THE WOOD ZONE: GUNS AND VIOLENCE BEFORE THE MILLENNIAL REIGN

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THIS BLOG IS AN ATTEMPT TO PUT ALL THE COOL STUFF THAT I BUMP INTO ABOUT THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST AND EVENTS THAT LEAD UP TO IT INTO ONE LOCATION.
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Saturday, December 22, 2012

GUNS AND VIOLENCE BEFORE THE MILLENNIAL REIGN

I see WAY too many naive and unformed opinions among Church membership regarding use of weapons.

We are commanded to protect our families. In a telestial world, that is a sad reality for us to deal with.

Alma 43:47
And again, the Lord has said that: Ye shall defend your families even unto bloodshed. Therefore for this cause were the Nephites contending with the Lamanites, to defend themselves, and their families, and their lands, their country, and their rights, and their religion.

Here is an opinion I gave on LDSFF on the matter:

T____, I hope you are not offended when I say that it is naive to believe that guns will not be necessary in a telestial world whose leaders reign with blood and horror on the face of this earth. ONCE we are in holy Zion, then we will have no need for them, for we shall be terrible as an army with banners. Until we get to that point, he/she who is without some form of protection will be sorely in want. I would defer to the book, Visions of Glory and say no more. If you choose not to defend your family as God has commanded (other than with the butcher knife), that is your prerogative - as you have agency in everything.

After Zion, comes the great model of peace and safety - where a cloud by day and a pillar by night is our defense.

Doctrine and Covenants 45:
67 And the glory of the Lord shall be there, and the terror of the Lord also shall be there, insomuch that the wicked will not come unto it, and it shall be called Zion.
68 And it shall come to pass among the wicked, that every man that will not take his sword against his neighbor must needs flee unto Zion for safety.

We should never DESIRE to harm another (although I have to say I would love a few people to try and pick a fight with me so I could do us all a favor..... IF we seek to do violence, we are no better than the wicked and will be swept away with them. My goal is to stay out of the way and let the wicked kill the wicked. If I get caught up in it, I plan to use full force; with the Book of Mormon as my ideal and how-to manual. At the very least, I shall hide behind it in my defense during the judgment if I have to justify use of force against another of God's children in defense of those over whom I have stewardship.

1 comment:

AnonymousDecember 26, 2012 at 7:07 PM
Interesting how you posted so much on the book Visions of Glory, yet failed to see what Spencer described in so much detail. The Zion he described did not need guns. They used priesthood and were protected by the power of God.

Guns are an extension of the arm of flesh. While God has permitted men to defend themselves via these means in the past, Zion represents a divine order and departure from the world. Telestial means will not be used to create a celestial society.
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WHY SHOULD WE STUDY THE HIDDEN THINGS RELATED TO THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST?

But the Latter-day Saints are not in darkness; they are the children of light, although many of us will actually be asleep. We shall have to wake up and trim up our lamps, or we shall not be prepared to enter in; for we shall all slumber and sleep in that day, and some will have gone to sleep from which they will not awake until they awake up in darkness without any oil in their lamps. But, as a general thing, the Saints will understand the signs of the times. Others have their eyes closed upon the prophecies of the ancient Prophets; and not only that, but they are void of the spirit of prophecy themselves. When a man has this, though he may appeal to ancient Prophets to get understanding on some subjects he does not clearly understand, yet, as he has the spirit of prophecy in himself, he will not be in darkness; he will have a knowledge of the signs of the times; he will have a knowledge of the house of Israel, and of Zion, of the ten tribes and of many things and purposes and events that are to take place on the earth; and he will see coming events, and can say such an event will take place, and after that another, and then another; and after that the trumpet shall sound, and after that certain things will take place, and then another trump shall sound, &c., &c.; and he will have his eye fixed on the signs of the times, and that day will not overtake him unawares.

JD, O PRATT 7:190

JOSEPH SMITH SAID THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING AND WAITING, WILL KNOW THE HOUR:

"Christ says no man knoweth the day or the hour when the Son of Man cometh. This is a sweeping argument for sectarianism against Latter day ism. Did Christ speak this as a general principle throughout all generations Oh no he spoke in the present tense no man that was then liveing upon the footstool of God knew the day or the hour But he did not say that there was no man throughout all generations that should not know the day or the hour. No for this would be in flat contradiction with other scripture for the prophet says that God will do nothing but what he will reveal unto his Servants the prophets consequently if it is not made known to the Prophets it will not come to pass; again we find Paul 1st of Thesslonians 5th Chapter expressly points out the characters who shall not know the day nor the hour when the Son of Man cometh for says he it will come upon them as the theif or unawares. Who are they they are the children of darkness or night. But to the Saints he says yea are not of the night nor of darkness of that that day should come upon you unawares. John the revelator says 14 chap 7th verse that the hour of his judgements is come they are precursers or forerunners of the comeing of Christ. read Matthew 24 Chap and all the Prophets. He says then shall they see the Sign of the comeing of the Son of Man in the clouds of Heaven. How are we to see it Ans. As the lighting up of the morning or the dawning of the morning cometh from the east and shineth unto the west—So also is the comeing of the Son of Man. The dawning of the morning makes its appearance in the east and moves along gradualy so also will the comeing of the Son of Man be. it will be small at its first appearance and gradually becomes larger untill every eye shall see it. Shall the Saints understand it Oh yes. Paul says so. Shall the wicked understand Oh no they attribute it to a natural cause. They will probably suppose it is two great comets comeing in contact with each other It will be small at first and will grow larger and larger untill it will be all in a blaze so that every eye shall see it." (Joseph Smith, General Conference, April 6, 1843