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THIS BLOG IS AN ATTEMPT TO PUT ALL THE COOL STUFF THAT I BUMP INTO ABOUT THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST AND EVENTS THAT LEAD UP TO IT INTO ONE LOCATION.
THE CONTENTS WILL BE FROM AN LDS PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING IN HERE, I DO NOT PARTICULARLY CARE TO ARGUE, UNLESS YOU CAN ADD TO THIS BODY OF WORK. I HAVE AN OPEN MIND, THAT IS WHY I READ STUFF FROM ALL DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND SEEK LEARNING FROM THE BEST BOOKS. I JUST AM NOT HERE TO ARGUE ABOUT IT - BUT TO PUT IT OUT THERE WHERE OTHERS CAN PERUSE/PURSUE IT. I TAKE PARTICULAR INTEREST IN HONEST SEEKERS OF TRUTH AND BELIEVE THAT SCIENCE IS REVEALED RELIGION'S BEST ALLY. YOU WILL SEE ALOT OF TOPICS IN THIS BLOG THAT SHOW SCIENCE BACKING - AND SLOWLY CATCHING UP WITH - REVEALED RELIGION.
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Showing posts with label ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. Show all posts
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Monday, December 21, 2015

ECONOMIC TROUBLE PREDICTED BY MULTIPLE DIFF SOURCES?

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WACKY POSTS OF A CLUGE OF A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT STUFF I LITERALLY TRIPPED OVER. I WILL ATTEMPT TO SORT IT OUT LATER:



Connor:

This is a nice link, and pertains very well. Thank you.

J:

The old prophecies and statements by the old leaders is part of what makes this such an interesting, and for me vague, topic. How to feel about this will ultimately rest on future revelation. With your interest and knowledge of church history, I would like to read a future post from you on this. If you take requests.

Comment # 18 left by Eric Nielson on November 3rd, 2006

:)

I have actually toyed a bit with the idea. The drawbacks are that it is very complex. Is there any reason to take it out of the Article of Faith before we take out the second coming? I think that the challenge for Mormon’s has been that since the beginning, they have believed that the second coming was going to arrive in their lifetimes and often within x years. When you put something like the gathering of Zion in Jackson County that doesn’t seem to be happening, they rationalize their way out of in preference of an eminent coming of Christ. Well, generations of Saints have been wrong and they die without the Millennium. Odds are that it will be the same for us.

Comment # 19 left by J. Stapley on November 3rd, 2006

Odds are that it will be the same for us.

Speak for yourself! :)

Comment # 20 left by Connor Boyack on November 3rd, 2006
hey all

The best place to learn about the new Jerusalem is reading Isaiah. The best commentary money can buy is by Avraham Gileadi and cost $40 + $5 shipping. it is 30 hours of verse by verse commentary on two CDs in a MP3 format. You can play it on any computer or MP3 player. see

http://www.isaiahinstitute.com/isaiahinstitute/Default.aspx

in short

Isiiah explains that america will have a economic clospe where the stock market will fall just like 1929. Most people on the last days list think this will happen in oct of 2008. Accourding to Joshp smith there will be a civil war starting in chacigo, which will spread across the usa. There will be no law and order, only in the rockys. kind of like how new orlands was when there was no food. missionarys will be sent out to gather people to the rocky mountains for peice and safety. The saints at that time will unhold the consitution. The lord will raise up a servant who will lead the people into the winderness like moses did. At this time amermica will be attached both one the CA side and the East side.

at this time 90% of the world people are killed, by war by the antichrist. only the rightous 9% will be protected indirectly. The 1% which is the holy seed will be gathered by the 144,000 to zion.

Faithfull sons like hemaun army will over come the attacking armys.
this will be done by faithful white and laminiate people. The us amry will have given up, and it will take this servant and the faithful sons to cause the power of god to fight back the invading armay.

the coming of the savior among these people will be so natural that only a few people will know the savior will have come. This is not his coming in golry.

The savor will lead a group and also the 144,000 each will lead people back to mousir zion in groups of 300-600 each. With one of the 144,000 in frount and in back. These people will be lead like moses and they will walk thur the fire, the oceans , the armys ect with the cloud of glory protecting them by night and a fire in the day. when they get to the center place zion, the glory that was upon each group will then be added upon the temple. so as more and more people gather, zion will put on its glory and streangth till the whole would will see its glory. The people who come to zion will have their calling and ection sure.

you have got to get Avraham Gileadis commentary on Isiiah. The best that any LDS author has yet to bring forth. over 30 hours. Hugh b Nibley said that Avraham is the most quilified peoson to teach Isiaih he knows of.

It is an amazing great work and wonder….

dewey




Is America on the Cusp of Economic Chaos? A Voice of Warning, Are We Listening?
Jared on October 29th, 2008 in Preparedness

I don’t know the answer to this question, but sentences beginning with economic, and ending with assorted descriptive terms like depression and collapse are being heard among those who are in the know about things financial. I think Jim Rogers was the first market maven I heard sound the alarm about the seriousness of the sub-prime problem in late 2007. More recently he told CNBC that the US government’s approach to the “bailout” will create an “inflation holocaust”.

In a now famous talk given by President Hinckley in Oct 1998 Priesthood Meeting, our optimistic prophet struck a surprisingly pessimistic tone when he said:

“There is a portent of stormy weather ahead to which we had better give heed. I hope with all my heart that we shall never slip into a depression. I am a child of the Great Depression of the thirties. I finished the university in 1932, when unemployment in this area exceeded 33 percent… We are carrying a message of self-reliance throughout the Church. Self-reliance cannot obtain when there is serious debt hanging over a household… I urge you, brethren, to look to the condition of your finances. I urge you to be modest in your expenditures; discipline yourselves in your purchases to avoid debt to the extent possible. Pay off debt as quickly as you can, and free yourselves from bondage.”


An Astonishing Prophecy

BACKGROUND ON IOHANI WOLFGRAMM FROM HIS GRANDSON:

Im happy to see that some of you may have known my grand father Iohani and for those who did not know him you would have loved my grand father honestly. He was an incredible honest man with unbelievable faith in Jesus Christ. he was blessed spiritually and had the strength of a Lion when he testified of the gospel.. Anyone who knew him knew that granpa loved them unconditionally. He was blessed with the gift of Healing and the he had great faith and magnified his priesthood to the best of his human ability. He prayed often and fasting was a regular part of his life.. He had a fouth grade education and could not read nor write but daily my granma would read the scriptures out loud while Iohani memorized each scipture word for word... He understood the scriptures and was able to cross reference. He served as a missionary most of his life and was a building missionary through out the pacific Islands. Granma and Granpa were called by the Mission President in Tonga and advised that they were to gather up the family and move to SLC. Utah, they moved in 1965. They had 18 children and when they came to America. the only way was on the front deck of a freightliner ship. They left with only the clothes on their backs and and very small amount of food. My Aunts believe that because they fasted often they were able to servived that long hard trip.. Some of my aunts were just children at the time advised that they were sea sick,wet and cold and had to be tied down so that they would not get washed away by the harsh giant waves. Still keep in mind that none of them spoke the English language.. All they knew is that the Lord had asked them to move to SLC and because of the faith my grand parents they just picked up and loaded that ship with full faith and trust that God will provide. The trip was planned by the church leaders so when my family arrived they were picked up by LDS members who were awaiting their arrival.. this is the kind of humble man my grand father was and I'm very blessed to be a part of his family... Granma use to ask him how will we eat and survive in this country and Granpa would say "If god can feed the animals on the ground and birds in the air, then he will also feed us his survants." My grand parents were true Pioneers of the Pacific. They later learned that they were called to this country to complete their geneology and to perform all of the hundreds and thousands of temple ordinance for their families etc. So the rest of their lives were dedicated to geneology and temple work. They also put in for a mission and did get send back to Tonga to serve and in their later years they served as Stake Missionaries. I have many many true stories and experience of miracle and blessings to share but I will share them with you at a later time. I love and miss my Grand parents they were fun folks and we always laughed with them... There is so much I wish to share but I will do so in due time. God bless everyone during these hard times and may we be obedient to the promptings of the Holy Spirit in all that we do. God be with you. Aloha


MORE ON IOHANNI:

This e-mail article is from Darren


I served as a councilor to Ensign Wolfgramm, Iohanni's nephew, throughout the 80's and early 90's. As a result of my relationship with Ensign, my wife and I had the wonderful opportunity to receive a blessing from Iohani.

I knew that Iohani had raised at least 2 people from the dead. One was his daughter, and Elder Oakes speaks of the event in one of his talks. (Also in the June 2001 Ensign http://lds.org/Static%20Files/PDF/Ma...2001Ensign.pdf Pages 13-14) I had the opportunity to talk to this daughter of Iohani and she told me about her experience of being run over by a car, having her head crushed, dieing, receiving a blessing from her father and coming back to life without any physical evidence that her head was crushed.

Another story I was told was that a relative of Iohani was in the LDS hospital and had died, It took over 2 days to get Iohanni to come and give him a blessing, as he was in California when his relative died. The staff at the LDS Hospital told the family of the dead man that they could not keep the dead body any longer in the hospital room and they were about to move him to the morgue. Finally Iohani got there and revived the dead relative.

The reason that Iohani had the gifts that he had is that he was so very humble and a true follower. He went on eight full time missions to Tonga. He told me that he visited the huts or doors of every person in Tonga, even the King and Queen. Tonga is now predominately Mormon, and some of that success is due to the efforts of the Lord working through Iohani.

My wife and I each received blessings from Iohani, my wife was told in her blessing that she would see the Savior and that she would witness the return of the city of Enoch. Mine was equally wonderful.

Iohani Wolfgramm did not mention to us the coming economic collapse when we met with him, but he did mention getting our lives ready for the Savior's return as he told us that His return would happen very soon.

Iohani's words have sunk deep into my heart. It was a great blessing.
Darren


Recently I came across a prophecy reportedly given in 1989 by Iohani Wolfgramm. Brother Wolfgramm, I’ve learned, is a Tongan brother known for his spiritual gifts. Elder Oaks referred to him in a talk entitled, “Miracles”, published in June 2001 Ensign. It is a word of mouth, fragmented pronouncement without a source. I would normally file it under the heading of unreliable prophecy, but I decided to keep it for further evaluation. Following is part of what he is reported to have said regarding an economic collapse:

“The Big economic collapse which leads to chaos will occur in the last year of the 2nd term of the son of George Bush who will become president.”

Someone commenting that the patriarch must mean that President Bush (the 1st Pres. Bush) would be re-elected. Patriarch Wolfgramm then replied (remember, this is 1989) that it wasn’t that Pres. Bush, but that it was the son of Pres. Bush who would become president that he was referring to.

I’ve been able to trace discussion on this prophecy as far back as 2003 on the internet. Does anyone know more? I hesitate to pass this kind of thing on, but I want to learn more about this prophecy. Do any of you reading this have more information?

Summary

I feel to echo the words of President Hinckley, and say it is important for all of those who follow the prophets to double, and redouble our efforts to be prepared as church leaders have told us for these many years.

I’ll close this post with the words of another prophet, Ezra Taft Benson who said:

“The revelation to store food may be as essential to our temporal salvation today as boarding the ark was to the people in the days of Noah” (”Prepare Ye,” Ensign, Jan. 1974, 69).


As I tried to look away from my black surroundings, a small light started to shine in front of me, and the darkness, sounds and feelings that had so completely oppressed me started to fade into the background. The light grew bigger, and a window opened up much the same as when I had witnessed my life's review. This time however, a panoramic view of the entire earth lay before me. It came closer and closer as if I had been out in space and was flying toward it.

I knew what was happening was intended to help me make my decision about going back to the earth and my terrible life. A part of me wanted to go back to the beautiful spirit world, or paradise, that I had seen, and another part of me felt the need to be reunited with my body so I could change my life. It was a tug-of-war, and what I was about to see was to help me understand what I would be going through if I chose to go back to my 'body of clay.'

Again the view before me played out like a videotape in fast forward motion, and yet I could see the scene in perfect clarity and was able to comprehend everything that transpired. As the earth zoomed up into my view, I first saw the whole world, and then various countries. It was made clear to me that in the future there would be wars and troubles, including nuclear attacks in various places of the world, and a view of how it would start was given.

I am not familiar with the geography of the world, but as I looked a the various lands before my view I instinctively knew what countries they were. Looking at the Middle East, I watched as a missile flew from Libya and hit Israel. The mushroom cloud that resulted from the blast was visible, and I knew that the missile contained a nuclear bomb. I was aware that those responsible for the missile were Iranian, but the missile had been hidden and fired from within the borders of Libya.

Almost immediately after this, other missiles began flying from one country to another, quickly spreading war around the world. I also saw that many nuclear explosions did not come from missiles but from bombs of some kind on the ground.

My focus then changed from the Middle East to the United States, and I understood that I was about to see some of the things that would lead up to the nuclear holocaust that I had just witnessed.

As I looked upon the continent of North America, I zeroed in on the eastern coast and then on New York specifically. I saw New York City with all of its people and buildings. I then saw some tall buildings crashing to the earth surrounded by tremendous amounts of smoke, dust, and debris.

I zoomed in closer into the smoke and dust, and I saw a woman holding a little girl's hand and running from the crashing buildings. The woman had long dark hair, hanging past her shoulders and curled inward slightly. She wore a beige business suit, heels of a slightly darker color, perhaps tan, and she was not wearing glasses. The little girl appeared to be about 6 or 7 years old with short brown hair reaching below the chin and cut in a type of pageboy look. They ran together, holding hands and trying to escape from the falling buildings. As they ran through the heavy smoke and dust, they were forced to let go of their hands and became separated. The child was terrified, and I could hear her screaming, "Mommy, mommy!" over and over again.

I don't know their outcome, if they lived or died, but I can still see the face of the woman clearly and could easily identify her from a photo or describe her to a sketch artist. I asked if an earthquake had caused the buildings to fall and felt impressed that the answer was no. However, I was not given any indication as to the cause of the destruction. (Incidentally, I told this story many, many times before September 11, 2001. When I did see on television the World Trade Center towers collapsing, I knew that this was what I had seen.

The next thing that came to me was more felt than seen. It was the understanding that shortly after the crashing of the buildings in New York City, commerce ceased. Shopping and buying seemed to stop, and the economy failed throughout the world. Few had any money at all, and those who did have it could not buy anything of worth with it. Gold and silver and other commodities had value and could be traded.

I then saw a man walk into a middle of a crowd of people and drop what seemed like a quart jar full of liquid. The jar broke and the liquid spread. I understood that people nearby had become infected with a disease from the liquid, and they didn't even know it. A day or two later the people became sick and started dying. I saw that this would happen in four particular cities: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Salt Lake City. The disease started with white blisters, some the size of a dime, appearing the hands, arms and face of the victims. The blisters quickly developed into white puffy sores. Those with the disease would stumble around and fall over dead. Many died within a short time, perhaps 24 hours.

I also saw other people with a flu-like virus that spread more quickly than the first disease. The victims had blood coming from their nose, mouth, eyes, and ears. These people died even faster of this disease than the ones who had the first sickness. These diseases became wide-spread across the United States with hundreds of thousands infected.

As the people were fleeing the cities in the hope of saving their lives, gangs were attacking them and killing them. In the towns that were struck with disease there was chaos, with looting, rioting and murders involved in a complete breakdown of society. Many people seemed to go crazy. I sensed that the electricity had failed everywhere and that nothing was running throughout the country, including any of the communication systems. I watched people throw rocks through windows to steal TV's that would not work and thought it was very strange.

While I watched all this happening in the United States, my view instantly jumped back to the Middle East, and I saw the same thing taking place in Israel. The same sores and the same types of sickness and disease that were plaguing the U.S. had also been unleashed in Israel.

The switch in view only lasted an instant, and I was back in the United States. There was a tremendously long winter that caught everyone by surprise following the siege of sickness. It started early and lasted into the summer months. A famine had begun over the few years leading up to the long winter because of storms, droughts, floods and other plagues that had taken place; and the abnormally long cold period seemed to cause the famine to suddenly increase to its full measure.

In the period of time following the disease, which was quickly followed by the long winter, things started going down hill very quickly. Events piled up one on top of another without any breaks. My sense of timing was not very clear at this moment; however because I was seeing several things happening all at the same time or very close together.

During and after the long winter, the disease spread everywhere and increased in severity. The economy and the electricity were completely gone. Chaos and anarchy reigned over the entire United States. Without any government there was a total breakdown, and I saw people panicking everywhere. They were trying in vain to find food. There was none. I saw people even digging in the ground for worms to eat because they were so hungry from the lack of food.

Also, during this time I became aware that there was very little drinking water, and the remaining water had become contaminated, so that if a person drank it they would contract the disease and die. Because of their great thirst many people drank the water in spite of the danger of poisoning and died.

I mentioned earlier the gangs that killed people trying to escape the cities. It seemed that some of the people had lost their minds and went around in these gangs killing people just for the sake of killing; others killed for food or to gain some material possessions from their victims. Those that were killing for no reason were like beasts: animals completely out of control, as they raped, looted, burned and butchered people. I saw these gangs go into the homes of those who were hiding. They would drag them out of their hiding places, rape and dismember them.

For many there was an unnatural fear and hatred that came over the people. Family ties that once existed between husbands and wives, parents and children no longer mattered. The only thing that mattered was individual survival. Men would kill their wives and children for food or water. Mothers would kill their children. For me, the events that then lay before me were horrible beyond description and almost unbearable to watch.

The air everywhere was filled with smoke as many buildings and cities burned with no attempt to control the fires. As I looked upon this scene of chaos, smoke and destruction I noticed that there were small pockets of light scattered over the United States. There were, I would guess, about twenty or thirty of them that I saw. I noticed that most of the locations of light were in the western part of the United States, with only three or four of them being in the east. These places of light seemed to shine brightly through the darkness and were such a contrast to the rest of the scene that they caught my attention. I focused on them for a moment and asked, 'What are these things?'

I was then able to see that these points of light were people who had gathered together and were kneeling in prayer. The light was actually coming from the people, and I understood that the light was showing forth their goodness and love. I further understood that they gathered together for safety and that, contrary to what I had witnessed everywhere, the cared more for each other than for themselves. Some of the groups were small with only a hundred people or so, but other groups consisted of what seemed to be thousands.

I realized that many, if not all, of these places of light, or cities of light as I began to think of them, had somehow been established just before the biological attack, and that they were very organized. It was as if they had known what was coming and had prepared for it. I did not see who or what had organized them, but I did see many people struggling to reach them with nothing but what they could carry.

The cities of light had food that others outside of those groups did not have, and within the cities of light food was readily shared with those who joined their groups. In these places there was peace and safety. The inhabitants were living in tents of all kinds, many of which were no more than blankets held up by poles. I noticed that the gangs made no threats on these groups and left them completely alone, choosing to pick on other targets and unprotected people, as many of the people in those cities had guns that they would use for self-defense. The gangs also preyed upon the people who were traveling, trying to reach the cities of light.

As I looked upon them, I realized that these cities of light were temporary and that in a short time the people living within them would go to another place. I do not know where they were to go but seemed to think that they gathered in the mountains, to higher places.

As I was viewing the cities of light, my focus changed, and I became aware of missiles being launched and hitting U.S. cities. I watched as mushroom clouds started forming over many areas of the United States. Some of the clouds came from missiles that I knew were fired from Russia, and others were not from missiles at all, but from bombs that were already in the United States. These latter bombs had been hidden in trucks and in cars driven to certain locations and then detonated.

I specifically saw Los Angeles, Los Vegas, and New York City hit with bombs. New York City was hit with a missile, but I think that Los Angeles was hit by at least one truck bomb, if not several, because I didn't see any missile. I also saw a mushroom cloud from north of Salt Lake City, but without the aid of a missile.

In the darkness I also saw little fireballs. I'm not sure if this happened just before or during the mushroom clouds. The balls fell from the sky, were of different sizes - most being the size of golf balls - and were very hot. There were millions of them. As they fell from the sky they left streaks of flame and smoke behind them. Everything they touched started on fire: people, buildings, trees, or grass. Everything burned. I didn't ask what they were or where they had come from because by this time I was sick because of the scene before me, and so I observed without asking many questions.

At almost the same time and in the same locations as the mushroom clouds, I saw Russian and Chinese troops invading the United States. The Russians were parachuting at many spots along the Eastern Coast; I also saw them parachuting in Utah. Chinese troops were invading from the West Coast near Los Angeles. They were met with resistance from those who had survived the disease and bombs. I did not see any United States military there at that time.

The invasion was part of the nuclear war that I had seen earlier, and I knew that similar events were taking place all over the world as I had seen previously. I did not see much of this war, but was impressed that it was short in duration and the Russian and Chinese armies lost and left. No explanation regarding how or why was received.

Now the smoke became very heavy, dark and thick. Just as things appeared to be as bad as they could get, the earth began to quake. This occurred during a winter, seemingly the winter that followed the very long one I had seen earlier. The chaos had existed for almost a full year by this time. The earthquakes began in the west, around Idaho and Wyoming, and then quickly spread in every direction. I saw a huge earthquake hit Utah, and then California. There were earthquakes all over California, but they were especially devastating in the Los Angeles and San Francisco areas. San Francisco appeared to turn upside down.

The multiple earthquakes triggered volcanoes all over the west, and they started spewing a tremendous amount of ash and smoke into the air, causing it to become very dark and dirty and blocking much of what was left of the sunlight.

There were also huge waves of water that swept over the west coast, and as I saw them I realized that this same thing was happening to coastal cities all over the world. The waves were so huge that Los Angeles was nearly swept away.

I saw a wall of water taller than some of the buildings, perhaps as high as fifteen or twenty feet, sweep through Salt Lake City. I thought this was strange because of its location so far from the ocean, and wondered how a wave could travel all the way to Salt Lake City. I was impressed that the wave had not originated at the ocean, but was from under ground. I quickly noticed great cracks in the earth around Salt Lake City opened up and saw water shooting up out of the ground. I felt that deep under the ground was a huge amount of water and that the earthquakes had forced it up to the surface. Most of the buildings were swept away or destroyed when the water swept over the city. In fact there had been tremendous destruction, with only a few buildings left standing. The water coming from underground stretched from Idaho down to near Cedar City, Utah, and was very destructive.

As I looked, I could see that cities all over the country had been devastated, and there was rubble everywhere. Most of the buildings were destroyed. However, I realized that even though there was tremendous destruction from earthquakes, disease, floods, volcanoes, and tidal waves, the majority of the deaths were caused by the gangs of roving marauders that killed for pleasure.

As I studied the scene for a moment, the thought occurred to me that the earth itself had become sickened at the terrible acts of cruelty that were happening upon it and was finally reacting through these natural disasters. The earth was attempting to cleanse itself of the chaos and evil that had engulfed the people. The ash and smoke from the volcanoes had increased, and there was now almost complete darkness everywhere upon the earth.

The diseases also increased in devastation, and I saw people literally dying on their feet. I saw another particular disease that started with red blotches, and then the victims would start to bleed from every opening in their bodies. Then the people literally disintegrated, or melted into unrecognizable masses of flesh and bone. The sight was horrendous, as death and the dead were everywhere.

After this second terrible winter, I saw the survivors pile up the dead into huge piles to burn them. The stench was sickening. Some of the bodies had been burned during the time of chaos, but because people were more concerned with their survival they had mostly ignored the dead around them.

A huge earthquake occurred in the middle of the United States. It was tremendous and seemed to split the United States in half about where the Mississippi River is. The crack in the earth that resulted was huge, miles wide, and as it opened up the earth seemed to swallow everything. Water flowed in from the Gulf of Mexico all the way up to the Great Lakes. The Great Lakes did not exist any longer, however, as they became part of a large inland sea.

Then I saw another series of tremendous earthquakes all over the world. But they were not many, separate earthquakes, rather it was all part of one gigantic earthquake that shook the entire earth. Because of this earthquake waters overflowed their boundaries onto land all over the world. There were again huge walls of water along all of the coastal regions. This earthquake and the walls of water made the earlier ones seem small by comparison. I am not sure if the earthquake that split the United States in two was a part of this worldwide quake or not.

Next I saw a mighty wind come upon wind come upon the earth. As the wind hit, I saw people go into caves and into the cracks of rocks to try to escape its fury. It appeared to be stronger than any hurricane or tornado. It seemed that everything that had been left was now blown away.

I understood, without asking, that the great worldwide earthquake and the mighty wind were somehow caused by a huge planet-like object, that had come very close to the earth and had disrupted everything. It was also made clear to me that it was very near the "end" when this happened.

Now my perspective changed: I once again viewed the entire earth from a distance. I then saw a huge fireball, much larger than the earth, approaching our planet. It was extremely bright red and gold in color, and it engulfed the whole earth. When I witnessed this event I could not help but feel the difference between it and everything else that had occurred, and so I asked what this was that I saw. I was impressed that it was the burning of the earth that is described in the Bible. I understood that just before the fireball's appearance Jesus had appeared, and the good people I had seen earlier had left with Him and were no longer on the earth. The few people left behind were those wicked who had survived the earlier devastations.

The picture of the earth engulfed by this huge ball of red and gold fire slowly faded away into blackness. I was thinking that I have to go down and take care of my children so that they could be protected from the terrible things that were going to happen and then I don't remember any more until I woke up in the hospital."

Wolfgramm:
Economic collapse starting in Bush's second term.
Menet:
Some time after 9/11 the global economy will collapse to the point where paper money is useless and commerce ceases.

Wolfgramm:
Great drought.
Menet:
Droughts, storms and floods starts on/around the collapse and eventually leads up to a great famine.

Wolfgramm:
Great apostasy amongst church members.
Menet:
Doesn't talk about church events other than they gather in communities referred to as points of light. Maybe I missed something...

Wolfgramm:
Nuclear explosion in Utah.
Menet:
A mushroom cloud north of SLC

Wolfgramm:
Foreign troops invade US
Menet:
Russian and Chinese troops invade US.

Wolfgramm:
Invasion force in Utah primarily Chinese
Menet:
Chinese invade from west.

Wolfgramm:
Great upheavals and earthquakes along Wasatch front area
Menet:
Great earthquakes in Utah free enormous underground water reservoirs that flood much of SLC and surrounding areas

Wolfgramm:
Righteous spared
Menet:
Sees points of light around the US where people gather for safety and are protected from murderous gangs, biological attack, etc. (tent cities)

Wolfgramm:
Rocky mountains become sacred place where righteous gather
Menet:
Righteous people collect from scattered communities to mountain areas.

They match pretty well from a direct comparison. Menet goes into much more detail on world events as they unfold.

Sunday, May 6, 2012

THE COMING ECONOMIC COLLAPSE - A SEQUENCE OF EVENTS

I WILL PUBLISH THIS EVEN THOUGH THE BLOGGER FORMAT WAS TOTALLY MESSED UP A WEEK AGO. IF YOU ARE GOOD, YOU CAN PICK THROUGH THE TAG-RIDDLED TEXT AND GET SOME GOOD INFO FROM THIS. GOT THIS FROM ONE OF MY FAVORITE SITES: LDS FREEDOM FORUM

Prophecies of the protests and riots that are coming

Postby NoGreaterLove » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:14 pm
Remember Joseph Smith vision in where he saw neighbor against neighbor and city against city and it got so terrible he asked the Lord to shut it up? IMO these protests are a rapid acceleration of the events that will cause this vision to come true.

• 1 Nephi 21:26
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; they shall be drunken with their own blood as with sweet wine; and all flesh shall know that I, the Lord, am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.
• 1 Nephi 22:13
13 And the blood of that great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall turn upon their own heads; for they shall war among themselves, and the sword of their own hands shall fall upon their own heads, and they shall be drunken with their own blood.
• 2 Nephi 6:18
18 And I will feed them that oppress thee, with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood as with sweet wine; and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.
• Isaiah 49:26
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

• Doctrine and Covenants 101:89
89 And if the president heed them not, then will the Lord arise and come forth out of his hiding place, and in his fury vex the nation;
D&C 87
4 And it shall come to pass, after many days, slaves shall rise up against their masters, who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war.
5 And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry, and shall vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation.
6 And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations;
7 That the cry of the saints, and of the blood of the saints, shall cease to come up into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth, from the earth, to be avenged of their enemies.
• Ezekiel 32:9
9 I will also vex the hearts of many people, when I shall bring thy destruction among the nations, into the countries which thou hast not known.
Doctrine and Covenants 97:23
23 The Lord’s scourge shall pass over by night and by day, and the report thereof shall vex all people; yea, it shall not be stayed until the Lord come


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Postby Oldemandalton » Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:41 pm
So who is the whore? Who is oppressing the Saints? Who killed the modern day prophets? Who is guilty of not redressing the wrongs of the saints.

NoGreaterLove, this was a rhetorical question right?

The scriptures use many names; the little horn, great and abominable church, the whore of the earth, kingdom of Satan, secret combinations, etc.
Modern prophets have pointed out Marxists and Islamic Jihadists are secret combinations.

Cleon Skousen has added the “Super Rich” in the ‘Naked Capitalist’ and others have added other organizations such as the CFR, Bilderbergers, etc.

My theory is that there is a Master Mahan today who uses these groups for his nefarious ends and is the representative of the Kingdom of Satan on the earth just as God has called Thomas S. Monson to be His representative on earth. Remember that there is opposition in all things. Can you imagine the power of a Master Mahan who can get reports from any evil spirit watching mankind from anywhere around the world?

Your post reminded me of this scripture in the B of M and an article I posted long ago;

The Great and Abominable Church is digging the pit and will fall in themselves.

1 Ne 14: 3 And that great pit, which hath been[b] digged for them by that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hell—yea, that great pit which hath been digged for the destruction of men shall be filled by those who digged it, unto their utter destruction, saith the Lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that hell which hath no end.[/b]

The Pit is explained below with the ‘5 Stages of Collapse’ article.

The Five Stages of Collapse
Dmitry Orlov

Elizabeth Kübler-Ross defined the five stages of coming to terms with grief and tragedy as denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance, and applied it quite successfully to various forms of catastrophic personal loss, such as death of a loved one, sudden end to one's career, and so forth. Several thinkers, notably James Howard Kunstler and, more recently John Michael Greer, have pointed out that the Kübler-Ross model is also quite terrifyingly accurate in reflecting the process by which society as a whole (or at least the informed and thinking parts of it) is reconciling itself to the inevitability of a discontinuous future, with our institutions and life support systems undermined by a combination of resource depletion, catastrophic climate change, and political impotence. But so far, little has been said specifically about the finer structure of these discontinuities. Instead, there is to be found a continuum of subjective judgments, ranging from "a severe and prolonged recession" (the prediction we most often read in the financial press), to Kunstler's "Long Emergency," to the ever-popular "Collapse of Western Civilization," painted with an ever-wider brush-stroke.

For those of us who have already gone through all of the emotional stages of reconciling ourselves to the prospect of social and economic upheaval, it might be helpful to have a more precise terminology that goes beyond such emotionally charged phrases. Defining a taxonomy of collapses might prove to be more than just an intellectual exercise: based on our abilities and circumstances, some of us may be able to specifically plan for a certain stage of collapse as a temporary, or even permanent, stopping point. Even if society at the current stage of socioeconomic complexity will no longer be possible, and even if, as Tainter points in his "Collapse of Complex Societies," there are circumstances in which collapse happens to be the correct adaptive response, it need not automatically cause a population crash, with the survivors disbanding into solitary, feral humans dispersed in the wilderness and subsisting miserably. Collapse can be conceived of as an orderly, organized retreat rather than a rout.

For instance, the collapse of the Soviet Union - our most recent and my personal favorite example of an imperial collapse - did not reach the point of political disintegration of the republics that made it up, although some of them (Georgia, Moldova) did lose some territory to separatist movements. And although most of the economy shut down for a time, many institutions, including the military, public utilities, and public transportation, continued to function throughout. And although there was much social dislocation and suffering, society as a whole did not collapse, because most of the population did not lose access to food, housing, medicine, or any of the other survival necessities. The command-and-control structure of the Soviet economy largely decoupled the necessities of daily life from any element of market psychology, associating them instead with physical flows of energy and physical access to resources. This situation, as I argue in my forthcoming book, Reinventing Collapse, allowed the Soviet population to inadvertently achieve a greater level of collapse-preparedness than is currently possible in the United States.

Having given a lot of thought to both the differences and the similarities between the two superpowers - the one that has collapsed already, and the one that is collapsing as I write this - I feel ready to attempt a bold conjecture, and define five stages of collapse, to serve as mental milestones as we gauge our own collapse-preparedness and see what can be done to improve it. Rather than tying each phase to a particular emotion, as in the Kübler-Ross model, the proposed taxonomy ties each of the five collapse stages to the breaching of a specific level of trust, or faith, in the status quo. Although each stage causes physical, observable changes in the environment, these can be gradual, while the mental flip is generally quite swift. It is something of a cultural universal that nobody (but a real fool) wants to be the last fool to believe in a lie.

Stages of Collapse
Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in "business as usual" is lost. The future is no longer assumed resemble the past in any way that allows risk to be assessed and financial assets to be guaranteed. Financial institutions become insolvent; savings are wiped out, and access to capital is lost.

Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that "the market shall provide" is lost. Money is devalued and/or becomes scarce, commodities are hoarded, import and retail chains break down, and widespread shortages of survival necessities become the norm.

Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that "the government will take care of you" is lost. As official attempts to mitigate widespread loss of access to commercial sources of survival necessities fail to make a difference, the political establishment loses legitimacy and relevance.

Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that "your people will take care of you" is lost, as local social institutions, be they charities or other groups that rush in to fill the power vacuum run out of resources or fail through internal conflict.

Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in the goodness of humanity is lost. People lose their capacity for "kindness, generosity, consideration, affection, honesty, hospitality, compassion, charity" (Turnbull, The Mountain People). Families disband and compete as individuals for scarce resources. The new motto becomes "May you die today so that I die tomorrow" (Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago). There may even be some cannibalism.

Although many people imagine collapse to be a sort of elevator that goes to the sub-basement (our Stage 5) no matter which button you push, no such automatic mechanism can be discerned. Rather, driving us all to Stage 5 will require that a concerted effort be made at each of the intervening stages. That all the players seem poised to make just such an effort may give this collapse the form a classical tragedy - a conscious but inexorable march to perdition - rather than a farce ("Oops! Ah, here we are, Stage 5." - "So, whom do we eat first?" - "Me! I am delicious!") Let us sketch out this process.

Financial collapse, as we are are currently observing it, consists of two parts. One is that a part of the general population is forced to move, no longer able to afford the house they bought based on inflated assessments, forged income numbers, and foolish expectations of endless asset inflation. Since, technically, they should never have been allowed to buy these houses, and were only able to do so because of financial and political malfeasance, this is actually a healthy development. The second part consists of men in expensive suits tossing bundles of suddenly worthless paper up in the air, ripping out their remaining hair, and (some of us might uncharitably hope) setting themselves on fire on the steps of the Federal Reserve. They, to express it in their own vernacular, "[screwed] up," and so this is also just as it should be.

The government response to this could be to offer some helpful homilies about "the wages of sin" and to open a few soup kitchens and flop houses in a variety of locations including Wall Street. The message would be: "You former debt addicts and gamblers, as you say, '[screwed] up,' and so this will really hurt for a long time. We will never let you anywhere near big money again. Get yourselves over to the soup kitchen, and bring your own bowl, because we don't do dishes." This would result in a stable Stage 1 collapse - the Second Great Depression.http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2008/02/f ... lapse.html




The pit IMO is the crisis that is now being manufactured by the great and abominable church. Satan’s hope is to destroy the Church, first financially (less money, less missionary work and temples), then through tyranny and lose of religious and other freedoms. Lucifer also gets the benefit of death and destruction which he loves and revels in.

Using Orlov’s Five Stages this is what I see;

1.We have gone through stages one and two due to the printing of trillions of dollars (QE 1, 2 and 3?), the bail outs, and almost 0% interest rates which will cause the collapse of the dollar which will in turn collapse every other world currency since they were all tied to the dollar at Bretton Woods. The Euro may even go first and take us down with it.

2.Stage three began in Europe two years ago, spread to the Middle East and now here with the mass demonstrations created by the Marxist Revolutionaries, Unions, and Leftists Soros funded groups. They want this to increase in intensity till the people to cry for a solution.

3.Next they will offer the solution they have been planning for, “top down, bottom up, inside out”. "Capitalism failed so we must replace it with Socialism or even better Communism". “In order to create this new system and bring back peace and order we may have to sacrifice a few liberties for a while.” “A World Bank and World Currency would solve the financial crises.”

4.A Middle East War or even World War would be a nice touch to send the whole world over the cliff of collapse. One spark would set it off. Too many flash points around. After WW I we got the League of Nations. After WW II we got the United Nations. What are they planning after WW III? The whole World will go into stage 3, Political collapse. Wars will increase and governments across the globe will be overthrown by dictators or false 'democracies'. Evil men will desire to take over other regions as their economies collapse. What will countries like Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. be willing to do to salvage their countries and economies? Areas of the world and our country will fall to stages 4 & 5 during this period. Missionaries called home during the anarchy.

5.The plan is to have the sheeple of the world be convinced that a World Government and economic system will be required to save mankind. Do away with all these warring armies and have one world army. Do away with all of these collapsing governments when only one is needed. Have one police force. Have one religion incorporating all that is good and get rid of all of the religious strife.

The problem with digging a pit to trap your enemy is that you may fall in yourself. This is what God has prophesied will happen. The pit dug by Master Mahan and his secret combinations will be their own down fall. Hard to control a fire once it is set.


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Postby NoGreaterLove » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:14 pm
Remember Joseph Smith vision in where he saw neighbor against neighbor and city against city and it got so terrible he asked the Lord to shut it up? IMO these protests are a rapid acceleration of the events that will cause this vision to come true.

• 1 Nephi 21:26
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; they shall be drunken with their own blood as with sweet wine; and all flesh shall know that I, the Lord, am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.
• 1 Nephi 22:13
13 And the blood of that great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall turn upon their own heads; for they shall war among themselves, and the sword of their own hands shall fall upon their own heads, and they shall be drunken with their own blood.
• 2 Nephi 6:18
18 And I will feed them that oppress thee, with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood as with sweet wine; and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.
• Isaiah 49:26
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

• Doctrine and Covenants 101:89
89 And if the president heed them not, then will the Lord arise and come forth out of his hiding place, and in his fury vex the nation;
D&C 87
4 And it shall come to pass, after many days, slaves shall rise up against their masters, who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war.
5 And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry, and shall vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation.
6 And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations;
7 That the cry of the saints, and of the blood of the saints, shall cease to come up into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth, from the earth, to be avenged of their enemies.
• Ezekiel 32:9
9 I will also vex the hearts of many people, when I shall bring thy destruction among the nations, into the countries which thou hast not known.
Doctrine and Covenants 97:23
23 The Lord’s scourge shall pass over by night and by day, and the report thereof shall vex all people; yea, it shall not be stayed until the Lord come


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Postby Oldemandalton » Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:41 pm
So who is the whore? Who is oppressing the Saints? Who killed the modern day prophets? Who is guilty of not redressing the wrongs of the saints.

NoGreaterLove, this was a rhetorical question right?

The scriptures use many names; the little horn, great and abominable church, the whore of the earth, kingdom of Satan, secret combinations, etc.
Modern prophets have pointed out Marxists and Islamic Jihadists are secret combinations.

Cleon Skousen has added the “Super Rich” in the ‘Naked Capitalist’ and others have added other organizations such as the CFR, Bilderbergers, etc.

My theory is that there is a Master Mahan today who uses these groups for his nefarious ends and is the representative of the Kingdom of Satan on the earth just as God has called Thomas S. Monson to be His representative on earth. Remember that there is opposition in all things. Can you imagine the power of a Master Mahan who can get reports from any evil spirit watching mankind from anywhere around the world?

Your post reminded me of this scripture in the B of M and an article I posted long ago;

The Great and Abominable Church is digging the pit and will fall in themselves.

1 Ne 14: 3 And that great pit, which hath been[b] digged for them by that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hell—yea, that great pit which hath been digged for the destruction of men shall be filled by those who digged it, unto their utter destruction, saith the Lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that hell which hath no end.[/b]

The Pit is explained below with the ‘5 Stages of Collapse’ article.

The Five Stages of Collapse
Dmitry Orlov

Elizabeth Kübler-Ross defined the five stages of coming to terms with grief and tragedy as denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance, and applied it quite successfully to various forms of catastrophic personal loss, such as death of a loved one, sudden end to one's career, and so forth. Several thinkers, notably James Howard Kunstler and, more recently John Michael Greer, have pointed out that the Kübler-Ross model is also quite terrifyingly accurate in reflecting the process by which society as a whole (or at least the informed and thinking parts of it) is reconciling itself to the inevitability of a discontinuous future, with our institutions and life support systems undermined by a combination of resource depletion, catastrophic climate change, and political impotence. But so far, little has been said specifically about the finer structure of these discontinuities. Instead, there is to be found a continuum of subjective judgments, ranging from "a severe and prolonged recession" (the prediction we most often read in the financial press), to Kunstler's "Long Emergency," to the ever-popular "Collapse of Western Civilization," painted with an ever-wider brush-stroke.

For those of us who have already gone through all of the emotional stages of reconciling ourselves to the prospect of social and economic upheaval, it might be helpful to have a more precise terminology that goes beyond such emotionally charged phrases. Defining a taxonomy of collapses might prove to be more than just an intellectual exercise: based on our abilities and circumstances, some of us may be able to specifically plan for a certain stage of collapse as a temporary, or even permanent, stopping point. Even if society at the current stage of socioeconomic complexity will no longer be possible, and even if, as Tainter points in his "Collapse of Complex Societies," there are circumstances in which collapse happens to be the correct adaptive response, it need not automatically cause a population crash, with the survivors disbanding into solitary, feral humans dispersed in the wilderness and subsisting miserably. Collapse can be conceived of as an orderly, organized retreat rather than a rout.

For instance, the collapse of the Soviet Union - our most recent and my personal favorite example of an imperial collapse - did not reach the point of political disintegration of the republics that made it up, although some of them (Georgia, Moldova) did lose some territory to separatist movements. And although most of the economy shut down for a time, many institutions, including the military, public utilities, and public transportation, continued to function throughout. And although there was much social dislocation and suffering, society as a whole did not collapse, because most of the population did not lose access to food, housing, medicine, or any of the other survival necessities. The command-and-control structure of the Soviet economy largely decoupled the necessities of daily life from any element of market psychology, associating them instead with physical flows of energy and physical access to resources. This situation, as I argue in my forthcoming book, Reinventing Collapse, allowed the Soviet population to inadvertently achieve a greater level of collapse-preparedness than is currently possible in the United States.

Having given a lot of thought to both the differences and the similarities between the two superpowers - the one that has collapsed already, and the one that is collapsing as I write this - I feel ready to attempt a bold conjecture, and define five stages of collapse, to serve as mental milestones as we gauge our own collapse-preparedness and see what can be done to improve it. Rather than tying each phase to a particular emotion, as in the Kübler-Ross model, the proposed taxonomy ties each of the five collapse stages to the breaching of a specific level of trust, or faith, in the status quo. Although each stage causes physical, observable changes in the environment, these can be gradual, while the mental flip is generally quite swift. It is something of a cultural universal that nobody (but a real fool) wants to be the last fool to believe in a lie.

Stages of Collapse
Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in "business as usual" is lost. The future is no longer assumed resemble the past in any way that allows risk to be assessed and financial assets to be guaranteed. Financial institutions become insolvent; savings are wiped out, and access to capital is lost.

Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that "the market shall provide" is lost. Money is devalued and/or becomes scarce, commodities are hoarded, import and retail chains break down, and widespread shortages of survival necessities become the norm.

Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that "the government will take care of you" is lost. As official attempts to mitigate widespread loss of access to commercial sources of survival necessities fail to make a difference, the political establishment loses legitimacy and relevance.

Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that "your people will take care of you" is lost, as local social institutions, be they charities or other groups that rush in to fill the power vacuum run out of resources or fail through internal conflict.

Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in the goodness of humanity is lost. People lose their capacity for "kindness, generosity, consideration, affection, honesty, hospitality, compassion, charity" (Turnbull, The Mountain People). Families disband and compete as individuals for scarce resources. The new motto becomes "May you die today so that I die tomorrow" (Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago). There may even be some cannibalism.

Although many people imagine collapse to be a sort of elevator that goes to the sub-basement (our Stage 5) no matter which button you push, no such automatic mechanism can be discerned. Rather, driving us all to Stage 5 will require that a concerted effort be made at each of the intervening stages. That all the players seem poised to make just such an effort may give this collapse the form a classical tragedy - a conscious but inexorable march to perdition - rather than a farce ("Oops! Ah, here we are, Stage 5." - "So, whom do we eat first?" - "Me! I am delicious!") Let us sketch out this process.

Financial collapse, as we are are currently observing it, consists of two parts. One is that a part of the general population is forced to move, no longer able to afford the house they bought based on inflated assessments, forged income numbers, and foolish expectations of endless asset inflation. Since, technically, they should never have been allowed to buy these houses, and were only able to do so because of financial and political malfeasance, this is actually a healthy development. The second part consists of men in expensive suits tossing bundles of suddenly worthless paper up in the air, ripping out their remaining hair, and (some of us might uncharitably hope) setting themselves on fire on the steps of the Federal Reserve. They, to express it in their own vernacular, "[screwed] up," and so this is also just as it should be.

The government response to this could be to offer some helpful homilies about "the wages of sin" and to open a few soup kitchens and flop houses in a variety of locations including Wall Street. The message would be: "You former debt addicts and gamblers, as you say, '[screwed] up,' and so this will really hurt for a long time. We will never let you anywhere near big money again. Get yourselves over to the soup kitchen, and bring your own bowl, because we don't do dishes." This would result in a stable Stage 1 collapse - the Second Great Depression.http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2008/02/f ... lapse.html




The pit IMO is the crisis that is now being manufactured by the great and abominable church. Satan’s hope is to destroy the Church, first financially (less money, less missionary work and temples), then through tyranny and lose of religious and other freedoms. Lucifer also gets the benefit of death and destruction which he loves and revels in.

Using Orlov’s Five Stages this is what I see;

1.We have gone through stages one and two due to the printing of trillions of dollars (QE 1, 2 and 3?), the bail outs, and almost 0% interest rates which will cause the collapse of the dollar which will in turn collapse every other world currency since they were all tied to the dollar at Bretton Woods. The Euro may even go first and take us down with it.

2.Stage three began in Europe two years ago, spread to the Middle East and now here with the mass demonstrations created by the Marxist Revolutionaries, Unions, and Leftists Soros funded groups. They want this to increase in intensity till the people to cry for a solution.

3.Next they will offer the solution they have been planning for, “top down, bottom up, inside out”. "Capitalism failed so we must replace it with Socialism or even better Communism". “In order to create this new system and bring back peace and order we may have to sacrifice a few liberties for a while.” “A World Bank and World Currency would solve the financial crises.”

4.A Middle East War or even World War would be a nice touch to send the whole world over the cliff of collapse. One spark would set it off. Too many flash points around. After WW I we got the League of Nations. After WW II we got the United Nations. What are they planning after WW III? The whole World will go into stage 3, Political collapse. Wars will increase and governments across the globe will be overthrown by dictators or false 'democracies'. Evil men will desire to take over other regions as their economies collapse. What will countries like Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. be willing to do to salvage their countries and economies? Areas of the world and our country will fall to stages 4 & 5 during this period. Missionaries called home during the anarchy.

5.The plan is to have the sheeple of the world be convinced that a World Government and economic system will be required to save mankind. Do away with all these warring armies and have one world army. Do away with all of these collapsing governments when only one is needed. Have one police force. Have one religion incorporating all that is good and get rid of all of the religious strife.

The problem with digging a pit to trap your enemy is that you may fall in yourself. This is what God has prophesied will happen. The pit dug by Master Mahan and his secret combinations will be their own down fall. Hard to control a fire once it is set.


OMD

THE COMING ECONOMIC COLLAPSE - A SEQUENCE OF EVENTS

GOT THIS FROM ONE OF MY FAVORITE SITES: LDS FREEDOM FORUM

Prophecies of the protests and riots that are coming

Postby NoGreaterLove » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:14 pm
Remember Joseph Smith vision in where he saw neighbor against neighbor and city against city and it got so terrible he asked the Lord to shut it up? IMO these protests are a rapid acceleration of the events that will cause this vision to come true.

• 1 Nephi 21:26
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; they shall be drunken with their own blood as with sweet wine; and all flesh shall know that I, the Lord, am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.
• 1 Nephi 22:13
13 And the blood of that great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall turn upon their own heads; for they shall war among themselves, and the sword of their own hands shall fall upon their own heads, and they shall be drunken with their own blood.
• 2 Nephi 6:18
18 And I will feed them that oppress thee, with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood as with sweet wine; and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.
• Isaiah 49:26
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

• Doctrine and Covenants 101:89
89 And if the president heed them not, then will the Lord arise and come forth out of his hiding place, and in his fury vex the nation;
D&C 87
4 And it shall come to pass, after many days, slaves shall rise up against their masters, who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war.
5 And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry, and shall vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation.
6 And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations;
7 That the cry of the saints, and of the blood of the saints, shall cease to come up into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth, from the earth, to be avenged of their enemies.
• Ezekiel 32:9
9 I will also vex the hearts of many people, when I shall bring thy destruction among the nations, into the countries which thou hast not known.
Doctrine and Covenants 97:23
23 The Lord’s scourge shall pass over by night and by day, and the report thereof shall vex all people; yea, it shall not be stayed until the Lord come


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Postby Oldemandalton » Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:41 pm
So who is the whore? Who is oppressing the Saints? Who killed the modern day prophets? Who is guilty of not redressing the wrongs of the saints.

NoGreaterLove, this was a rhetorical question right?

The scriptures use many names; the little horn, great and abominable church, the whore of the earth, kingdom of Satan, secret combinations, etc.
Modern prophets have pointed out Marxists and Islamic Jihadists are secret combinations.

Cleon Skousen has added the “Super Rich” in the ‘Naked Capitalist’ and others have added other organizations such as the CFR, Bilderbergers, etc.

My theory is that there is a Master Mahan today who uses these groups for his nefarious ends and is the representative of the Kingdom of Satan on the earth just as God has called Thomas S. Monson to be His representative on earth. Remember that there is opposition in all things. Can you imagine the power of a Master Mahan who can get reports from any evil spirit watching mankind from anywhere around the world?

Your post reminded me of this scripture in the B of M and an article I posted long ago;

The Great and Abominable Church is digging the pit and will fall in themselves.

1 Ne 14: 3 And that great pit, which hath been[b] digged for them by that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hell—yea, that great pit which hath been digged for the destruction of men shall be filled by those who digged it, unto their utter destruction, saith the Lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that hell which hath no end.[/b]

The Pit is explained below with the ‘5 Stages of Collapse’ article.

The Five Stages of Collapse
Dmitry Orlov

Elizabeth Kübler-Ross defined the five stages of coming to terms with grief and tragedy as denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance, and applied it quite successfully to various forms of catastrophic personal loss, such as death of a loved one, sudden end to one's career, and so forth. Several thinkers, notably James Howard Kunstler and, more recently John Michael Greer, have pointed out that the Kübler-Ross model is also quite terrifyingly accurate in reflecting the process by which society as a whole (or at least the informed and thinking parts of it) is reconciling itself to the inevitability of a discontinuous future, with our institutions and life support systems undermined by a combination of resource depletion, catastrophic climate change, and political impotence. But so far, little has been said specifically about the finer structure of these discontinuities. Instead, there is to be found a continuum of subjective judgments, ranging from "a severe and prolonged recession" (the prediction we most often read in the financial press), to Kunstler's "Long Emergency," to the ever-popular "Collapse of Western Civilization," painted with an ever-wider brush-stroke.

For those of us who have already gone through all of the emotional stages of reconciling ourselves to the prospect of social and economic upheaval, it might be helpful to have a more precise terminology that goes beyond such emotionally charged phrases. Defining a taxonomy of collapses might prove to be more than just an intellectual exercise: based on our abilities and circumstances, some of us may be able to specifically plan for a certain stage of collapse as a temporary, or even permanent, stopping point. Even if society at the current stage of socioeconomic complexity will no longer be possible, and even if, as Tainter points in his "Collapse of Complex Societies," there are circumstances in which collapse happens to be the correct adaptive response, it need not automatically cause a population crash, with the survivors disbanding into solitary, feral humans dispersed in the wilderness and subsisting miserably. Collapse can be conceived of as an orderly, organized retreat rather than a rout.

For instance, the collapse of the Soviet Union - our most recent and my personal favorite example of an imperial collapse - did not reach the point of political disintegration of the republics that made it up, although some of them (Georgia, Moldova) did lose some territory to separatist movements. And although most of the economy shut down for a time, many institutions, including the military, public utilities, and public transportation, continued to function throughout. And although there was much social dislocation and suffering, society as a whole did not collapse, because most of the population did not lose access to food, housing, medicine, or any of the other survival necessities. The command-and-control structure of the Soviet economy largely decoupled the necessities of daily life from any element of market psychology, associating them instead with physical flows of energy and physical access to resources. This situation, as I argue in my forthcoming book, Reinventing Collapse, allowed the Soviet population to inadvertently achieve a greater level of collapse-preparedness than is currently possible in the United States.

Having given a lot of thought to both the differences and the similarities between the two superpowers - the one that has collapsed already, and the one that is collapsing as I write this - I feel ready to attempt a bold conjecture, and define five stages of collapse, to serve as mental milestones as we gauge our own collapse-preparedness and see what can be done to improve it. Rather than tying each phase to a particular emotion, as in the Kübler-Ross model, the proposed taxonomy ties each of the five collapse stages to the breaching of a specific level of trust, or faith, in the status quo. Although each stage causes physical, observable changes in the environment, these can be gradual, while the mental flip is generally quite swift. It is something of a cultural universal that nobody (but a real fool) wants to be the last fool to believe in a lie.

Stages of Collapse
Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in "business as usual" is lost. The future is no longer assumed resemble the past in any way that allows risk to be assessed and financial assets to be guaranteed. Financial institutions become insolvent; savings are wiped out, and access to capital is lost.

Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that "the market shall provide" is lost. Money is devalued and/or becomes scarce, commodities are hoarded, import and retail chains break down, and widespread shortages of survival necessities become the norm.

Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that "the government will take care of you" is lost. As official attempts to mitigate widespread loss of access to commercial sources of survival necessities fail to make a difference, the political establishment loses legitimacy and relevance.

Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that "your people will take care of you" is lost, as local social institutions, be they charities or other groups that rush in to fill the power vacuum run out of resources or fail through internal conflict.

Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in the goodness of humanity is lost. People lose their capacity for "kindness, generosity, consideration, affection, honesty, hospitality, compassion, charity" (Turnbull, The Mountain People). Families disband and compete as individuals for scarce resources. The new motto becomes "May you die today so that I die tomorrow" (Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago). There may even be some cannibalism.

Although many people imagine collapse to be a sort of elevator that goes to the sub-basement (our Stage 5) no matter which button you push, no such automatic mechanism can be discerned. Rather, driving us all to Stage 5 will require that a concerted effort be made at each of the intervening stages. That all the players seem poised to make just such an effort may give this collapse the form a classical tragedy - a conscious but inexorable march to perdition - rather than a farce ("Oops! Ah, here we are, Stage 5." - "So, whom do we eat first?" - "Me! I am delicious!") Let us sketch out this process.

Financial collapse, as we are are currently observing it, consists of two parts. One is that a part of the general population is forced to move, no longer able to afford the house they bought based on inflated assessments, forged income numbers, and foolish expectations of endless asset inflation. Since, technically, they should never have been allowed to buy these houses, and were only able to do so because of financial and political malfeasance, this is actually a healthy development. The second part consists of men in expensive suits tossing bundles of suddenly worthless paper up in the air, ripping out their remaining hair, and (some of us might uncharitably hope) setting themselves on fire on the steps of the Federal Reserve. They, to express it in their own vernacular, "[screwed] up," and so this is also just as it should be.

The government response to this could be to offer some helpful homilies about "the wages of sin" and to open a few soup kitchens and flop houses in a variety of locations including Wall Street. The message would be: "You former debt addicts and gamblers, as you say, '[screwed] up,' and so this will really hurt for a long time. We will never let you anywhere near big money again. Get yourselves over to the soup kitchen, and bring your own bowl, because we don't do dishes." This would result in a stable Stage 1 collapse - the Second Great Depression.http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2008/02/f ... lapse.html




The pit IMO is the crisis that is now being manufactured by the great and abominable church. Satan’s hope is to destroy the Church, first financially (less money, less missionary work and temples), then through tyranny and lose of religious and other freedoms. Lucifer also gets the benefit of death and destruction which he loves and revels in.

Using Orlov’s Five Stages this is what I see;

1.We have gone through stages one and two due to the printing of trillions of dollars (QE 1, 2 and 3?), the bail outs, and almost 0% interest rates which will cause the collapse of the dollar which will in turn collapse every other world currency since they were all tied to the dollar at Bretton Woods. The Euro may even go first and take us down with it.

2.Stage three began in Europe two years ago, spread to the Middle East and now here with the mass demonstrations created by the Marxist Revolutionaries, Unions, and Leftists Soros funded groups. They want this to increase in intensity till the people to cry for a solution.

3.Next they will offer the solution they have been planning for, “top down, bottom up, inside out”. "Capitalism failed so we must replace it with Socialism or even better Communism". “In order to create this new system and bring back peace and order we may have to sacrifice a few liberties for a while.” “A World Bank and World Currency would solve the financial crises.”

4.A Middle East War or even World War would be a nice touch to send the whole world over the cliff of collapse. One spark would set it off. Too many flash points around. After WW I we got the League of Nations. After WW II we got the United Nations. What are they planning after WW III? The whole World will go into stage 3, Political collapse. Wars will increase and governments across the globe will be overthrown by dictators or false 'democracies'. Evil men will desire to take over other regions as their economies collapse. What will countries like Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. be willing to do to salvage their countries and economies? Areas of the world and our country will fall to stages 4 & 5 during this period. Missionaries called home during the anarchy.

5.The plan is to have the sheeple of the world be convinced that a World Government and economic system will be required to save mankind. Do away with all these warring armies and have one world army. Do away with all of these collapsing governments when only one is needed. Have one police force. Have one religion incorporating all that is good and get rid of all of the religious strife.

The problem with digging a pit to trap your enemy is that you may fall in yourself. This is what God has prophesied will happen. The pit dug by Master Mahan and his secret combinations will be their own down fall. Hard to control a fire once it is set.


OMD

Saturday, April 30, 2011

POSSIBLE REASON TO STAY OUT OF DEBT - BESIDES WE HAVE BEEN COMMANDED TO

This is a completely random thought that just popped into my head as I was driving home a few nights ago and zoned out on the issues of the day.

If the stuff on this blog is half-way believable (to you), and you have read most of it, you will know that there are ample evidences here that there will be an epic struggle on our own soil. That struggle will involve Chinese soldiers here along with several other nations - I happen to speculate here on humanitarian missions after our civil war and to "help" mop up after the ensuing grave geological disasters, etc that are soon upon us.

I also expect us at some time in the near future to not be able to shoulder even the interest payments on our debt (see the debt counter clock below...) probably right before the civil war due to our inflationary explosion. We increasingly owe the Chinese more and more in the way of debt that we will have to default on. I always say that if I owe someone some money and tell them I will not pay it back - and happen to leave the garage door open one night - there is a degree of right to that person coming over and cleaning my valuable tools out and selling them for what he can get for them to make that debt right.

For those who have debts that the Chinese will be saddled with, they will have the right to come and dispose of them/their assets in order to cover that debt - once we are in a vulnerable position where we have no other options. I stands to reason that this individual might be sent to a concentration camp of sorts to work that debt off. Truly becoming a slave for all of our decadent living - not unlike Limhi's people in the Book of Mormon. To me a random thought. To those of us who have lived fatly upon the land in excess and with wanton disregard for what is good and right, possibly a reality in our future......

Thursday, January 13, 2011

CIVIL WAR TO START IN CHICAGO AREA OVER INFLATION - HMMMM WONDER WHY.....

Gov. Quinn promises to quickly sign Ill. tax hike
AP



Reps. Dan Brady, right, R-Bloomington, and Roger Eddy, R-Hutsonville confer on the House floor during a session at the state Capitol in Springfield, I AP – Reps. Dan Brady, right, R-Bloomington, and Roger Eddy, R-Hutsonville confer on the House floor during …


By DEANNA BELLANDI, Associated Press Deanna Bellandi, Associated Press – Wed Jan 12, 6:24 pm ET

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. – Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn defended a massive increase in state income taxes passed by lawmakers Wednesday and promised to quickly sign the measure to help heal the state's ailing finances.

Lawmakers worked overnight to pass the increase to raise the personal income tax rate from 3 percent to 5 percent for four years — a 66 percent increase. Corporate income taxes also will rise, but Quinn rejected the notion that it would decimate businesses.

The rate increase might be the biggest any state has adopted in percentage terms while grappling with recent economic woes. Nevertheless, Illinois' tax rate would remain lower than in several other states in the region.

"It's important for their state government not to be a fiscal basket case," Quinn told reporters outside his Capitol office.

Legislative leaders rushed early Wednesday to pass the politically risky plan before a new General Assembly was sworn in at noon, taking a slice out of the Democratic majority and removing lame-duck lawmakers willing to support the tax before leaving office.

The tax increase would temporarily raise the personal tax rate to 5 percent, a two-thirds increase from the current 3 percent rate. Corporate taxes also would climb as part of the effort to close a budget hole that could hit $15 billion this year. Quinn's office said the higher taxes will generate about $6.8 billion a year — a major increase by any measure.

The tax increase will be coupled with strict 2 percent limits on spending growth. If officials spend above those limits, the tax increase will automatically be canceled. The plan's supporters warned that rising pension and health care costs probably will eat up all the spending allowed by the caps, forcing cuts in other areas of government.

Other pieces of the budget plan failed.

Lawmakers rejected a $1-a-pack increase in cigarette taxes, which would have provided money for schools. They also blocked a plan to borrow $8.7 billion to pay off overdue bills, which means long-suffering businesses and social-service agencies won't get their money anytime soon.

House Speaker Michael Madigan said Republicans should have supported some parts of the plan instead of voting against everything. The proposal passed the House on Tuesday night 60-57, the bare minimum. No Republicans backed the measure there or in the Senate, where the measure passed 30-29.

"They're on the sidelines. They don't want to get on the field of play," the Chicago Democrat said. "I'm happy that the day has ended."

But Republicans noted they were not included in negotiations. They also fundamentally reject the idea of raising taxes after years of spending growth.

"We're saying to the people of Illinois, `For eight years we've overspent, now we're going to make it your problem,'" said Rep. Roger Eddy. "We're making up for our mistakes on your back."

The increase means an Illinois resident who now owes $1,000 in state income taxes will pay $1,666 at the new rate. After four years, the rate drops to 3.75 percent and that same taxpayer will then owe $1,250.

Republicans predict the tax eventually will be made permanent.

"It's a cruel hoax to play on citizens to say this is temporary," said House Minority Leader Tom Cross, R-Oswego.

Republicans also accused Democrats of doing irreparable harm to Illinois families and businesses. Business leaders decried the proposal as a job-killer.

"Based on this particular legislation the only businesses that will benefit are the moving companies that will be helping many of my members move out of this particular state," said Gregory Baise, head of the Illinois Manufacturers' Association.

Governors of some neighboring states quickly jumped on the issue. Republican Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who took office last week has already proposed a tax cut for businesses that relocate to Wisconsin from other states, invited companies to head north.

"Years ago Wisconsin had a tourism advertising campaign targeted to Illinois with the motto, 'Escape to Wisconsin,'" Walker said Wednesday in a statement. "Today we renew that call to Illinois businesses, 'Escape to Wisconsin.' You are welcome here."

Quinn scoffed at the notion. "Lots of luck to them, but that's not going to happen."

Democrats countered that even with the increase, Illinois' tax rate will be lower than in many neighboring states — Iowa's top rate is 8.98 percent, Wisconsin's is 7.75 percent. They also maintain that without more money, state government may not be able to pay employees by the end of the year.

Democrats also bristled at being blamed for the state's financial problems, although they've controlled the governor's office and both legislative chambers since 2003.

They said some of the problem began under Republican governors and that Republicans backed some budgets that increased spending. They argued the national recession sent state revenues into a nosedive and that Democrats already have cut spending by billions of dollars.

The new tax money will balance the state's annual budget and let officials begin chipping away at the backlog of unpaid bills. Borrowing money, and then repaying it with a portion of the tax increase, would have allowed those bills to be paid immediately, aiding organizations that provide services for the state but go months without being reimbursed.

The delay and the spending limits are "very troubling" to those groups, said Sean Noble, policy director for Voices for Illinois Children, a member of the statewide Responsible Budget Coalition. Still, he called the tax increase "an enormous step" toward putting Illinois on sound financial footing.

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Associated Press writers Christopher Wills and Zachary Colman in Springfield and Scott Bauer in Madison, Wis., contributed to this report.

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The bill is SB2505.

Saturday, February 6, 2010

GAS PRICE BY COUNTY - THERE WILL BE NO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AT THE END OF THE COLLAPSE




If you have read most of the forward looking US prophecies on this blog, you will have seen that one of the things they all have in common is that there will be no vehicles on the roads and movements of people will occur mostly on foot.

The gas/diesel will become scarce before that time which will be another cause of social panic and breakdown. If fossil fuel is one of your modes of energy to get you through, you should alter your plans to accommodate for heat and travel - or have an ample supply on hand, if you do plan on using it.

When you find us sending to troops to yet another locale (Korean penninsula), you will begin to see the fuel costs skyrocket. Here is a map that keeps an eye on prices. You can see which states have the highest gas taxes, which ones use more domestic oil supplies than others (Utah, Wyoming etc.) - just by watching the trends. This is also a good way to project how much that summer vacation with the big rig and trailer will cost you.

Here is the map:

http://gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx

Hope this comes in handy!!

Friday, April 3, 2009

SECOND COMING QUOTES AND PROPHECIES

I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN INTERESTING COLLECTION:

Disclaimer: Most prophecies concerning the judgments of God’s children are conditional upon performance of contracts, implied or expressed. There is usually an if and a repent portion of the collection clause of the contract.
Prophecies that appear to have been, or that appear to be in process of being, fulfilled are differentiated by italicized font.

CHURCH HEADQUARTERS AND THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS
1) The headquarters of the church will not always be located in the top of the mountains. The center stake will be located in Jackson County, Missouri. Discourses of Brigham Young, pg 74.
2) Jackson County, Missouri is the location of the Garden of Eden. Wilford Woodruff, pg 481.
3) The Lord will come to his temple at Zion in Jackson County. D&C Commentary, pg 196.
4) “An army of Elders will be sent to the four quarters of the earth to search out the righteous and warn the wicked of what is coming. All kinds of religions will be started and miracles performed that will deceive the very elect if that were possible. Our sons and daughters must live so as to be prepared for what is coming.
After a while the Gentiles will gather by the thousands to this place, and Salt Lake City will be classed among the wicked cities of the world. A spirit of speculation and extravagance will take possession of the Saints, and the results will be financial bondage.
Persecution comes next and all true Latter-Day Saints will be tested to the limit. Many will apostatize and others will be still not knowing what to do. The judgments of God will be poured out upon the wicked to the extent that our Elders far and near will be called home, or in other words, the gospel will be taken from the Gentiles and later carried on to the Jews.
The western boundary of the State of Missouri will be swept so clean of its inhabitants that, as President Young tells it, when you return to that place, there will not be so much as a yellow dog left to wag his tail. Before that day comes, however, the Saints will be put to the tests that will try the integrity of the best of them. The pressures will become so great that the more righteous among them will cry unto the Lord day and night until deliverance comes.
Then the Prophet (Joseph Smith) and others will make their appearance and those who have remained faithful will be selected to return to Jackson County, Missouri and take part in the upbuilding of that beautiful city, the New Jerusalem.” Deseret News, May 23, 1931
Heber C. Kimball

PROPHECIES RELATING TO FUTURE EVENTS IN AMERICA
1) The Gentiles will be allowed to possess this land provided they remain humble and do not utterly reject the mission of the Latter-Day church. 3 Nephi 21: 22-24
2) Faithful Gentiles in the last days will help in the building of the New Jerusalem.
3 Nephi 21: 23-24
3) America will remain a land of freedom only as long as the people who inhabit it continue to serve the God of the land. 2 Nephi 1: 6-7
4) The inhabitants of America in the last days to become so great, so politically powerful, and economically prosperous that their pride would be lifted up “above all other nations”, and above all people in the whole earth. 3 Nephi 16: 10

5) The inhabitants of America in the latter days will become a nation of liars, hypocrites, and murderers - addicted to all manner of licentiousness and practicing fraud upon one another through secret combinations. 3 Nephi 16: 10
6) The Gospel will be taken from the Gentiles. 3 Nephi 16:10
7) Forces will then be released that will then cut the Gentiles from off the face of the earth.
3 Nephi 21: 11,20
8) The American Indians will be driven by the Gentiles. 3 Nephi 16: 9

9) The Indians will be the means of conquering the Gentiles in the day of the Lord’s wrath. 3 Nephi 16: 5, 20:15-17, 21:12
10) The complete political and economic collapse for the Gentiles of this land if they become a wicked and degenerate nation. They will be deprived of their means of transportation, their chariots to be destroyed, their strongholds and fortresses will be torn to pieces and their mighty cities made a desolation. 3 Nephi 21: 15-20
11) New York, Albany, and Boston specifically mentioned as places to be destroyed if they reject the word of the Lord. D&C 84: 114-115
12) “And I am now prepared to say by the Authority of Jesus Christ, that not many years shall pass away before the United States shall present such a scene of bloodshed as has not a parallel in the history of our nation; pestilence, hail, famine, and earthquakes will sweep the wicked of this generation from off the face of the land, to open and prepare the way for the return of the lost Tribes of Israel from the north country.” Teachings of the Prophet J. Smith, pg 17
13) The children of Israel to be gathered and to inherit this land and the Gentiles to make the desolate cities to be inhabited. 3 Nephi 22: 3

14) “The American nation will be broken in pieces like a potter’s vessel and will be cast down to hell if it does not repent - and this because of murders, whoredoms, wickedness, and all manner of abominations, for the Lord has spoken it.” Wilford Woodruff, pg. 500

15) Joseph Smith said that the time would come when the Constitution of the United States would hang by a thread. Discourses of Brigham Young pg. 361

16) Joseph Smith said that in the hour that the Constitution would be in danger, the Elders of the Church would labor with their might to save the vestiges of democracy. The Progress of Man pg. 342

17) The Constitution will never be completely destroyed because at least the Latter-day Saints will hold it inviolate. The Progress of Man pg. 339-40
BUILDING THE NEW JERUSALEM (ZION)
1) The calling of the Saints to go back to Jackson County, Missouri will be after that section of the country is swept clean of all life. The desolate cities will be inhabited by the Ten Tribes after they come from the North. 3 Nephi 22: 3

2) “I saw a short distance from the Missouri River, where I stood, twelve men dressed in the robes of the temple. They stood in a square nearby, and I was given to understand that they represented the twelve gates of the New Jerusalem. Their hands were uplifted while they were consecrating the ground; and later they laid the cornerstones of the House of God. I saw myriads of angels hovering near them, and above their heads there was a pillar-like cloud. I heard the most beautiful singing in the words, “How is established the kingdom of our God and His Christ, and he shall reign forever and forever, and the Kingdom shall never be thrown down, for the Saints have overcome.” I saw people coming from the river and distant places to help build the temple. It seemed as though there were hosts of angels helping to bring material for the construction of that building. Some were in temple robes, and the pillar-like cloud continued to hover over the spot.” Wilford Woodruff, pg. 505

3) Site of the New Jerusalem and the Temple given by revelation.” 3 Nephi 16: 10
4) The building of the New Jerusalem to come only after much tribulation. 3 Nephi 16:10
THE GREAT PRIESTHOOD CONFERENCE AT ADAM-ONDI-AHMAN
1) Not far from the town of Gallatin, in Davies County, Missouri, is a place known as Spring Hill. By the Lord, however, this place was named “Adam-Ondi-Ahman” because it is the place where Adam shall sit, as spoken of by Daniel, the prophet. D&C 116
2) Adam held a great last meeting with his posterity at Adam-Ondi-Ahman shortly before his death. D&C 107: 53
3) Adam predicted at this last meeting all that should befall his posterity until the end. D&C 107: 54-57
4) Adam will prepare the Saints for the Second Coming of the Savior. Documentary History of the Church 3:386-7
5) At that meeting the Savior will receive the keys of all of the dispensations since Adam. The Way to Perfection pg. 40
6) ”When this gathering is held, the world will not know of it; the members of the Church at large will not know of it, yet the Savior will be there and it will be preparatory to the coming in the clouds of the glory of our Savior.” The Way to Perfection pg. 40
7) The pre-millennial appearance of the Savior at the New Jerusalem is clearly taught in the scriptures.
3 Nephi 20: 22, 21:2, D&C 45:66-67, 84:4-5, 97:15-17
8) Under the direction of the Savior three events will take place:
a) The Lamanite nations will be converted. 3 Nephi 21: 26
b) The Ten Tribes will be brought down from the North. 3 Nephi 21: 26
c) The righteous blood of Israel will receive a final call to gather out from all other parts of the earth and fell to America. All of this must be accomplished before the great and dreadful day of the Lord. 3 Nephi 21: 25-29


THE CONVERSION OF THE LAMANITES
1) When the Lamanites are converted, they will become white like unto the tribes of Ephraim. 2 Nephi 30:6
2) They will be highly spiritual, living all the commandments of the Lord, and considered by the other tribes of Israel as a righteous branch. 2 Nephi 9: 53
3) They will become progressive in their habits, attractive, cultural and gain in intellectual attainments. D&C 49: 24


THE COMING OF THE TRIBES FROM THE NORTH
1) The prophets among the Ten Tribes will spend a hundred years preparing for their return. The apostle John, as a translated being is fulfilling a mission to their tribes also preparing them for their future return. Essentials of Church History pg. 125
2) The Ten Tribes are separated from the main body. 3 Nephi 15: 19

3) The main body of the Ten Tribes is not among the Gentiles at all. 3 Nephi 15: 15-24
4) Brigham Young taught that the Ten Tribes of Israel are on a portion of the earth -- a portion separate from the mainland. Wilford Woodruff pg.442

5) The Ten Tribes are called outcasts because they are cast out from the knowledge of the nations unto a land by themselves. Voice of Warning pg. 30
6) Rocks and ice shall flow down at the presence of the Tribes coming from the north. D&C 133: 26
7) As they come to the great body of water, dry land will be cast up in the midst of it so that a great highway will spread before them. D&C 133: 37, Isaiah 11:16
8) The Ten Tribes will receive great blessings under the hand of the tribe of Ephraim. D&C 133: 32

9) Any enemies that will try to stop the migration of the Ten Tribes will literally be marched over in their progress. D&C 133: 28
10) The great highway across the water will be unsafe for the use of any other group other than the Ten Tribes. Isaiah 35:8-10
11) The Ten Tribes will bring with them their histories, records and scriptures. 2 Nephi 29:12-13
12) They will tell of many experiences including the visit of the Savior in the meridian of time. 3 Nephi 15: 12-13, 16: 1-3
13) The Ten Tribes will bring with them their precious metals, rare gems, and works of art, all to be used to establish the temple of the New Jerusalem. D&C 133: 30

14) When they arrive they will fall down and receive the crowning of glory under the hands of Ephraim. D&C 133: 32
THE GATHERING OF ALL OF THE SAINTS TO ZION
1) The Saints will come to Zion, not in haste nor as fugitives from persecution, but as Saints of God joyfully returning to the Land of Inheritance. 3 Nephi 21: 28-29
2) The Saints will come from all nations as the watchmen on the Mount of Ephraim urge them forward. Jeremiah 31: 6

3) The watchmen of the tribe of Ephraim are the officials and the Priesthood holders of the Church and the kingdom of God -- to whom all of Israel, save Judah alone, will come to receive their blessings. D&C 88: 84

4) From these Sons of Ephraim the Lord will select by revelation his special servants, they will:
a) Go to all sections of the earth finding the Saints and telling them to gather
b) Warn all nations and kingdoms and gather any repentant and righteous to Zion. They will seal all of those who reject their testimonies unto the day when the arm of the Lord will fall. Jeremiah 16:16, D&C 29:5, Rev 18: 4
5) The Priesthood must prepare themselves to exercise the sealing power of the Priesthood against those that reject them. D&C 88: 77, 133: 37
6) All will have the chance to hear the gospel in their own tongue. D&C 90: 11
7) The missionaries will be so pressed for time that they will teach it in the market places and along the road, and when they have done all that they can in the time allotted, they will leave that place never to return again. Micah 2: 12
8) The gathered Lamanites and members of the Ten Tribes will be so great in numbers that they will make a great noise by reason of their numbers. Micah 2: 12

9) There will be such a great group that they will overflow the land and spread out over the plains.
3 Nephi 22: 3
10) Water will be miraculously provided for the land of Zion. Isaiah 41:17-18
THE BEGINNING OF THE END
1) Lucifer will show his great powers when the missionaries are gathering the people. D&C 1: 35
2) Lucifer will give the sign-seeking telestial people great signs and wonders.
Revelations 16: 14

3) Lucifer will call down fire from heaven. Revelations 13: 13-15
4) Lucifer will raise up false Christs and prophets, and the very elect will be deceived, if not careful. Pearl of Great Price 7: 23

5) Satan will have control of all places other than Zion in those days and all his will have an identifying mark on their hand or forehead. Revelations 13: 16
6) Economic sanctions will be brought against anyone that does not have the mark. Revelations 13: 17
7) As a result of the sanctions nations will rise against nation causing famine. Mark 24: 15, P of GP 44: 29
8) The inhabitants of Zion will be the only ones on earth that will not be subjected to war. D&C 45: 69-70

9) Because of the rejections of the testimonies of the missionaries and the great wickedness of the people, the great destructions caused by nature will commence. D&C 88: 89-91
10) The earth will reel to and fro. D&C 88: 87
11) The stars will be hurled out of their places and the remainder will not give of their light. D&C 34: 9; 88: 87
12) The sun shall suddenly be darkened and the moon shall be bathed in blood. D&C 45: 42; 88:87

13) “…..then will appear one grand sign of the Son of Man in heaven. But what will the world do? They will say it is a planet, etc. But the Son of Man, which will be as the light of the morning, cometh out of the East.” April 6th, 1843. Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith DHC 5:336-387.

AMERICA TO BE CUT OFF FROM OTHER NATIONS
1) No flesh shall be safe on any water -- only those from other countries which are upright in their hearts will be allowed to go up to the land of Zion. D&C 61: 15-16
PARABLE OF THE TEN VIRGINS
1) Read the complete parable. Mathew 25: 8-12
2) “I have sworn in my wrath and decreed wars upon the face of the earth, and the wicked shall slay the wicked, and fear shall come upon every nation, and the Saints shall hardly escape...these things that ye must look for; and, speaking after the manner of the Lord, they are nigh at hand, and in a time to come, even in the day of the coming of the Son of Man. And until that hour there will be foolish virgins among the wise; and at that hour cometh an entire separation of the righteous and the wicked; and in that day I will send Mine angels to pluck out the wicked and cast them into an unquenchable fire.” D&C 63: 33-34; 53: 54

PROPHECY CONCERNING PALESTINE
1) “.....the Lord has decreed that the Jews should be gathered from all the Gentile nations where they have been driven, into their own land, in fulfillment of the words of Moses, their law-giver. And this is the will of your great Elohim, O house of Judah, and when ever you shall ever be called upon to perform this work, the God of Israel will help you. You have a great future and destiny before you and you cannot avoid fulfilling it; you are the royal and chosen seed, and the God of your Father’s house has kept you distinct as a nation for eighteen hundred years, under all the oppression of all the Gentile world. You may not wait until you believe on Jesus of Nazareth, but when you meet with Shiloh your king, you will know him; your destiny is marked and you cannot avoid it. It is true that after you return and gather your nation home, and rebuild your city and temple, that the Gentiles may gather together their armies to go against you to battle, to take you a prey and to take you as a spoil, which they will do, for the words of your prophets must be fulfilled; but when this affliction comes, the living God that led Moses through the wilderness, will deliver you , and your Shiloh will come and stand in your midst and fight your battles; and you will know Him, and the afflictions of the Jews will be at an end, while the destruction of the Gentiles will be so great that it will take the whole house of Israel who are gathered about Jerusalem, seven months to bury the dead of their enemies, and the weapons of war will last them seven years for fuel, so that they need not go to any forest for wood. These are tremendous sayings -- who can bear them? Nevertheless, they are true and will be fulfilled according to the sayings of Ezekial, Zechariah, and the prophets. Though the heavens and earth shall pass away, not one jot or tittle will fall unfulfilled.” Wilford Woodruff pg 509-510

2) On October 24th, 1842, Orson Hyde, a Jewish apostle (of the Quorum of the Twelve) of the Latter-Day church, journeyed to the city of Old Jerusalem, and from the Mount of Olives, poured out his heart in a prayer of dedication to the Lord. Essentials of Church History pg. 284



3) In the year of 1875, George Albert Smith, (another apostle of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles) was sent by Brigham Young to again dedicate the land and pray unto the Lord that his work might be hastened unto an opening of the way for the return of the exiled Jews. Comp. Hist. of the Church Vol5, pp 474-5


THE SECOND COMING
1) A single Gentile nation is going to eventually encompass all other Gentile nations of Asia and Europe so that they will form one large company together. At the head of this army of nations will stand a dominating prince of Japeth, an uncompromising, ruthless Gentile dictator. Ezekial Ch 38& 39
2) This great leader will “speak great words against the Most High....wear out the Saints of the Most High and think to change times and laws.” Daniel 7: 25

3) In the days of this leader any man who refuses to take up his sword and fight must flee to the American continent. D&C 45: 68-70
4) John saw the march of the highly mechanized armies under the leadership of this great dictator whom they called Gog. Revelations 11

5) The number of the ranks of this great army will number 200,000,000. Revelations 9: 16
6) The great army will make their last fight against the Jews and trod down a great portion of the city of Jerusalem, but they will not have power to destroy the people as a whole, for three and one half years the people will continue to survive the onslaught of Gog. Daniel 7: 25, Revelations 11: 2
7) The Jews will withstand this great army through the help of the Lord. He will raise up among the Jews two mighty prophets, and through their efforts the mighty war machine of Gog will grind to a halt as they meet the unexpected oppositions of these prophets when they march on the world capital of Judah. Revelations 11: 5-6
8) The two prophets will be killed and their bodies will lie in the streets of Jerusalem for three and one half days and then they will be resurrected. When they are, the Lord will come. Revelations 11

THE MILLENIUM
1) The Millennium to be a time of winding up the affairs of the earth life existence. D&C 76: 106-107

2) The great work of the Millennium is to bring about the literal brotherhood of man and prepare the whole human race for the great final judgment. D&C 133: 23-24, Revs. 16:18, Isaiah 40:4

3) The surface of the earth is to be changed. The earth will become smooth and productive. Luke 3: 5
4) The sea to be driven back into the North countries, the islands shall become one land, and the earth shall be like it was in the days before it was divided (in the days of Peleg - Genesis 10:25). D&C 133: 23-24

5) Great forests will grow up in the wilderness. Wilford Woodruff pg. 481
6) Rivers and springs will change the deserts and wastelands into farmlands. Isaiah 35: 7
7) Noxious weeds, briars, and thorns will give way to groves, orchards and profitable plant life. Isaiah 55: 13

8) The earth will become a “new earth” and the earth that we now know shall not be remembered or come to mind. Isaiah 65: 17-19

9) The earth will be transfigured in this state. D&C 63: 21
10) There shall be no sorrow because there will be no death. D&C 101: 29

11) Men shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye from a mortal to a resurrected being. D&C 65: 51
12) There will be no sin among the younger generations. D&C 45: 58

13) All enmity to cease between man and all of the rest of God’s creations. Isaiah 11: 6-9, 65: 25; Moses 2: 18
14) During the millennium, the language spoken will be that of the pure Adamic language. Zephaniah 3: 9
15) Satan will be bound during the millennium due to the righteousness of the people. D&C 88:110
16) The city of Enoch, which was caught up into heaven before the days of the flood shall be brought back to earth and joined with the City of The New Jerusalem. Moses 7: 63

17) A history of the world will be shown a thousand years at a time. D&C 88: 108-110
18) Astronomy and geology will be taught by revelation during the Millennium. Abraham 3:3, D&C 121: 28-31; 101: 32-34