A comment/question
on a previous blog piece. I love
sincere, thoughtful questions:
I notice you have the two prophets
being killed this fall. The scriptures say before this happens, they hold off
the armies for 3 1/2 years...so do you believe they have already been there,
holding off the destruction for 3 years? Seems like the 200, 000, 000 army that
is supposed to be amassed for the big battle haven't quite assembled
yet, although things do seem to be lining up with people getting into position.
This was a legitimate question – and I have asked it MANY
times myself. I will say this. There are perceptions of how it is supposed
to be – and there is the reality of how it happens when it comes to the
prophetic word. For example, the Lord
said that the gospel would go to every nation, kindred, tongue and people. And then the end comes. Many people say there is no way the end is
near because of places like China or even Israel that have not gotten it wholesale
(just in bits and pieces). Heck – even Russia
has barely been given a chance, and the place is crawling with the House of
Israel. With that statement about it
going to every nation, kindred tongue and people, we would get the warm fuzzy
of seeing two Elders or Sisters calling on every door of every hamlet and
village across an entire nation. Not
sure if that is the picture the Lord had in mind. It might be ideal – but never close to
reality.
My picture of the two Prophets has always been: two guys in beards, maybe with a staff
sitting in a cool cave while 200,0000,000 soldiers are sitting with all their
equipment within miles of them – and not able to pass to get on to their goal
of Jerusalem. Each time they attempt,
fire is called down from heaven and the column of soldiers is stopped in their
tracks. Finally, they get a bee in their
bonnet and over-run the two guys and take them out. Then wipe out a bunch of Jerusalem and then
start a monster party – then destruction with fire coming from the hand of God.
Probably about 90% of the above scenario is probably LDS
culture mingled with some scriptural backing and a good imagination. I actually like that Jewish boy’s take on the scenario. Lots of fighting among the people off site for
a period of time – then an event which gets everyone on the same page (a nuke
fired at Israel that they retaliate for?? or the knocking down of the Dome of
the Rock) and the whole mess (probably UN-backed) heads for Jerusalem to kick
some butt and avenge the wrong.
As far as the Prophets go, there were two LDS general
authorities quietly called to oversee the area just over three years ago. High Priests.
No staff – no beards. No
cave. No direct conflict with a massive
army – but no one has really molested Israel in those 3.5 years since the A/C
ascended TM and caused the sacrifice to cease.
Things are brewing – all nations (whose armies and reserves may well
number in the 200,000,000 range) are assembled just to the north of Israel. According to Natan, it takes just a matter of
weeks before they all move south and do a number on the IDF and move into
Jerusalem. You have to remember, Syria
is not days or weeks away – it is hours north.
Most of those troops as far away as Ankara could be moved into position
in a few short days. We are not talking
about a 3 to 6 month set-up like they were dealing with in Desert Storm. It would be quick. It may be that the whole ISIS thing is a
smoke screen in order to have the amassing there and ready to take the real
prize of Jerusalem. Then you just create
a crisis (which CNN will pump throughout the world) and be there to “solve” the
problem. How convenient. Just as there is a major drill right before
every major false flag in the USA (crisis actors and equipment already in place
and ready to go for the event without drawing undue attention), they already
have their stuff in place for a bait and switch rapid attack that the IDF will
not be able to anticipate nor man up for.
It is actually quite a good tactic – on par with the Trojan Horse
ruse. All they need is a crisis that Joe
Public will buy into to shout at the tv screen “Death to Israel” – and you have
set the noose. Actually, I could not
plan it better myself for a nearly bloodless takeover of Israel. This IS satan’s prize. he has been trying to wipe God’s chosen
people off the map for millennia. Now
they are all gathered in one place and it will be a turkey shoot. hitler himself could not be more pleased about
a set up like that.
Like with all arrogant people who cannot see beyond the end
of their own nose, they will also miss the fact that they are all also
corralled and in a perfect place for God to wipe the armies of the earth out in
one fell swoop. Those that have lived by
the sword – shall die by the sword. And
the millennium can then get off to an otherwise less rocky start. War mongering men and material all reduced to
smoldering ruins. The wicked in the USA,
also gathered in upstate NY for their final demise – like has happened twice
before. Same principles and final swan
song – just different actors and weapon systems.
Neat and tidy – and on a tidy schedule. Just the way God usually does things. Us arrogant humans are so predictable – and pitiful
in our attitudes as we justify our behaviors at the expense of a belief in
God. Oh, the foolishness of man (can you
tell I just got a nice “correcting” for my juvenile belief in a fairy-tale
God?). Sheesh – engineers are the worst
for discrediting things they cannot see nor feel. Sadly, there will be nothing but stuttering
and back-pedaling as years of incorrect thinking are put into a tailspin as
they realize they are still “there” – just not with their bodies, after death
changes their state of being. It will be
a revelation.
I have thoroughly enjoyed this blog series, but have to disagree with your thoughts on the two prophets being LDS General Authorities. These prophets will come from the House of Israel and be recognized as one of their faith, who God will raise up among them.
ReplyDeleteThe following verses in 2 Nephi 8 have always led me to believe that they would come from outside of the nation (political) of Israel.
Delete18 And none to guide her among all the sons she hath brought forth; neither that taketh her by the hand, of all the sons she hath brought up.
19 These two sons are come unto thee, who shall be sorry for thee—thy desolation and destruction, and the famine and the sword—and by whom shall I comfort thee?
20 Thy sons have fainted, save these two; they lie at the head of all the streets; as a wild bull in a net, they are full of the fury of the Lord, the rebuke of thy God.
Spencer also mentions then potentially being members of the Quorum of the Twelve: "It was at this time that two prophets were called in Zion to go and alter the course of the Jewish people. I knew who they were at the time, but I have not retained that memory. I believe they were members of the Quorum of the Twelve who were then serving in Zion... They left with great courage, knowing their task was pivotal and that it would cost them their lives."
DeleteThe prophecy of the gospel being preached to every nation, kindred etc. has been fulfilled according to President Faust. Rev. 14:6 "And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people." In the April, 2006 Gen Conf, Pres. Faust quoted this scripture and said, "This prophecy has been fulfilled." It is in his talk entitled, "The Restoration of All Things."
ReplyDeleteMakes me wonder how many other prophecies have been fulfilled without our being aware.
ReplyDelete"can you tell I just got a nice “correcting” for my juvenile belief in a fairy-tale God?"
ReplyDeleteIt's a pity that science now proves God, eh?
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/89552571 starting at 2:25:00
The problem with President Fausts' declaration is that this part comes AFTER the Lord stands on Mt Sion with his 144,000. See Rev 14:1.
ReplyDeleteI don't think that has happened quite yet.