XXXXXX,
Sorry about the twenty questions. I just do not much like the trolls out there
who just want to sow discord and malcontent – there is enough that occurs
naturally in the rub of life without people setting about to foment more,
right? It sounds like you are not of
that nature.
I too, find it very interesting how Julie’s message has
created discord. My take on it is as
follows: Julie has a strong message that
kind of binds several previous “messengers’” messages into one. There was Iohanni Wolfgramm, Sarah Menet and
a few other LDS folk with NDEs and prophetic messages warning of impending
calamity in the world. Many were piqued
by their message, but many did not respond because it was a lone voice or two
and they did not have anything to relate it to, as we were not hearing dire
warnings out of SLC (General Conference, Ensign, etc).
The changer for many people is that probably a majority of
people out there (myself included), have been warned in their own personal revelations
(dreams, NDE, the occasional waking vision), that things that Julie speaks of
are going to happen. They are too afraid
to tell their friends/family that they have had this experience because of
strong cultural norms that (I believe erroneously) say that anything of a
nature that affects those other than your family MUST come through the proper
channels – ie TOP DOWN. When it comes to
Church policy – this IS the case. When
it comes to things that WILL affect your family (BUT, will also affect others
collaterally), I believe many people can have personal revelation that points
to a common event. This is perfectly
fine to share and warn over, so long as it does not undermine the function of
the current leadership. If asked to stop
sharing by a higher up, I believe it should be done out of respect and to
preserve harmony within the body of the Saints.
So, when I speak of the “rank and file”, there is much
discord within them. The group I
mentioned above can strongly feel and even “know” that something is coming and
then there is the crowd who feels that “all is well in Zion” and “we are not
hearing it from SLC, so sit down, shut-up and be quiet”. I have gotten hammered from this crowd. To the point that I have often felt socially
and even to the point of physical threatening where I simply have chosen to
attend another ward outside my geographical boundaries while I am in
Seattle. The “all is well in Zion” crowd
– the probably crowd that has also inspired Julie to have a security detail
wherever she goes – has “too much skin in the game”, so to speak. This would include houses in the destruction
zones, businesses that deal in money and futures and who often are lawyers,
doctors, etc. All of these lives and
life-styles will be done away with in the new order of peace and prosperity
that is no longer parasitic in nature (those who rely upon others’ misfortunes
in order to make a living). People are
addicted to money and things the existing worldly order can bring – so talk of
that paradigm being suddenly changed and a new paradigm based on giving all
that we have to the poor, living in tent cities for a time, having little to
eat as we suffer with indigents who have fled coastal areas currently slated
for destruction (after the SLC area is first destroyed), then you have anger
and disbelief. If you look at the
reasons they cast Lehi or Samuel the Lamanite out, it was for the same reasons –
people railing against those who spoke of destruction of their great cities and
the great social order which has been built up around them. Those railing, failing to look into the
recent human past at the former great cities, one piled upon the other, as
civilizations have likewise been thrust into the dust heap.
Julie has said that first, SLC will be wiped out. Then the west and east coasts will be wiped out, the middle
will be wiped out and the current
government will be wiped out as Christ comes upon the scene and establishes a
One World Theocratic and Patriarchal Government
based out of the center point of the US (this will differ completely
from the existing One World ‘Conundrum’ in that it will not be built up by
force or manipulation, but out of people longing for mutual safety and hope
from the wreckage from the current attempt using the principles of man that the
NWO is attempting in Russia). This
threatens the status quo to the maximum possible. This is the LDS doctrine – but it is not
accepted by most and denied by those at the top, as it seems a little over the
top in today’s political climate.
That is how I view things in a nut shell. This in no way is an official Church position. Just my personal musings. It has been prophesied that the Church will experience great
division and internal strife. We are
entering it right now based on this and the whole marriage issue.
Here is a link to most everything I have put out there on
Julie Rowe:
Like I said earlier, I am neutral on her. I have seen her report little else than I
have seen already written by others, so I am holding judgment on her until I
have something new that I can take to the Lord.
She simply is another witness for what others have said is coming. I will say that I believe she is COMPLETELY
sincere and has no guile in her. If I
were the Lord trying to get a message out through the “back channels”, I would
use someone like her to get it done (stuff like this that will largely affect
only the USA would not come thru a normalized channel in SLC, as it might freak
other people out who will not be directly affected). I also feel that what she is going thru to
get this out there, has been extremely hard on her and she is not getting
anything really out of it to offset the “pain factor”, much as Joseph Smith
with his message. The “hassle” factor
FAR outweighed the possible “personal gain” factor (attention, fame, monetary
reward, etc), which then only leaves you to question personal sanity past a
certain point……
Even Christ's government seems to have built in checks and balances. Even though he is perfect and Cambridge trusted completely, he has a division of church and state. Out of one of the main cities goes forth the law, and out of the other, the word. (Speaking of old and new Jerusalem's). When I find the Scripture, I will post it, or someone else Can.
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