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Sunday, January 3, 2016

LINCOLN AND THE MORMON QUESTION

This piece is part journal - part history:


My daughter and I were talking this morning.  She asked which President was my favorite.  Other than Washington (always the right answer), I said it would be Ronald Reagan.  Just as President Benson was "my Prophet" growing up, so Reagan was "my President". 

We had an awesome band with a yearly budget of $1 million dollars (the band boosters actually ran a bingo hall that was wildly successful with the Canadians coming down to take advantage), so we had whatever we wanted.  My sophomore year, we played at a Reagan rally in Seattle.  From that, we were invited to play at the Inaugural Parade in DC.  We chartered a 767 and flew the whole crew out there.  We had a semi that left a week before for our ground support with all the equipment.  We also had our own used greyhounds for the local trips.  It was quite the operation.  It was a great time to be alive - and in that organization.  I was the fastest kid in the high school as well as one of the bigger kids and was heavily recruited to be a receiver or safety on the football team, though my mother forbade it on the grounds that I might end up paralyzed.  We went to state in football - but it was still cooler to play in the band at the half-time show than to be on the field playing football the rest of the time.  We usually took most competitions - even if we went out of state.  I remember this little potent band from McGrath, Alberta stealing alot of our hardware when there was a competition in eastern Washington - and I always bring that up with people about my age that I meet from that little town.  Small place - a lot of heart......

Anyway - I loved Reagan, politics and persona.  The whole enchilada.  My daughter asked what about Lincoln.  My answer was that he was not super Mormon-friendly - and I mention here that it was from that presidency forward that states' rights were buried and a pervasive sense of Federalism has reigned since then (in opposition to the Millennial model of local control, centrality of the family  and auto-destination - or full agency and personal accountability - that the return of the Patriarchal Order will bring).  Here is something I found from the NYTimes (an opinion blog):

Fascinatingly, Joseph Smith had prophesied in 1832 that an immense civil war would someday transform America, and that it would start in South Carolina.
On Oct. 20, 1861, a vital piece of the Utah puzzle was solved, as the final lines of a telegraph were strung together, linking the
Atlantic seaboard to the Pacific, through an office in Salt Lake City. On that auspicious occasion, which spoke so loudly of union, Brigham Young remarked,“Utah has not seceded, but is firm for the Constitution and laws of our once happy country.” Those were words guaranteed to warm Lincoln’s heart. Two days later, more good news, as General J. Arlington Bennett wrote him to ask if he could recruit 1,000-10,000 Mormons to fight for the Union.
But the question was far from solved, and on Nov. 18, Lincoln attacked the Mormon question in a most Lincolnian way. Instead of ordering an invasion, Lincoln ordered information. Specifically, he asked the Library of Congress to send him a pile of books about Mormonism, so that the aggregator-in-chief could better understand them. These included “The Book of Mormon” in its original 1831 edition, and three other early studies of the Mormons, with extensive, lurid chapters covering their polygamy. For some reason, he also ordered a volume of Victor Hugo, in French, a language he could not read.
Fortified by his reading, Lincoln came to a great decision. And that decision was to do nothing. Sometimes that, too, can be a form of leadership — what Churchill called “a masterly inactivity.”
Typically, Lincoln reached his decision through a homely parable, told to a Mormon emissary:
When I was a boy on the farm in Illinois there was a great deal of timber on the farm which we had to clear away. Occasionally we would come to a log which had fallen down. It was too hard to split, too wet to burn, and too heavy to move, so we plowed around it. You go back and tell Brigham Young that if he will let me alone I will let him alone.
That parable is about as much as we will get in the way of a formal explanation, but it is enough. To his generous store of common sense, we might also add the freshness of Lincoln’s memories of the bloodshed at Nauvoo in 1844, when angry mobs had killed the Mormon leaders, with elected officials standing by and doing nothing. And the centrality of Utah to the grand vision of a transcontinental republic, embraced fully by America’s most western president to date.

The U.S.-Mormon relationship never was perfect. Throughout the Civil War, it was tested on both sides. A Republican Congressman, Justin Morrill of Vermont, introduced legislation banning polygamy in Utah in 1862. Lincoln signed it, but in another sign of masterly inactivity, did not choose to enforce it. Tensions flared up between the U.S. army (stationed around Salt Lake City to protect the telegraph and stage lines) and the locals in 1863. Nor were the Mormons exactly model citizens. Throughout the war, when they referred to “the president,” they usually meant Brigham Young, and the not-quite-legal state of Deseret continued to hold meetings of its officers until 1870.

4 comments:

  1. Iraq...thanks for all the great info!! I listened to the fireside David Warwick gave from the URL you posted. There was supposed to be a follow-up fireside. Do you know where we can hear that???

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  2. If the government really wanted to avoid a civil war, they could have legally purchased the freedom of the slaves through the sale of newly acquired land in the new states and territories as Joseph Smith had put forth, but they likely did not want to enrich the southerners considering the rivalry between the north and south. Such a solution would have defused such an emotionally charged issuer I never once read any such proposition, because it wasn't really about slavery initially. It was about obliterating states rights and further empowering the federal government.
    It was the first time the central government had come against it's own citizens by force and coercion, eventually making it about slavery to gain popular support.

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  4. Good heavens people. Get your facts straight! It was about states rights to OWN SLAVES. A tidbit that always seems to get left out. The coming civil war "it will arise over the slave question" as the prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. prophesied.

    As far as knocking Lincoln, he is now a member of THE Church. A priesthood holder up there on our side. His temple work was done by a prophet of God at the behest of God. To speak ill of the Lord's anointed is a NO NO!

    Abraham Lincoln wasn't perfect, as no one but Jesus Christ was, but the Lord our God raised him up for a wise purpose and that purpose was fulfilled and then ended in a most horrific manner if you'll recall. Freedom had to reign supreme in the land of Liberty and Abraham Lincoln was the impetus for it with God's help Whom Lincoln daily depended upon and acknowledged.

    To be president of the fledgling United States at such a time needed a man with a mind like Abraham Lincoln's. I, for one, can't wait to meet President Lincoln and thank him and give him a big hug for serving our country and for being so brave. There are many many stories of his kind deeds. He was and is a true patriot and that can never be taken away from him.

    There are pictures of Ronald Regan yucking it up at Bohemian Grove. Nice. WHY would such a man of honor be found in such a place? You know, the place where Richard Nixon said he wouldn't shake hands with anyone due to the homosexual activity that prevails there along with the satanic worship. I'm from the Reagan era too and the facts speak for themselves. I adored the bejeebers out of Reagan. Those photos shattered that adoration.

    Anyone ever listened to "Glory Days" by Bruce Springsteen? It goes great with part of this post.

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