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Showing posts with label ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. Show all posts
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Saturday, March 31, 2012

OUR TREASURE HAS BECOME SLIPPERY

When people will not adhere to good principle (such as the Zion belief in consecration), what they cling tightest to, will begin to fade and slide into obscurity. I have felt this in my own life when I am not centered on a Zion life.

Interesting words - I had to share:

Slippery Treasures--A Prophecy
By Larry Barkdull

When I first read the Book of Mormon as a boy, I encountered Samuel the Lamanite’s prophecy of “slippery treasures.” After discounting the notion that the treasures were greased, I wondered how they had slipped away. Did the treasures simply vanish? Did the Nephites experience widespread thievery? Over the years, knowing the Book of Mormon was written for us in the last days, I have pondered how the slippery-treasures scenario might play out again.

I need not speculate any longer. The event is upon us. The Book of Mormon story is more than account; it is a prophecy!

Mormon had the ability to foresee our day and marry latter-day troubles with Nephite events. One intriguing entry is Samuel the Lamanite’s prophecy of “slippery treasures.”

That Mormon would record Samuel’s words in such detail should signal to us their latter-day import. That Samuel delivered his message only years before the advent of the Savior, listing attendant destruction should add more weight to our latter-day consideration. That the resurrected Jesus would draw attention to Samuel and insist that his missing prophecies be recorded accurately should draw us into Mormon’s account and cause us to dissect and apply the principles.

Let us consider Samuel’s denunciation of the Nephites’ Babylon as that denunciation parallels Babylon today.

Samuel the Lamanite’s Denunciation of the Nephites’ Babylon

A few years before the birth of Christ, Samuel, a Lamanite prophet, entered the land of the Nephites to warn the people, cry repentance and prophesy of simultaneously glorious and catastrophic events. To set the stage, Mormon describes the Nephite world as one of “great wickedness.” Only a few “did observe strictly to keep the commandments of God.” The Nephites’ reaction to the prophet’s preaching ranged from disregard to violence.[i] Immediately, we see our latter-day condition mirroring that of the Nephites.

Frighteningly, Samuel warned that “the sword of justice hangeth over this people…. Yea, heavy destruction awaiteth this people, and it surely cometh unto this people, and nothing can save this people save it be repentance and faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.” The Nephites’ condition had resulted from “the hardness of the hearts of the people.” That hardness of heart was being manifested in a variety of ways:

The misuse of money that the Lord had given them.
Setting their hearts on acquiring riches.
Not hearkening unto the Lord or his prophets.
Neither remembering the Lord nor his blessings nor thanking him for them.
Always thinking about their riches and how to acquire more of them.
Their hearts were not “drawn out unto the Lord.”
“Great pride, unto boasting, and unto great swelling, envyings, strifes, malice, persecutions, and murders, and all manner of iniquities.”
Mocking and rejecting the prophets.[ii]

Following “Blind Guides”

Another sinful condition of the Nephites was their willingness to follow, idolize and uphold people who flattered their egos—“blind guides,”[iii] Samuel called these deceivers. The Nephites were more interested in the philosophies of these smooth-tongued “guides” than the prophets. The Nephites would enrich these people and canonize their words as if they were scripture.

“But behold, if a man shall come among you and shall say: Do this, and there is no iniquity; do that and ye shall not suffer; yea, he will say: Walk after the pride of your own hearts; yea, walk after the pride of your eyes, and do whatsoever your heart desireth--and if a man shall come among you and say this, ye will receive him, and say that he is a prophet. Yea, ye will lift him up, and ye will give unto him of your substance; ye will give unto him of your gold, and of your silver, and ye will clothe him with costly apparel; and because he speaketh flattering words unto you, and he saith that all is well, then ye will not find fault with him.”[iv]

“Blind guides” are those people who receive our support and adoration for flattering us with their mouth, but more often with their life-style. We give them riches for what they do not produce or contribute; we give them riches for being famous. These blind guides flatter us by parading the rewards that come from a lifestyle that glamorizes Babylon, and we applaud them for their having legitimized a life of wealth, self-indulgence, power, recognition, and excess.

Ripe for Destruction

The Lord’s spirit cannot abide in such wickedness. In Samuel’s day, only the presence of a few righteous individuals was holding back the judgments. But the clock was ticking. The gathering of the righteous was taking place. Soon the faithful few would be called out (or cast out). Then the wicked would be ripe for destruction,[v] and only the repentant would be spared.

The word ripe is intriguing. A fruit that is ripe will separate itself and fall from its mother tree. Ripeness is an interesting analogy for separating one’s self and falling away from the Tree of Life. In its insistence for a sinful, independent life from the tree, the ripe and fallen fruit can ultimately do nothing on its own except lie on the ground and rot.

Curses

Speaking for the Lord, Samuel pronounced a series of curses:

“I will take away my word from them.”
“I will withdraw my spirit.”
“I will suffer them no longer,” that is, I will not allow them to continue living this way.
“I will turn the hearts of their [enemies] against them.”
“I will cause that they shall be smitten…with the sword and with famine and with pestilence….I will visit them in my fierce anger.”
“Whoso shall hide up treasures in the earth shall find them no more…save he be a righteous man.”[vi]


Slippery Treasures

If the people cared little about the first five curses, the last one was sure to get their attention. This curse was aimed at what they loved most: their treasures. The curse stipulated that a righteous person was exempt; he could “hide up” his treasure unto the Lord—consecrate it—and he and the treasure would remain safe.

But a wicked person or a good person who still trusted in Babylon would not be so fortunate. Because he was in the selfish habit of hiding his treasure unto himself and not unto the Lord, he would soon discover to his horror that his treasure had become “slippery.”[vii]

Consequently, the fortunes of those who were wicked or those good people who still trusted in Babylon would slip away from them; the economy would collapse, and financial ruin would result: “And behold, the time cometh that he curseth your riches, that they become slippery, that ye cannot hold them; and in the days of your poverty ye cannot retain them.”[viii]

Vulnerability to Enemies

Then things would go from bad to worse. In the people’s impoverished situation, they would be vulnerable to attack from their enemies, particularly those enemies who constituted secret combinations. We note here that Samuel’s prophecies were followed by the near destruction of the nation by the Gadianton robbers.[ix] Samuel foretold that following the economic collapse the people would “flee before their enemies”[x] Their lamentations should strike fear in every person who trusts in his riches and adores Babylon:

And in the days of your poverty ye shall cry unto the Lord; and in vain shall ye cry, for your desolation is already come upon you, and your destruction is made sure; and then shall ye weep and howl in that day, saith the Lord of Hosts. And then shall ye lament, and say:

O that I had repented, and had not killed the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out. Yea, in that day ye shall say: O that we had remembered the Lord our God in the day that he gave us our riches, and then they would not have become slippery that we should lose them; for behold, our riches are gone from us.

Behold, we lay a tool here and on the morrow it is gone; and behold, our swords are taken from us in the day we have sought them for battle.

Yea, we have hid up our treasures and they have slipped away from us, because of the curse of the land.

O that we had repented in the day that the word of the Lord came unto us; for behold the land is cursed, and all things are become slippery, and we cannot hold them.

Behold, we are surrounded by demons, yea, we are encircled about by the angels of him who hath sought to destroy our souls. Behold, our iniquities are great. O Lord, canst thou not turn away thine anger from us? And this shall be your language in those days.

But behold, your days of probation are past; ye have procrastinated the day of your salvation until it is everlastingly too late, and your destruction is made sure; yea, for ye have sought all the days of your lives for that which ye could not obtain; and ye have sought for happiness in doing iniquity, which thing is contrary to the nature of that righteousness which is in our great and Eternal Head.

O ye people of the land, that ye would hear my words! And I pray that the anger of the Lord be turned away from you, and that ye would repent and be saved.[xi]

First economic collapse then vulnerability to attacks from our enemies!

Failure to Repent

After Samuel’s martyrdom, his prophecies began to be fulfilled. But the Nephites did not repent. Mormon reported that “there was but little alteration in the affairs of the people, save it were the people began to be more hardened in iniquity.” Neither economic cataclysms and vicious attacks from terrorists within their borders prodded them from their insanity.

Even when “great signs [were] given unto the people, and wonders; and the words of the prophets began to be fulfilled,” the Nephites hardened their hearts.”[xii] They simply would not believe the signs or respond to the Lord’s warning to repent.

Mormon identified four reasons why the people did not repent:

1) Prophecies are nothing more than good guesses: “Some things they [the prophets] may have guessed right, among so many; but behold, we know that all these great and marvelous works cannot come to pass, of which has been spoken.”

2) Prophecies do not make sense: “And they began to reason and to contend among themselves, saying: That it is not reasonable that such a being as a Christ shall come.

3) Prophecies are false traditions: “But behold, we know that this is a wicked tradition, which has been handed down unto us by our fathers, to cause us that we should believe in some great and marvelous thing which should come to pass… therefore they can keep us in ignorance.”

4) Prophets deceive us to keep us bound to them: “And they [the prophets] will, by the cunning and the mysterious arts of the evil one, work some great mystery which we cannot understand, which will keep us down to be servants to their words, and also servants unto them, for we depend upon them to teach us the word; and thus will they keep us in ignorance if we will yield ourselves unto them, all the days of our lives.”

Satan’s Great Hold on the People’s Hearts

Mormon informed us that the Nephites “began to depend upon their own strength and upon their own wisdom.” They “imagine[d] up in their hearts” “many more things” “which were foolish and vain.”

Mormon said that the people “were much disturbed, for Satan did stir them up to do iniquity continually; yea, he did go about spreading rumors and contentions upon all the face of the land, that he might harden the hearts of the people against that which was good and against that which should come. And notwithstanding the signs and the wonders which were wrought among the people of the Lord, and the many miracles which they did, Satan did get great hold upon the hearts of the people upon all the face of the land.”[xiii]

Latter-day Application

It is difficult to read this account and not see the condition of Babylon today.Clearly, we are mere years away from the Savior’s advent. The prophets are widely mocked, ignored, and often soundly rejected. Only a few Zion people practice righteousness, and perhaps for their sake the Lord is holding back the prophesied destruction.

The condition of Babylon’s citizens is defined by their hardness of heart.

They love their money and selfishly misuse it.
They always think about their riches and how to acquire more.
They will not hearken unto the Lord or his words.
They will not remember or thank the Lord for their blessings.
Their hearts are not “drawn out unto the Lord.”
Their lives are marked with “great pride,” boastings, envyings, strifes, malice, persecutions, and murders, and all manner of iniquities.”
They follow “blind guides,” who use flattering words to stroke their egos and legitimize a lifestyle that glamorizes wealth, self-indulgence, popularity, power and excess.

Now the curses of the Lord are becoming apparent and the prophecy of the slippery treasures is being fulfilled. Personal treasures are becoming unstable; economies are lying in ruins. In this condition, the people of Babylon are vulnerable to their enemies, especially those of secret combinations. Despite devastating events, they will not repent and return to the Lord. Rather, they find all sorts of reasons not to repent, and they grow in wickedness. Samuel might as well have been warning and prophesying to us today!

Go ye out from Babylon

Knowing the condition and future of Babylon, why do we try so hard to embrace her? The Lord has instructed us implicitly:

Go ye out from Babylon. Be ye clean that bear the vessels of the Lord…. Yea, verily I say unto you again, the time has come when the voice of the Lord is unto you: Go ye out of Babylon; gather ye out from among the nations, from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other…. Go ye out from among the nations, even from Babylon, from the midst of wickedness, which is spiritual Babylon.[xiv]

As we know, Babylon is simultaneously a location, the sum of false philosophies and doctrines, and a vile condition of the heart. While our present circumstances might not involve moving away from physical Babylon, we nevertheless must flee from spiritual Babylon. In unmistakable language, the Lord has commanded us to “forsake the world,”[xv] and “lay aside the things of this world, and seek for the things of a better.”[xvi] He charges us to escape for our own safety:

For after today cometh the burning--this is speaking after the manner of the Lord--for verily I say, tomorrow all the proud and they that do wickedly shall be as stubble; and I will burn them up, for I am the Lord of Hosts; and I will not spare any that remain in Babylon.[xvii]

If we choose to remain in spiritual Babylon, we do so at our own risk. Most certainly, we will be caught up in the destructions: “…that great whore, who hath perverted the right ways of the Lord, yea, that great and abominable church, shall tumble to the dust and great shall be the fall of it.”[xviii]

Come to Zion

The Lord’s command to leave Babylon is also an invitation to come to Zion with the Lord’s offer to help us arrive safely. Still, there is nothing easy about leaving Babylon and converting to a Zionlike way of life founded on celestial doctrines. Occasionally, we must be “stirred up” so that we might see the truth about Babylon and decide once and for all to leave. Blaine Yorgason writes:

Whether we think we need to give up [the things of Babylon] or not, it seems that the Lord is frequently willing to help us in the giving up of worldly things. He might do this by allowing financial reversals to occur, bringing loss of homes, cars, boats, and incomes; personal or corporate bankruptcy; and so forth. We might also experience a severe loss of health or death of a loved one, which can do the same thing by making worldly things unattractive or meaningless….

This is called being stirred up unto repentance. In this case, however, I will substitute the word humility, which always strikes at the heart of pride, vanity, and worldliness! ‘Behold, the world is ripening in iniquity; and it must needs be that the children of men are stirred up unto humility, both the Gentiles and also the house of Israel’ (D&C 18:6); and, ‘The kingdom of the devil must shake, and they which belong to it must needs be stirred up unto repentance, or the devil will grasp them with his everlasting chains, and they…perish’ (2 Nephi 28:19). When we experience this divine assistance in leaving behind the things of the world—and to some degree we will all experience it—then above all else we ought to be filled with joy and rejoicing in the Lord’s goodness and mercy (D&C 52:43).”[xix]

Zion is and always has been the safety and security of the Saints. However, having one foot in Babylon and the other in Zion will never work. We simply cannot choose both ways, because Zion and Babylon are mutually exclusive—exact opposites.

Samuel warned the Nephites that they had to choose, and we need only read the account to see the consequences of those who chose Babylon over Zion. The Book of Mormon testifies that the few who chose a Zion way of life were kept safe from the calamities, and shortly thereafter, the Lord came and established Zion among them. And, depending on our choice, so it shall be with us.

Tuesday, March 6, 2012

A BOOK ON SURVIVING CIVIL WAR II

Folks, I normally don't have commercials, but I guess this is one that could qualify - or maybe just a good book report.....

This guy has all the charts I have been looking at for years - and the same ones that a co-worker (an engineer with an MBA with zero religious background) of mine has been looking at and, who has come to the same to the same conclusion I have. THE SHIP IS SINKING FOLKS! If you can't see it and have done zero to prepare for it, then I just pity you for what is coming your way.

Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iwNp5v-hGY

CLICK HERE

Monday, February 27, 2012

STATE PREPARING FOR ECONOMIC/SOCIAL COLLAPSE

Folks, this is serious as a heart attack. We now have members of the Union (including Texas) making solid plans to deal with the contingency of a total collapse that would largely spare them from the chaos.

I cannot believe this is happening in my lifetime:

Wyoming lawmaker introduces doomsday bill
By msnbc.com staff

CHEYENNE – Fearing an economic and political collapse nationwide, Wyoming lawmakers are moving ahead with legislation to deal with a doomsday scenario -- complete with plans to create a state currency.

“Things happen quickly sometimes — look at Libya, look at Egypt, look at those situations,” the bill’s GOP sponsor State Rep. David Miller told the Star-Tribune in Casper. “We wouldn’t have time to meet as a Legislature or even in special session to do anything to respond.”
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According to the Star-Tribune, House Bill 85 would create a state-run “government continuity task force,” to prepare Wyoming for potential disruptions in food and energy to a complete breakdown of the federal government.
Miller is also asking for the task force to look into creating its own state currency in the event the dollar loses value entirely.

The Wyoming House of Representatives advanced the legislation on Monday, but eliminated language calling for plans to implement its own military draft, army and acquire an aircraft carrier.

The bill now must pass two more House votes before it would head to the Senate for consideration.

“I don’t represent people in Illinois or New Jersey. I represent people in Wyoming,” Miller said. “And I want them to be protected from any catastrophic events that may beset the rest of the country.”

Monday, November 21, 2011

DOLLAR COLLAPSE COMING

There is not an ounce of bad info on this Stansberry Report special:

CLICK LINK

I do not necessarily endorse what he says to do to shield your financial assets from the collapse, but I do agree with what he says is coming. Listen to the part about the NORMALCY BIAS. The Book of Mormon has something to say about that phenomenon....

Tuesday, August 9, 2011

MAX SOLAR FLARE EVENT - ELENIN-RELATED?

I am keen to stay abreast of these things. Just had an M-class event last week. This one was the strongest possible - an X-class event. Up until I read this article, I did not know that there was something stronger than an M-class flare:

CLICK LINK

I expect to see a rapid escalation of these kinds of things as Elenin approaches with the culmination occurring the end of September into November when the crud hits the oscillator. Very interesting stuff!

Also, the global financial meltdown is right on schedule for this October timeframe. Man, am I ever jittery on all these events occurring at the same time. According to Sols Guardisto, the economic, social and natural disasters would all come together into a perfect crescendo as if they were designed to bring the collapse about..... Um, I am seeing this all occurring in unison to create the perfect storm this Fall.

Thank goodness I am not a "doom and gloomer".....

Thursday, July 7, 2011

PRICE OF WHEAT WILL SKYROCKET THIS YEAR

I am over in Montana right now setting up our next situation. In the local rag, the headline article declares that rust is invading the local crops (and across the US) due to a wet spring. One of the local farmers in the valley says that this is the worst he has seen it in the 25 years he has been wheat farming.

This is one of the signs that Bishop John Koyle said would happen the year of the total collapse (where there wouldn't be any financial institutions left).

This rust fungal infestation on top of our existing 30% increase in prices YOY, will cause a spike on top of a spike - which ultimately will lead to food riots in most third world nations. And then after our collapse, in our third world nation....

What I am trying to say is GET YOUR FOOD STORAGE NOW!!!

Wednesday, May 18, 2011

50 THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE

Definitely worth passing along. If you have not felt it, you will soon enough. If you do not have food storage and your spiritual and financial houses in order, I pity you. No one will be left unaffected - this is it.

Do your research on this stuff if you do not believe it:

CLICK ON LINK

Wednesday, March 23, 2011

PRAY FOR GLENN BECK

If ever there was a guy that is right on the money (99% of the time), it is Glenn Beck. He is a slightly moderated voice for all of the stuff on this blog and he is taking ALOT of heat by people who hate the truth. He is simply preaching reality and people cannot handle the truth..... Sad, really. Sometimes it stares you in the face and you are so disconnected from reality through pride, ignorance and prejudice that you cannot see it. That is how alot of people in this country (probably a majority, now) are. It is a rift that freaks me out - similar to what we saw before the first (un)Civil War where people could not see the light on the morality of enslaving another human being for your own personal gain.

It is soon after things reach critical mass that people are thrown in to a tail-spin and end up completely in bondage or dead.... Not that we are not already in financial and moral bondage. Here is something I thought worthy of taking a look at. These SEIU socialist/marxist pukes need some serious time in the pokey for sedition. Better yet, lets put up the gallows and let 'em swing. I am not a big fan of Wall Street, etc, but bringing this country down with intent is terrorism and affects all of us:

http://www.businessinsider.com/seiu-union-plan-to-destroy-jpmorgan (CLICK ON THE LINK)

Tuesday, March 8, 2011

UTAH GOING BACK TO GOLD/SILVER STANDARD A FULFILLMENT OF PROPHECY?

I love to scan the news and go "check!" when something happens (or is in process) on the prophetic timeline laid down by those with the gift..... Here is the article on Utah's possible move to the gold standard (click colored text).

Here is something purported to be from Joseph Smith first recorded over 130 years ago - and I do have to say we are in it right now:

"The time will come when the banks of every nation will fall and only two places will be safe where people can deposit their gold and treasure. This place will be the White Horse and England's vaults. A terrible revolution will take place in the land of America, such as has never been seen before; for the land will be left without a Supreme Government, and every specie of wickedness will be practiced rampantly in the land. Father will be against son and son against father; mother against daughter and daughter against mother. The most terrible scenes of bloodshed, murder and rape that have ever been imagined or looked upon will take place. People will be taken from the earth and there will be peace and love only in the Rocky Mountains. This will cause many hundreds of thousands of the honest in heart of the world to gather there, not because they would be Saints, but for safety and because they will be so numerous that you will be in danger of famine, but not for want of seed, time and harvest, but because of so many to be fed. Many will come with bundles under their arms to escape the calamities for there will be no escape except only by escaping and fleeing to Zion. Those that come to you will try to keep the laws and be one with you for they will see your unity and the greatness of your organization.

Saturday, February 26, 2011

FEELINGS OF UNEASINESS - ECONOMIC DISTRESS

When I got married and then covenanted with the Lord to bring children into the world (as many as we could safely have), I also made a request that I be given special help in the direction that I go to lead my sweetheart and children to relative financial safety - so long as we obeyed the Lord's law of tithing that is tied to Him prospering us. I have felt the hand of the Lord so many times directing our family to the point that I have never sustained a missed day of employment since we embarked on the journey of making and raising our family - and I give all credit to the Lord because of the many miracles surrounding that journey. One thing that sticks out in my mind was the time right before September 11th, 2001. We had just welcomed our 3rd child into the world and it was a very spiritual time - the golden years so to speak of us having the little ones and I will always look at that time with fondness even though we ended up losing that third child. A few weeks after he was born, with the spirit of prophecy upon me, I came home and declared that "something big is going to happen and it is going to affect my employment". My wife, of course, mostly blew me off but asked me what and when it would be. I said that I did not know what it would be, but I was sure that it would happen within the next six months. I began a series of steps to make sure our financial hatches were battened down and things were water tight. I was not sure if I would be out of a job in the next few months, or what it would be.

Six weeks later, September 11th happened and my CEO (of a large aerospace company) made a company-wide announcement that they would have to trim the company by half its work force in order to survive. I had been with the company for exactly four years - where the average employee seniority was twenty plus years. I felt doomed.

The Lord came through for me - instead of getting a pink slip and a walk out the door I got a promotion and a healthy raise as a manager worked strenuously to save my job after a plane crash due a system that I just happened to be a subject matter expert on (in my four short years with the company). The Lord knew where to put me so that I could not only survive - but thrive. So I listen for those gentle whisperings of the Spirit that some would call intuition, inner guidance, etc because I know that those gentle nudgings and impressions make a difference in my life.

The reason I bring up all this history is that I am getting an uneasy feeling again. Our dollar is nearing its collapse. I do not know how or when - but it is coming. From what I have researched (the stuff on this blog), it will happen between May and October. I would hazard a guess of October 11th (or the weekend before) with the bad news coming out on Tuesday after the banks open again for business. If I had cash assets, I would convert them to things that will provide shelter (that can't be repossessed by a bank, if possible), food that is storable - and up to seven years worth, and fuel to stay warm in inclement weather. I would also have the means to protect my family and to grow a garden using seeds that are non-hybridized. Precious metals will be useful in the short-term, but in the long-term, food will be the critical thing to stay alive.

I could be completely off - but that is what I am feeling for myself. I have been wrong before, but the feeling is becoming relentless as time goes on and I have learned not to ignore it. Our financial landscape is about to change forever. Ponder, pray and find out for yourself. Then take quick steps to secure your future before food prices rocket beyond your control.

Monday, May 31, 2010

REPOST FROM AN EARLIER POST ON SOCIAL COLLAPSE

My family spent a great Sunday evening over at a family of some friends and we talked about some of this "blog" stuff. I quote the fringie stuff to see where people are at in their faith and ability to believe (what is the less bizarre stuff we will witness in the coming decades), because that is where I find a majority of the truth may lie - stuff that was thrown out because it was too unbelievable to the wicked masses and learned ones who were too intelligent for the 'nonsense'. Here is a quote from the so-called 'White horse' prophecy that has been largely thrown out - which I think we seem to find ourselves in today - to the letter:

"Our nation ... is rent, from center to circumference, with party strife, political intrigues, and sectional interest; ... our merchants are paralyzed, our tradesmen are disheartened, our ... credit ruined, and our states overwhelmed in debt," --Joseph Smith



This family group was one of the few groups of people that didn't give me a collective "glazed-over" look. They will probably make it through it all just fine so long as the basic telestial law and associated commandments are being kept to qualify them. There was a younger couple (with small kids and another on the way) at the gathering and I felt bad that this all might have scared them to some degree. Having lost a child in the night to SIDS - and coming away from that experience not embittered, but knowing with a solid certainty that God is completely in control - I do not feel concerned for the future if I have followed all the counsel of the Lord to the letter and that I am striving to my best possible to keep the commandments as I know them. It really is a lot like child birth that I watched my brave wife endure. There was trepidation knowing a somewhat physically and psychologically challenging event with a known outcome was coming. None of us would ever try and cut that experience short or somehow avoid it out of fear - but we charge on knowing it is how things are supposed to come out (good or bad), knowing the sweet, sweet joy that awaits on the other side of the event.

As in child birth, so is the coming of the Son of Man going to be. A "portent of stormy weather lies ahead" - but we charge on knowing we can raise our sweet innocent ones 'on the other side of the event', in an environment of peace, love and joy punctuated with personal visits by the Savior. I would gladly give myself to have that experience - not as one without hope due to despair and ungodly living, but because of the love of God that I know exists on the other side of sorrow and tragedy; the love I felt the night God saw fit to take our child home. It is exquisite and I would give (give up) anything to live in that environment in perpetuity.

Having said that, I repost this from an earlier thread. This might better be posted as a treatise on the coming (second) civil war in the U.S which will end in the "death and misery of many souls":

"The time will come when the banks of every nation will fall and only two places will be safe where people can deposit their gold and treasure. This place will be the White Horse and England's vaults. A terrible revolution will take place in the land of America, such as has never been seen before; for the land will be left without a Supreme Government, and every specie of wickedness will be practiced rampantly in the land. Father will be against son and son against father; mother against daughter and daughter against mother. The most terrible scenes of bloodshed, murder and rape that have ever been imagined or looked upon will take place. People will be taken from the earth and there will be peace and love only in the Rocky Mountains. This will cause many hundreds of thousands of the honest in heart of the world to gather there, not because they would be Saints, but for safety and because they will be so numerous that you will be in danger of famine, but not for want of seed, time and harvest, but because of so many to be fed. Many will come with bundles under their arms to escape the calamities for there will be no escape except only by escaping and fleeing to Zion. Those that come to you will try to keep the laws and be one with you for they will see your unity and the greatness of your organization.

"The Turkish Empire of the Crescent will be the first power to be disputed, for freedom must be given for the Gospel to be preached in the Holy Land. The Lord took of the best blood of the nations and planted them on the small islands now called England and Great Britain and gave them power in the nations for a thousand years and their power will continue with them that they may keep the balance of power; and they will keep Russia from sweeping her power over the world. England and France are now bitter enemies but they will be allied together and be united to keep Russia from conquering the world. The two popes, Greek and Catholic, will eventually come together in their decline and be united. The Protestant Religions do not know how much they are indebted to Henry VIII for throwing off the Pope's bill and establishing the Protestant faith. He was the only monarch who could do so at that time and he did it because the nation was at his back to sustain him. One of the peculiar features in England is the established Red-coat; a uniform making so remarkable a target to shoot at, and yet they have conquered wherever they have gone. The reason for this will be known to them some day as red is seen in a different color threading through under all history. The lion and the unicorn of England comes from there being so much blood of Israel in the nation. While the terrible things of which I have mentioned are going on, England will be neutral until it becomes so inhuman that she will interfere to stop the shedding of blood and history will be more properly understood. England and France will unite together to make peace, not to subdue the nations. She will find this nation so broken up and so many claiming government, till there will be no reasonable government. Then it will appear to the other nations, or powers, as though England had taken possession of the country. The Black Horse will flee to the invaders and will join them for they have fear of becoming slaves again; knowing that England did not believe in slavery, they will flee to them that they believe will make them safe. Armed with British bayonets, the doings of the Black Horse will be terrible." Here the Prophet said that he could not bear to look longer upon the scenes as shown to him in vision and he asked the Lord to close the scenes.
"Our nation ... is rent, from center to circumference, with party strife, political intrigues, and sectional interest; ... our merchants are paralyzed, our tradesmen are disheartened, our ... credit ruined, and our states overwhelmed in debt," --Joseph Smith

And what about this letter written to someone regarding the topic they discussed with Joseph Smith
Second Great Rebellion (Chicago) Quote

A. Milton Musser papers, LDS Church Archives. It is a letter from
Nephi Packard to A. Milton Musser on July 24, 1896:

"... My brother, Noah Packard, says that he heard the Prophet Joseph
say that the next great (U.S. civil) war after the war of the
rebellion (the Civil War of the 1860's between the North and the
South) would commence in a little town now called Chicago but at that
time it would have grown to be a very large city. And another brother
told me that the Prophet said that the cause of the next great trouble
of the United States would be the depreciation of the currency of the
United States. I believe I have given you all the facts in as short
and concise manner as possible."

Another quote regarding the Civil War itself comes from an interview
by Dr. Poulson with David Whitmer, printed in the Deseret News on
Friday, August 16, 1878:

Question: When will the temple be built in Independence?

Answer: Right after the great tribulation is over

Question: What do you mean by that?

Answer: A civil war more bloody and cruel than the rebellion. It will
be the smashing up of this nation, about which time the second great
work has to be done, a work like Joseph did, and the translation of
the sealed plates and peace all over

WHAT!!! "the next great trouble
of the United States would be the depreciation of the currency of the
United States." How would somebody just think of something like that a put it in their journal? This is happening right now, or in the next couple yrs.


And yet another Prophecy:

The Hancock Prophecy

There will be two great political parties in this country. One will be
called the Republican, and the other the Democrat
party. These two parties will go to war and out of these two parties
will spring another party which will be the
Independent American [sic] Party. The United States will spend her
strength and means warring in foreign lands until other nations will
say, "Let's divide up the lands of the United States," then the people
of the U.S. will unite and swear by the blood of their fore-fathers
that the land shall not be divided. Then the country will go to war,
and they will fight until one half of the U.S. Army will give up, and
the rest will continue to struggle. They will keep on until they are
very ragged and discouraged, and almost ready to give up - when the
boys from the mountains will rush forth in time to save the American
Army from defeat and ruin. And they will say, "Brethren, we are glad
you have come; give us men, henceforth, who can talk with God." Then
you will have friends, but you will save the country when it's [sic]
liberty hangs by a hair, as it were.

- Prophet and presidential candidate Joseph Smith, 19 June 1844, as
recorded in the autobiography of Mosiah Lyman Hancock. See Duane S.
Crowther, Prophecy - Key to the Future, p. 10.

Monday, December 7, 2009

ECONOMIC COLLAPSE - I HAVE SOME PUDDING FOR THE PROOF YOU SEEK




For about a decade now, I have been calling the coming of an economic meltdown - partly from things I have read:

“An army of Elders will be sent to the four quarters of the earth to search out the righteous and warn the wicked of what is coming. All kinds of religions will be started and miracles performed that will deceive the very elect if that were possible. Our sons and daughters must live so as to be prepared for what is coming.
After a while the Gentiles will gather by the thousands to this place, and Salt Lake City will be classed among the wicked cities of the world. A spirit of speculation and extravagance will take possession of the Saints, and the results will be financial bondage.
Persecution comes next and all true Latter-Day Saints will be tested to the limit. Many will apostatize and others will be still not knowing what to do. The judgments of God will be poured out upon the wicked to the extent that our Elders far and near will be called home, or in other words, the gospel will be taken from the Gentiles and later carried on to the Jews.
The western boundary of the State of Missouri will be swept so clean of its inhabitants that, as President Young tells it, when you return to that place, there will not be so much as a yellow dog left to wag his tail. Before that day comes, however, the Saints will be put to the tests that will try the integrity of the best of them. The pressures will become so great that the more righteous among them will cry unto the Lord day and night until deliverance comes.
Then the Prophet (Joseph Smith) and others will make their appearance and those who have remained faithful will be selected to return to Jackson County, Missouri and take part in the upbuilding of that beautiful city, the New Jerusalem.” Deseret News, May 23, 1931
Heber C. Kimball


and gained a witness of and partly due to a gut feel and sense of impending economic disaster - which has compelled me to try and follow the counsel to stay out of debt. Since I read Iohanni, I would say that my feelings went from an assurance of just a simple meltdown to one of a complete economic collapse that a pampered people will not endure causing extreme civil unrest, and finally the total chaos that the ancient Nephites endured right before Christ came (tribal breakdown). I have always wondered exactly what the socio-economic trigger would be and I am pretty confident that I have the answer. Who would have guessed. I guess we all should have. The US (for prophecie's sake) will have to collapse so that the one world power can take over and rule the hearts and minds of the people and cause the great and final setup for the wicked people of the earth. The clear and definitive and raw evil to provide a contrast for Christ's simple, pure ways. A clear and simple choice will have to be made. Some incredible things (proofs) will be brought forth for all peoples of the earth to see. All MUST choose. What an exciting time we live in!

But for now, we are in the economic melt-down stage - and it may take some time for quite a large economic ship such as ours to founder and then ultimately sink.

This US UNEMPLOYMENT MAP is a great little indicator of how widespread this recession is. I believe that we are further along than this map indicates. The actual unemployment numbers are closer to 17%, or higher. The official 10% that is being published are those that are ACTIVELY seeking employment. Alot of folks have bowed out of the job hunt to lay low for a while.

Iohanni said the collapse would start in the 3rd year of the second term of the son of Pres. Bush, Sr. That unemployment map shows it just as predicted - but does not show the clear data of the housing bubble collapsing in August 2007. The housing collapse then spread to other sectors of the economy and showed clearly as the months progressed into 2008.