MY TAKE ON SNUFFER GETTING SNUFFED.....

I bet the court has convened right about now.  No one should ever take glee in someone else's difficulty.  I think Denver has some amazing things to say - but I also have some fundamental differences with what he began to say towards the end of his "ministry".  Those same things put me at odds with most folks on LDSFF and I began pulling the "apostate card" and shredding many on that forum for stating that the current Brethren were out of the way, while the apostates with their views had it right.  I turned the argument over to the Lord and the Spirit told me after the last General Conference whom I should tell to go pound sand.  I was tossed off the LDSFF wagon shortly after that.  I also was able to detect at the same time, a false spirit about Doug Mendenhall and called him out, for which I still get some "hater" comments on this blog for.  I publish them for amusement.  Doug Mendenhall apparently would run his stuff past Denver Snuffer (as a sounding board).  Both have gotten off track - in my opinion.....  Mendenhall may well end up in the same dire straits as Denver as time goes on.

So anyway, if I was reading Denver right, he began to say that the train got off the tracks when Brigham Young went west with the Saints - and basically, if I am reading the LDSFF apostates correctly, this jumping of the tracks occurred when Brigham Young began to (my words - "consume it upon his lusts" and) practice polygamy against anything that Joseph taught.  If I were a betting man, I would say many of the apostates on LDSFF are some breed of Community of Christ groupies that were disaffected with the p-hood being given to women and who are attempting to recruit confused LDS or some such a matter.  That is where their doctrinal base seems to be coming from.  Or, they are simply UIDOFA (Under the Influence of the Devil Or Fallen Angels).

Folks, miracles have largely ceased within the Church, as Denver states.  That is a correct statement, in my opinion.  I read Mormon's warning in Mormon Ch 8 yesterday - but in the contemporary Church, this is due to lack of faith and general wickedness - and not due to train jumping the tracks in 1844 when Brigham became the leader.   The Church was rife with miracles in the 1800's, but generally ceased when the people rejected polygamy and higher ordinances at the end of the century.  If Brigham were a fallen prophet, fueled by sexual fantasy, many of the things he did and was guided to do, simply would not have happened.  My ancestors, who were part of the polygamous realm, simply would not have enjoyed the gifts of the Spirit that they enjoyed in that day - had they been engaging in egregious sin.  It simply NEVER would have happened.

The flip side to that is that we do not enjoy those experiences today to the level that they did back in the day.  When we obey with exactness, we reap the benefits of that obedience - and the signs follow as an affirmation that we are on the correct path.  We, for going through what we will be called to endure, will reap great miracles in the near future as we regain that former glory and strength.  By force of circumstance, we will be called to live the law as laid down in Section 132 as seven women take hold of the extremely scarce resource of men in that day after the plagues, the wars, the scourging, the general devastation is over.  At that point, those who remain will be living the second commandment in perfectness - we will desire that our neighbor have what we have - even over our own selfish inclinations.  The desire to have more than another will be vanquished and we, in our extremity, will simply desire that our neighbor enjoys the same comforts as we have been afforded.  The "Joneses" will be a thing of the past.  The highest order of consecration (plural marriage) will be a natural thing in the scheme of things.

Where baser division, pride and envy would not allow the elevated sharing, consecration, giving to occur; extremity, need, being stripped, broken, molded, shaped will bring each survivor to a place where God can make them into a terrestrial being, and a limited harvest of celestial beings will emerge.  A good harvest indeed for the patient husbandman who is the author of our salvation.

So, I part company with Snuffer (and many readers of this blog) in his theological musings.  I think Brother Brigham was certainly imperfect as a mere mortal - but I do not consider him one who has departed the way.  I believe the proof is in the pudding.  I notice patterns - and the Church, if it has come under condemnation - did so after the people proved they were not capable of living a terrestrial order AFTER 1890.  The best blood in the Church was squirreled away in Southern Alberta and other areas where it was driven when the Church was heavily persecuted in the late 1800's.  It was AFTER the people were faithless and gave up the fight that our opposition truly stopped.  That detail is telling.  As we prove ourselves even MORE faithless with this "gay marriage" mess that the anti-Christ is foisting on us, our persecution will become virtually non-existent as the d'evil seals us his and we descend into the deep sleep most are under.

Then, we are snuffed - burned as stubble with the tares after the harvest is completed.  May we rise and do better than this!