a table ready and food for you to eat; and I will bring you good wine, of the finest flavor, for your to drink; and then you shall go your way."

Chapter Sixteen

1. And the man said to her, "Bring me, please, a honeycomb too."

2. And Aseneth said, "Let me send someone my lord, to my family estate in the country and I will get you a honeycomb."

3. And the man said to her, "Go into your inner room and you will find a honeycomb there."

4. And Aseneth went into her inner room and found a honeycomb lying on the table; and the comb was as white as snow and full of honey, and its smell was like the breath of life.

5. And Aseneth took the comb and brought it to him; and the man said to her, "Why did you say, 'There is no honeycomb in my house?' And lo, you have brought me this."

6. And Aseneth said, My lord, I had no honeycomb in my house, but it happened just as you said:

did it perchance come out of your mouth, for it smells like myrrh?"

7. And the man stretched his hand out and placed it on her head and said, "You are blessed, Aseneth, for the indescribable things of God have been revealed to you; and blessed too are those who give their allegiance to the Lord God in penitence, for they shall eat of this comb.

8. The bees of the Paradise of Delight have made this honey, and the angels of God eat of it, and no one who eats of it shall ever die.

9. And the man stretched his right hand out and broke off a piece of the comb and ate it; and he put a piece of it unto Aseneth's mouth.

10. And the man stretched his hand out and put his finger on the edge of the comb that faced eastwards; and the path of his finger became like blood.

11. And he stretched out his hand a second time and put his finger on the edge of the comb that faced northwards, and the path of his finger became like blood.

12. And Aseneth was standing on the left and watching everything the man was doing.

13. And bees came up from the cells of the comb, and they were white as snow, and their wings were iridescent -- purple and blue and gold; and they had golden diadems on their heads and sharp-pointed strings.

14. And all the bees flew in circles round Aseneth, from her feet right up to her head; and yet more bees, as big as queens, settled on Aseneth's lips.

15. And the man said to the bees, "Go, please, to your places."

16. And they all left Aseneth and fell to the ground, every one of them, and died.

17. And the man said, "Get up now, and go to your place;" and they got up and went, every one of them, to the court round Aseneth's tower.

Chapter Seventeen

1. And the man said to Aseneth, "Have you observed this?" and she said, "Yes, my lord, I have observed it all."

2. And the man said, "So shall be the words I have spoken to you."

3. And the man touched the comb, and fire went up from the table and burnt up the comb; and, as it burned, the comb gave out a refreshing fragrance that filled the room.

4. And Aseneth said to the man, "There are, my lord, seven virgins with me, who have been brought up with me, and who wait upon me: they were born in the same night as I was and I love them: let me call them, so that you can bless them as you have blessed me.

5. And the man said, "Call them;" and Aseneth called them, and the man blessed them and said, "God, the Most High, will bless you for ever."

6. And the man said to Aseneth, "Take this table away;" and Aseneth turned to move the table, and the man vanished out of her sight, and Aseneth saw what looked like a chariot of fire being taken up into heaven towards the east.

7. And Aseneth said, "Be merciful, O Lord, to thy maidservant, because it was in ignorance that I spoke evil before thee."

Chapter Eighteen

1. And while this was happening, behold, a young man, one of Joseph's servants, came and said, "Lo, Joseph, the mighty man of God is coming to you to-day."

2. And Aseneth called her steward and said, "Get ready a special dinner for me, because Joseph the mighty man of God, is coming to us."

3. And Aseneth went into her room and opened her wardrobe, and she took out her finest robe that shone like lightning, and she put it on.

4. And she tied a resplendent royal girdle round her waist -- and this girdle was of precious stones.

5. And she put golden bracelets round her hands, and golden boots on her feet, and a costly necklace about her neck; and she put a golden crown upon her head, and in the crown, in front, were the costliest of stones.

6. And she covered her head with a veil.

7. And she said to her maidservant, "Bring me pure water from the spring. And Aseneth bent down to the water in the basin [on the cockle-shell]; and her face was like the sun, and her eyes like the rising morning star.


Popped on over to Denver Snuffer this morning.  Does this scripture not encapsulate the purpose of our journey here on this earth?  Would not this be a nice capstone to the project of building our life around the Savior?  Is this not where strength in the marriage reaches its pinnacle - when two people bound together embark on this journey together, utilizing each others' strengths to make it to this point, just as Adam and Eve did?  Is not that the prototype of our earthly existence?

"[T]he Lord showed himself unto him, and said: Because thou knowest these things ye are redeemed from the fall; therefore ye are brought back into my presence; therefore I show myself unto you." (Ether 3: 13.)

At my niece's baptism, in giving a talk on baptism, I told her this was her next step after receiving the baptism by fire; the next logical outgrowth of having had hands laid on her head and given the charge to do just that. 

You would  have thought I was advocating eating dog poop with whipped cream and a marachino cherry on top by the looks on faces......  Nobody was glaring at me, but there sure were a lot of confused looks on faces at my "new" doctrine.


The reason I was so jazzed about the previous post on the recording by Spencer is that he talked about some group of Saints being led to Cardston - and then implied that they would then follow the Ten Tribes down into Jackson County once that area had been swept clean.  The book I am getting very soon, will confirm that with a little more detail fleshed in.  I take what he had to say with 100% certainty - partly because it rings true with my personal revelation and it rings true with everything I have read on the matter from the earliest sayings to the latest I can find.

Here is the contents of a previous post of mine from 2011 where I talked about coming into the Flathead valley and the impression I was given at that time.  We have some friends who have moved to the East side of the Divide (where little damage will occur - compared to the rest of the West) and are looking at being there as a way point for when the hordes come thru trying to escape the damage and chaos further west.  Hopefully they have a place for me to pitch my tent.....

Hope you enjoy it:


Sols Guardisto had an interesting vision that I came across after an unusual set of circumstances. My wife and I had been in Utah for some sort of family function and we had been told about how beautiful the Flathead Valley area was by someone we trusted in her family. They were from Jackson Hole, WY and said Kalispell was beautiful....

I was all ears - and we were in the market for some land at the time that we could afford to build on and get completely out of debt (before I really got as radical as I am now). So, with no kids in tow on that trip, we decided to head north up I-15 and go check it out.

As we were driving into the valley at the north end of the lake, I told my wife as I pointed to Glacier National Park, "If we decide to live here, one day we will have to cross those mountains on foot and join the Saints over in Cardston, AB" (much like the VonTrapps crossed the Alps on foot - and I later found out that the kids incidentally settled in that very valley - weird, huh?). My statement was truly random and I surprised myself when I said it. It made an impression on me and I mentioned it to my bishop back home who is/was very preparedness minded - to which he said, "Oh, you will be very interested in what I have about the Cardston Temple." Next time I saw him he handed me a copy of the Sols Guardisto vision. I thought it was pretty odd stuff - but it did mention the Saints gathering to Cardston in their tribulation - and that it would be free from the geological upheavals that I have since come to believe will surely come upon us.

Anyone that knows the history of Glacier National Park knows that the mountains that are about 25 miles deep were chaotically piled up there in about two weeks - and that according to the geologists that claim it takes millions of years for anything to form (and I would include with that - an intelligent thought in their clouded minds....). I have since come to the conclusion that the reason that we will have to go on foot is that the roads/bridges, etc will be so broken as to be impassable by vehicle. For some time, I thought it would be due to lack of fuel and social breakdown - but I now discount that in light of what geological upheaval I think may be coming - which aligns with what Sols had to say:

I saw the international world war automatically break down, and national revolutions occur in every country and complete the work of chaos and desolation. I saw geological disturbances occur, which helped in this work as if it were intended to do so. I saw the Cardston Temple preserved from all this geological upheaval. I saw the international boundary line disappear as these two governments broke up and dissolved into chaos. I saw race rioting upon this American continent on a vast scale.

The then Temple President, Edward J Wood submitted it to Church leadership at the time and they put their stamp of approval on the vision even though Sols was not a member of the Church at the time she had the vision during the Temple open house. We are in for some very interesting times ahead! Buckle up!

If I had to choose a place to be during the next massive earthquake, it would be on the eastern front of the Rockies near a large body of Saints and above 2500 feet elevation and away from anything that represents a fault line.... Denver is out, so is anyplace in Wyoming, so I am stuck with Eastern Montana just south of the border.... Giddyup!

Thursday, October 25, 2012


In previous posts, I have talked about the nature of prophesying - it is RARE to non-existent that someone can accurately come up with all three elements that lock in agency - the event, the time, the place.  The minute you give away something of the future in a prophetic statement, you begin to change the very nature of what was said. 

Much like declaring that a boat is going to sink by a direct impact on the starboard side from another ship on a foggy bay causing many people to drown in the process.  Sometimes, when people believe a statement to be accurate, they will move to avoid that stated effect; possibly moving to the opposite side of the ship, causing it to capsize and the disaster to come about - but not exactly as initially predicted - because people acted on their agency and skewed the outcome in a different direction.  It is for this reason - and the fact that people are naturally lazy and would not heed a warning until the last possible moment - that prophecy is not given very often, or in enough clarity to make it useable to the average person, thus making it generally unbelievable due to its vagueness.  Only striving and feeling after something will unlock the vague meanings of things and give the seeker the prize of having that vision unfolded on their mind.

Then, there is the obstructionist element of people; the tendency to not want something to happen to the point that you will do what it takes to try and make it stop.  The most famous example of that is trying to stop the work of God by killing the one sent to re-kindle the movement; such as Jesus or even Joseph.  What folly - that (the death of the testator) usually results in the igniting of a movement that rallies around the martyr that is virtually impossible to extinguish over time.  This was the reason that the U.S. made sure they got Bin Laden's body out of Pakistan, and the reason that the authorities of the day put the Roman Centurion to guard the Savior's tomb.  No body, no shrine, no cult worship; or so they thought....  Another example of this obstructionist behavior is manifested by the Islamic world in that they blocked up the Golden Gate on the east side of Jerusalem's Herodian walls and planted a muslim cemetery in front of it in hopes of making the Great High Priest unclean so that he could not triumphantly enter His temple in the Holy City in fulfillment of prophecy.  The idea being that throwing up enough road blocks would somehow prevent God from fulfilling one of the greatest moments in history.  I watch with wonder and amazement, because I know that the chess pieces will be summarily swept from that board in a decisive and humiliating manner - it stinks to be them.  My God is great - and will not be mocked - even by an ignorant and backward people who are still His children.

A little closer to home, we have the copper "dome of the rock" occupying our most holy site in Independence, MO - one quarter of it anyway.  Placed there by impostors who have weakly attempted to change history as stated by our common accepted leader, Joseph Smith - in that a massive temple complex will be built on that spot.  I get a little disturbed by the arrogance of that chess move - and expect also a decisive sweeping motion to take care of that mis-step on their part.  Again, it stinks to be them.  And reminds me to always choose my words, positions and sides wisely; for it truly is survival of the spiritual fittest in this life.  It was also thus in the pre-existence as 1/3 of our spirit siblings discovered.   Choosing the wrong side of an issue can be disastrous.  These are words of warning when it comes to our near-future as a great test and division is coming within the Church.  How we choose will determine whether we move to the next scenario, or whether we are damned in our progress, or halted altogether.

I often think of the alternate scenario we would have had the people of the day (both in and out of the Church) had allowed (through their collective righteousness) Joseph to live in order that he reach 85 years of age - in 1890.  Where would we be today?  What laws would we be living right now?  I say basking in Millennial peace and glory with no need for two world wars of hell on earth and the third one just around the corner that will take billions of lives.  That was billions with a B......   Another, more astounding thought, is what would have happened if the collective righteousness of the day had meant that the Savior would not have been so cruelly lifted up - well, okay; that had to happen......

Here is a recycled snippet from a previous post that I endorse when it comes to the operation of the the gift of prophecy:

Kevin Williams' research conclusions

Many people were given visions of the future during their near-death experience. Generally, these visions foretell a future of catastrophic natural disasters and social upheaval followed by a new era of peace and have actually already come to pass. Some of them did not happen as foretold. Many of these apocalyptic visions are to happen within the next few decades. Remarkably, these visions agree with prophecies of the Bible, Edgar Cayce, Nostradamus, and the Virgin Mary visitations of Fatima, Garabandal, and Medjugorje.

Scientific Evidence Supporting the Ability to Successfully Predict the Future

The 9/11 New York City terrorist attack seems to have affected global consciousness through more than news channels. There seems to have been a psychic dimension to the response. Since August, 1998, the Global Consciousness Project, located at Princeton University, has maintained observation of about 40 radioactive random number generators placed at locations around the world. Previous research has shown that the activity of such devices can be affected by psychokinesis (mind over matter). The project tracks psychokinetic effects on these sensitive instruments produced by dramatic events impinging upon global consciousness.

After the terrorist attack, the project assembled data from the generators to see if there had been any extraordinary output from these devices. According to the project's report, there was indeed an unmistakable and profound response. The interpretation of the result is that the world's awareness of the terrorist tragedy created a powerful moment of global awareness, a unified and coherent psychic event which impacted the output of the radioactivity in data collectors. The global consciousness event appears to have begun approximately 10 minutes before the first crash until about four hours afterward. (Kevin Williams)

A Successful Apocalyptic Prophecy Is One That Doesn't Happen

The goal of apocalyptic prophecy is to warn people to prevent it from happening. The reason prophecies are given to humanity is to change current trends and change enough people so that the prophecy will be diverted. Well-known prophecies that were foretold to occur around the millennium have not happened. Skeptics point out that this proves these prophecies to be false. But a better understanding of prophecy reveals that either (1) or (2) is true:

The prophecy was successful in permanently diverting the outcome by the raising of the world's consciousness.


Because the prophecy gives an exact date, the prophecy may still be valid and the date may be wrong.

Prophecies from very credible sources rarely give an exact date. Even Jesus said he didn't know the date and time when he would return. This should be a lesson to everyone who comes across a prophecy with an exact date. (Kevin Williams)

The Future Is Not Fixed And Can Change

During Karen Schaeffer's NDE, she was shown her children's future as it would exist if she decided to remain in the light. Because she decided to return, the future she was shown did not happen. This suggests that the future is always changing from moment to moment based upon our current actions and decisions. This principle supports quantum mechanic principles. (Kevin Williams)

One of Margot Grey's NDE research subjects stated:

During my experience ... I was also shown events that are likely to happen in the near future, but was made to understand that nothing is absolutely fixed and that everything depends on how we choose to use our own free will, that even those events that are already predestined can be changed or modified by a change in our own way of relating to them. (Grey, 1985, p. 123)

Rev. Howard Storm was given information on how the future is not fixed:

We have free will. If we change the way we are, then we can change the future which they showed me. They showed me a view of the future, at the time of my experience, based upon how we in the United States were behaving at that time. It was a future in which a massive worldwide depression would occur. If we were to change our behavior, however, then the future would be different. (Rev. Howard Storm)

Howard was also told how a single person can change the world:

All it takes to make a change was one person. One person, trying, and then because of that, another person changing for the better. They said that the only way to change the world was to begin with one person. One will become two, which will become three, and so on. That's the only way to affect a major change. (Rev. Howard Storm)

During Ricky Randolph's NDE, he was told virtually the same thing:

You must return and help others to change by changing your life! (Ricky Randolph)

Dannion Brinkley was told how the future is conditional upon human beings:

If you follow what you have been taught and keep living the same way you have lived the last thirty years, all of this will surely be upon you. If you change, you can avoid the coming war. If you follow this dogma, the world by the year 2004 will not be the same one you now know. But it can still be changed and you can help change it. (Dannion Brinkley)

Dannion was also told that the future is not cast in stone:

The flow of human events can be changed, but first people have to know what they are. (Dannion Brinkley)

Dannion gives the following advice on how people can change the world:

The quickest way to change the world is to be of service to others. Show that your love can make a difference in the lives of people and thereby someone else's love can make a difference in your life. By each of us doing that and working together we change the world one inner person at a time. (Dannion Brinkley)

During George Ritchie's NDE, Jesus said that Ritchie had 45 years to accomplish a particular mission:

It is left to humanity which direction they shall choose. I came to this planet to show you through the life I led how to love. Without our Father you can do nothing, neither could I. I showed you this. You have 45 years. (Dr. George Ritchie)

When Ritchie was revived, he had no idea what he was supposed to accomplish within 45 years. Years afterward, his NDE attracted the attention of Raymond Moody. It was Ritchie's NDE that inspired Moody to begin his ground-breaking research into NDEs and become of the father of the near-death experience. In 1985, Ritchie published his near-death account which was 42 years after his NDE occurred.

During Ned Dougherty's NDE, a Lady of Light told him how to change the world to prevent these catastrophic visions of the future from happening:

I was told that the world could be saved, not by its leaders, but by prayer groups throughout the world. I was told that the prayers of a group of twenty could save a nation from war. I was told that the fate of mankind rested on our ability, individually and collectively, to change the direction of mankind in accordance with God's plan ... Depending on mankind's response to God, these events may be altered, postponed, or cancelled. (Ned Dougherty)

One particular experiencer told NDE researcher Margot Grey that catastrophic Earth changes are a reflection of the social upheaval and violence that is happening all over the world at the moment. (Margot Grey)

Fulfilled NDE Prophecies Predicting the 9/11 Terrorist Attack

During his NDE, Ned Dougherty was given a vision of the future involving a terrorist attack. He wrote about it in his book, Fast Lane to Heaven, six months before 9/11 occurred. Here is what he wrote:

A major terrorist attack may befall New York City or Washington, DC, severely impacting the way we live in the United States. (Ned Dougherty)

This description of Ned Dougherty's vision of a future terrorist attack is a perfect description of what happened six months later in New York and Washington.

Dannion Brinkley received a psychic vision of the September 11th terrorist attack before it happened. On September 1st, ten days before the New York terrorist attacks, Dannion announced that the world is on the verge of a...

"... spiritual awakening which calls for deep self-examination." (Dannion Brinkley)

On September 1, 2001, Dannion Brinkley also called for a global Day of Truth to occur on September 17 where people could...

"... take time before this date to personally examine our own lives and priorities as citizens of Earth in this time of transition. This is a wake-up call ... For it is only as we are willing to see and to embrace all of our deeply human fragmented realities that the light of grace can shine upon us." (Dannion Brinkley)

Dannion Brinkley gave this announcement ten days before the September 11th terrorist attack. Something certainly provoked Dannion Brinkley to make this announcement.

Dr. PMH Atwater received a vision of the September 11th terrorist attacks which is documented in her free downloadable PDF file entitled The Challenge of September 11. (Dr. PMH Atwater)

NDE Visions of Future Catastrophes

In Howard Storm's book, My Descent into Death (2000), he describes the future of mankind as given to him by light beings he encountered during his NDE in 1985. Storm wrote how they told him, in 1985, that the Cold War would soon end, because "God is changing the hearts of people to love around the world." Storm states, "Since the time in 1985 when I was told these things about the future the Cold War ended with little bloodshed due to the hearts of people being unwilling to tolerate oppressive regimes."

Storm described what the light beings told him concerning the way things will be on Earth in about 2185. He asked the light beings the question: "Will the United States be the leader of the world in this change?" The light beings replied:

"The United States has been given the opportunity to be the teacher for the world, but much is expected of those to whom much has been given. The United States has been given more of everything than any country in the history of the world and it has failed to be generous with the gifts. If the United States continues to exploit the rest of the world by greedily consuming the world's resources, the United States will have God's blessing withdrawn. Your country will collapse economically which will result in civil chaos. Because of the greedy nature of the people, you will have people killing people for a cup of gasoline. The world will watch in horror as your country is obliterated by strife. The rest of the world will not intervene because they have been victims of your exploitation. They will welcome the annihilation of such selfish people. The United States must change immediately and become the teachers of goodness and generosity to the rest of the world. Today the United States is the primary merchant of war and the culture of violence that you export to the world. This will come to an end because you have the seeds of your own destruction within you. Either you will destroy yourselves or God will bring it to an end if there isn't a change."

Storm wrote, ".... I don't know if the richest country in the history of the world is doomed to lose God's blessing or if the people of the United States will become the moral light of the world. How long will God allow the injustice to continue? The future lies in the choices we make right now. God is intervening in direct ways in human events. May God's will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven!" (Rev. Howard Storm)

In a Spirit online newspaper article on August 18, 2003 by Michael H. Brown entitled Near-Death Prophecy: Man was shown Failure of Infrastructure, Power Grid, Reverend Howard Storm discussed America's future as shown to him during his NDE. He stated:

"They made it very clear to me that God had given this country the greatest blessing of any people in the history of the world. We have more of God's blessing. Everything that we have comes from God. We didn't deserve it, we didn't earn it, but we happen to be the wealthiest, most powerful nation in the world. And God gave us all this so that we could be the instruments of God's light in this world, and we are not instruments of light. In other countries people see us as purveyors of exploitation, military might, and pornography. They see us as completely hedonistic and amoral -- we have no morality. People can do whatever they want wherever they want with whatever they want. Our amorality is a cancer on the rest of the world, and God created us to be just the opposite.

"People get mad at me for saying it, but God is very unhappy with what we're doing. When I came back from the experience I was almost out of my mind trying to convert people. God wanted a worldwide conversion thousands of years ago. God pulled out all the stops 2,000 years ago with Jesus. From God's view, that was the definitive moment in human history. And the impact of the prophets and teachers and the Messiah has been a big disappointment to God because people have by and large rejected it. I was told that God wants this conversion. And if we don't get with the program fairly soon, He is going to have to intervene in some ways that from a human point of view are going to seem cataclysmic. God is really tired of what we're doing to one another and the planet and to His Creation. We were put in this world to be stewards and live in harmony with His creation and one another and we don't realize the important spiritual consequences of what we do when we raise a child in a faithless society."

"I asked how [America's purification] would come about, and they said it would be simple, that our society is very dependent on a lot of very fragile things -- energy grid, transportation. In each geographical area of the United States people used to be relatively self-sufficient as far as agricultural products. Now, how long would any state survive without the transport of food and energy?

"What would happen is these very complex and delicate grids of our economic system would begin to break down. We've created a society of such cruel and self-centered people that the very nature of civilization would begin to break down. The angels showed me that what would happen is that people would begin robbing the grocery stores, hording goods, and killing one another for gasoline and tires, and as a consequence everything would break down and would end up in chaos."

When Guenter Wagner was a child, he had a NDE during which Jesus had an extensive conversation with him about averting a nuclear war.

Jesus told Guenter that there were very powerful and cunning beings who were his enemies with whom he had been constantly fighting. He told Guenter to warn the world against them. Then Jesus told him to turn around. When he did he heard people screaming and saw fire and smoke that gradually took on the shape of a mushroom. Jesus told Guenter that he will do everything in his power to prevent this from happening.

Jesus told him that this war has been going on for a very long time and the evilbeings had become more and more powerful. Jesus said that if this continued he would not see any means of preventingthem from taking over everything. He said that if the enemy had really succeeded in coming into his world, thewar would have been lost. He would have been powerful enough, no doubt, to fight them off, but the war wouldhave been lost in the long run. Jesus was afraid of loosing this war. Then it was intimated to Guenter that Jesus needed help. Jesus told him that the only way he could help him was by going back and telling the world about his experience. (Guenter Wagner)

Almost every day, several times a day, for more than forty years, Edgar Cayce would induce himself into a unique out-of-body state identical to a NDE. Through his sojourns he would reveal profound information on various subjects. But it was the information that he revealed about the future that he is most known for. The following is an listing of his prophecies fulfilled and yet to be fulfilled:


That, my friends is one word that I personally cannot stand - and have worked hard to purge it from my vocabulary.   I have been wanting to get my thoughts on this down forever - hopefully to do my part in purging the word from our collective vocabularies.  I cringe when I hear it across a pulpit - not so much from others who really do not know better.  I believe it will fade away in the Millennial model as obsolete and a silly thing of the past. 

It comes from the root word luz which means light in my second language, Portuguese - and some have said there is a connection to "luz -ifer", or light bearer.  I think most anyone would have a hard time making the entymological connection on that one.

I used to hear repeatedly my Mission President, Helvecio Martins (who became the first black Quorum of the 70 just as I was leaving the Fortaleza, Brazil mission back in 1990 and actually helped him with his english pronunciations as he prepared to give his first General Conference address), that "No hay que sorte, somente bencoes"; or, "there is no such thing as luck, only blessings".  He was a big believer in hard work - as he had pulled himself up by the bootstraps from a waif on the streets of Rio de Janiero to one of the corporate heads of PetroBras, now a world player in the oil industry as that country's national oil company.

Truly, if we believe in the concept of luck, we negate all that the Plan of Salvation is built upon, which is personal sacrifice and hard work - combined with grace, as supplied by a loving Father through His Son's atonement.  The grace covering where we cannot after our best efforts of laying our offering on the altar, presentable before the Father.  The plan of the d'evil one relied upon the concept of "something for nothing" - you just get a free pass because you are you.  This is the major problem I have with religion that is not revealed; you thrive in that alternate plan of salvation because you are you, not because of any effort or striving on your part.  Basic laws of physics state that if you put no energy into something (of a telestial nature at least), it will fall to its lowest state of being.  Just try and not mow or weed your back yard all summer long and you will get the message.....  We have been put into this fallen state so that we can learn the concept of work and progress.  We only have the fruit of the efforts after we have passed the test of mortality and live in a higher order; but it takes work to get there.

So luck, while there may be no direct connection of the word to lucifer, there is indeed an indirect one to the plan that was rejected in the Councils of Heaven.  We are either a lazy and indolent "something for nothing", lucky people, or we have the correct perspective and understand the concept of qualifying for (through striving) and enjoying the blessings of a loving Father in Heaven.

Wednesday, October 24, 2012


I promised some folks a little piece on what I consider the ultimate bugout bike (who I like to call BOB, the newest member of the family...).

This is a Yamaha TW200.  It is the best because it has fat tires (ATV-style) that will go over most anything, a low clearance so a shorter guy/gal can still mount it and balance on it without being on tip-toes.  It has one of the smallest weights of a production bike out there, it gets 70-90mpg, is air cooled, has electric start and a conventional kick-start, is road worthy (licensable), can haul two to three (smaller) people, such as one adult and two kids, and is just plain all around a great bike.

I found a great rack for it at (on e-Bay), mounted an ATV trunk on the back of it from Rocky Mountain ATV (free shipping) and another four gallon tank on the back.  You can get a 2.8 gallon Clarke aftermarket saddle tank for the bike, but I wanted an approx 500 mile range on it, so I opted out and got the red detachable tank.  It can be jettisoned when empty in a pinch.  On my wish list is a front rack from and another 5 gallons of fuel to help balance the rig out front to rear.  Why all the hubbub, expense and time on something like this?

The time will come when fuel is a premium, the roads in the West will be broken up and you will have options like this, or hoofing it.  I will have alot of ground to cover if I am caught off guard and decided this was my best option.  If the roads are clogged as they often are in disasters, you will find a machine that allows you to skirt those lines of cars on the shoulder, or to pick your way thru a rock slide is the best option.

In the meantime, this makes a great hunting vehicle when the trunk is filled with a tent, a sleeping bag, cold weather food, some good dehydrated meals and a stove that runs on diesel or what you have in your red can.  Also, a Costco cookie tin filled with the electronic components for this simple bike for that EMP contingency that I swear is coming at some point - probably around the time Romney drops the hammer and attacks Iran.

So, there you have it.  I introduce to you BOB:


Wow, I would love to find out more about this (from LDSFF):

This thread reminds me of something that I noticed a few years ago, but had not though of lately. Around the year 2005 I was teaching art classes in an elementary school. That year was an unusual school year in that some of my classes had very disproportioned boy to girl ratios. The numbers were extreme, for example in one class there were 14 boys to 4 girls. Some of the other teachers were noticing the same thing in their classes. One of the teachers had remarked that sometimes before a great war more boys than girls were born. I remembered thinking that it was really odd. These children would now be around the age of 15. I'm not sure if it means anything at all, but it did seem odd.

The preschool class my 4 yr old attends has 10 boys and 2 girls.


Let me state here what has been said in the past about what is coming:

That is one of several reliable sources that talk about this race rioting that will occur. Here are a few others - the main one from the "White Horse prophecy" - which I challenge anyone to debunk as it has played out to this point.  The others talk of this Second Civil War and probably relate to the great influx of people who will flood to the mountains causing a massive spike in the numbers within the Church that is soon to come.  I pulled all this from the archives of the site:

While the terrible things of which I have mentioned are going on, England will be neutral until it becomes so inhuman that she will interfere to stop the shedding of blood and history will be more properly understood. England and France will unite together to make peace, not to subdue the nations. She will find this nation so broken up and so many claiming government, till there will be no reasonable government. Then it will appear to the other nations, or powers, as though England had taken possession of the country. The Black Horse will flee to the invaders and will join them for they have fear of becoming slaves again; knowing that England did not believe in slavery, they will flee to them that they believe will make them safe. Armed with British bayonets, the doings of the Black Horse will be terrible." Here the Prophet said that he could not bear to look longer upon the scenes as shown to him in vision and he asked the Lord to close the scenes.
"Our nation ... is rent, from center to circumference, with party strife, political intrigues, and sectional interest; ... our merchants are paralyzed, our tradesmen are disheartened, our ... credit ruined, and our states overwhelmed in debt," --Joseph Smith

And what about this letter written to someone regarding the topic they discussed with Joseph Smith
Second Great Rebellion (Chicago) Quote

A. Milton Musser papers, LDS Church Archives. It is a letter from
Nephi Packard to A. Milton Musser on July 24, 1896:

"... My brother, Noah Packard, says that he heard the Prophet Joseph
say that the next great (U.S. civil) war after the war of the
rebellion (the Civil War of the 1860's between the North and the
South) would commence in a little town now called Chicago but at that
time it would have grown to be a very large city. And another brother
told me that the Prophet said that the cause of the next great trouble
of the United States would be the depreciation of the currency of the
United States. I believe I have given you all the facts in as short
and concise manner as possible."

Another quote regarding the Civil War itself comes from an interview
by Dr. Poulson with David Whitmer, printed in the Deseret News on
Friday, August 16, 1878:

Question: When will the temple be built in Independence?

Answer: Right after the great tribulation is over

Question: What do you mean by that?

Answer: A civil war more bloody and cruel than the rebellion. It will
be the smashing up of this nation, about which time the second great
work has to be done, a work like Joseph did, and the translation of
the sealed plates and peace all over

Obama Supporters Continue Threats To Riot, Assassinate Romney

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Secret Service attention fails to dampen violent Twitter comments
Paul Joseph Watson
October 23, 2012
Despite the issue garnering a significant amount of media interest as well as the attention of the Secret Service, Obama supporters continued their threats to riot and assassinate Mitt Romney if Obama loses in the aftermath of last night’s presidential debate.
As we reported last week, Twitter has been flooded recently with violent comments from Obama supporters. The increase in volume of the comments seemed to coincide with Romney’s poll numbers edging higher against Obama.
Not only have Obama voters been making open threats that they will riot and cause mayhem, they have also been caught making direct threats to assassinate Mitt Romney, prompting the Secret Service to announce that it was “aware” of the threats and would “conduct appropriate follow up if necessary.”
Despite the fact that the media reported extensively on threats made against Obama prior to the 2008 election, their silence on the threats made against Romney has been deafening. Indeed, the act of a few old guys hanging up empty chairs in reference to Clint Eastwood’s RNC speech garnered substantially more coverage and concern from the press compared to hundreds if not thousands of tweets threatening violence against Mitt Romney.
Americans who simply display political signs expressing opposition to Obama’s policies have been treated as potential violent threats by authorities in the past, and yet not a single Twitter user has faced retribution for making direct and sometimes graphic death threats against Romney.
Leftists routinely cry foul and attempt to demonize conservatives as violent extremists whenever online rhetoric gets heated, and yet when their own engage in even worse conduct, their behavior is absolved and the media is disinterested.
Before the Secret Service announced they were investigating the threats, Obama front group Think Progress attempted to imply that the whole story was somehow a racist contrivance dreamed up by the Drudge Report and Infowars.
Here are just a selection of tweets from Obama supporters threatening riots and violence during and after last night’s foreign policy debate. There are too many to reprint in full.
If the Secret Service does plan on following this up, they are going to be very busy indeed.

All of this has to come about to fulfill prophecy.  Romney will win causing the problems to boil over - apparently starting in Chicago - in the land of Obama......  If this does not come about by the third year of Pres Romney's presidency, I will personally chew on my headcovering......