Were it not for this broad net, I would not have almost any relevant data for the blog - because there is a famine in the land of prophetic utterance. The Church today is not the same Church of 1832 - where this type of thing was the rule, and not the exception. The general membership is grossly wicked, though. This famine, however, is the reason most people come to this blog. They sense all is not well in Zion, nor in the Promised Land (USA) - and they are looking for answers. They read the scrips, hear what the rank and file leaders are saying and there is some cognitive disconnect in their minds (and spirits). When many are crying peace and saying all is well - and the dust clouds from the approaching armies are visible on the horizon - there is a great sense of dread and confusion by the average citizen of Zion. Where are the sounds of the trumpets blaring - calling all able bodied to arms? Many are in a panicked state. When I hear the grating sound of my leadership calling me to repentance and saying we are in a world of hurt - just as I heard in my younger years with ETB - I feel like someone has my back and is doing the heavy lifting. When I hear "peace in our day" as the British did from Chamberlain - while knowing one of the most evil sacks was openly talking of the complete change of the world order of the day - that is a dread-inducing realization......
Here is what I wrote back to the person who turned me onto the previous information:
I remember you and your husband well. I guess I was being overprotective when I was trying to vet you out when you approached me about a spot at the "Conference". I am always worried someone who is hostile will crash the party instead of just politely leaving if they did not agree with the material. So, when I realized you were a "friendly" and more preparedness-minded than I am, I was kind of laughing at myself. I have found that the more I tell people that "all is not well in Zion", the more hostile I am treated. I begin to understand what Lehi, Samuel (the Lamanite) and others came up against when they sounded the alarm. Hope the last month of your pregnancy is going smoothly.The more outspoken I am, the more heat people apply if something is not perfectly above board. Jesus had many people who "sought occasion against him" - he, of course, was quite the lightning rod back in the day. I have a few schills who have been stalking the blog looking for any detail they can find "offensive". Not sure if they are paid or just hobbyist schills. When Denver Snuffer began stating the same thing I found (that the Book of Mormon was written for us - members of the Church and 2 Nephi 28-31 was a smack down of the general membership of the Church - and not a random stab at the world), the schills suddenly started showing up and shooting him down. That one eventually landed him in a disciplinary council when he started taking pot shots at SL.
Glad you sent that to me. I like virtually any different perspective - and then rely on the Spirit to filter out the stuff that does not work.
I have to say though, I am taking a bath on the author of that article - people calling her out as apostate.
I am leaving it up, though - it is interesting that she arrived at about the same date as many others have. The premise of the blog is that I throw the stuff out there and let the people decide whether it is worthy of wasting their time on. I do not hold it out there as doctrine, only that it MUST NOT contradict the existing doctrinal set - and it must match my world view - or it gets tossed. This includes commentary. If this blog were just another vanilla perspective, it would be just another blog. When cooking, I like to heavily spice my food. My wife usually cooks, I usually show up at the end if busy, and spice the heck out of the dish. My kids love me in the kitchen for that reason. When I write and think about stuff, it is usually pretty spicy. I cannot stand a weak, watery gruel. Meat and potatoes for me..... Doctrinally and at the dinner table.
I think this will be my blog piece for the day.
2 Nephi 28 - 31 is not referring to the LDS church. It's aimed at apostate Christianity. The "marvelous work" is the LDS church.
ReplyDeleteIf your judgment tells you something different--breaking even from the Brethren on this--I'm forced to question your judgment across the board.
I love how everyone is so blind to the fact that yes they could actually be wrong. I have also suffered from this disease. Anyway this person is stating that there is no way that this chapter could include the LDS church or be aimed at the LDS church, or faith whatever. However in the 11th verse of this chapter it says ALL the churches have gone astray. I don't think it said all but this one. Where I come from all means ALL.
DeleteI seriously questions this persons judgment across the board!
Keep posting Iraq I love this blog. And I don't question your judgment. I do take everything posted on here and study it out for myself though. I would never just take another mans advice or commentary as being scripture, or doctrine unless the spirit confirms it.
Hey, I don't know how many others were soaking you with their comments on the blood moon thing or if it was just me. You only posted one of how many. Like I said before, I found that information to be quite interesting. I wanted to know more about the original author's perspective and found some pretty weird, shocking views. I am definitely not one of your schills. I am the emergency prep specialist in my ward. People think I am crazy for spending as much time as I do on family history. I am getting ready to pull my kids out of public school and start home schooling. I have a gigantic garden. Believe me, I already get a ton of eye-rolling. I am made fun, to my face and behind my back. I have things in my PB about the future that I am finally beginning to understand. I have made several comments on your blog which you have posted. I love your blog! I just wish I had known before hand before my very curious self went wandering that the facebooker/blogger was "a little out there." There are no hard feelings on my part.
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting how even my gentile friends, who choose not to have anything to do with "religion" - especially of the LDS flavor, are sensing that things are not like they used to be. Several have postulated that civil war or foreign military incursions onto the mainland are close at hand. I do hope that major catastrophe can be avoided by major societal repentance; then I look at the ever increasing narcissism of my inmates that are entering the prison where I currently work. A broader swath of educational and socioeconomic backgrounds are being represented in the criminal class then ever before. But, there are those who notice that I am different and will ask if I'm a Christian. Sometimes it is possible to stand as a witness of Christ while standing in the midst of hell.
ReplyDeletejust wondering if you've seen this : http://www.latterdayconservative.com/w-cleon-skousen/what-we-might-expect-in-the-next-twenty-five-years/
ReplyDeleteToday in this age we aer more focused on the person or personality than on the messages that they present. That is a weakness of the natural man...we are always willing to agree on ANYTHING that might be presented to us by our friends, but when one of our adversaries speaks we are equally willing to find some defect in said adversary and ignore the message completely no matter how truthful it may be.
ReplyDeleteThat is something which I have had to learn the hard way in my ward. There are people in the ward that simply do not like the family of my wife, simply because of jealousy. Even so, when they teach with the Spirit, they still teach well, just as anybody is capable of teaching a correct principle no matter how bad they are or may have been.
Even the Gospel of John showed a bit of inspiration in Caiaphas who was about to martyr Jesus Christ, when he said that one must perish for the nation to be saved. Of course Caiaphas was not thinking that but he said a correct principle concerning the Atonement: That One must sacrifice so that the posterity of God might be saved.
Even Obama has said a good thing every now and then. It got the attention of President Uchtdorf that said basically that he supports Obama's immigration plan.
We want to shoot the messenger, rather than hear the messenger in order to see if he or she is preaching anything truthful. If we are to progress as a Zion society that mentality must cease amongst the members.
To the first Anon post, believe it or not those passages refer just as much if not more to the LDS Church members as the apostates in general. Boyd K. Packer talked about the Gentiles being US...and not so much the apostate groups. The cleansing will begin among members of the Church that have done precisely what 2 Nephi 27-30 tell us NOT to do. They blaspheme Him in the midst of his house. They go after strange doctrines which the Lord never commissioned to be taught. They deviate from the norms which God has set.
I don't agree with everything that the blog owner posts, but there have been a few posts of his which I considered to be out of whack, but after investigating the posts a little bit further, I found that it was perhaps my own prejudices about the people more so than the message that they were presenting.
Ask Pastor Hagee what he thinks of Mormonism and he will probably tell you that Mormonism is a non-Christian cult. Ask him however about what he thinks about the blood moons for example and his opinion will align more closely with mine and with the blog owner's. In one thing, he preaches a falsehood, in others he preaches a truth.
Use the Spirit. You have the gift of discernment as do we all. Don't shoot the messenger, listen to the message. Examine everything and keep the good. Don't eschew everything, because you would be rejecting the message for a small thing, which the Book of Mormon categorically tells you not to do.
So again, don't shoot the messenger. listen to the message and compare it with what you do know. Investigate of its truthfulness, and if a small part be true, cling to that truth.
I'm pretty sure Pasor Hagee and Glen Beck are good buddies. I highly doubt Hagee thinks Mormons are a non-Christian cult. Just my 2 cents ;)
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