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Friday, April 12, 2013

DEBUNKING ALBERT PIKE'S WWIII VISION - ANALYSIS BY JOEL SKOUSEN

Got this in from a reader.  Thought it was good to share.  I have no respect for the man (Albert Pike), and after reading a book from a different reader, "There Are Save Two Churches Only" (deep but recommended reading) - I get the feel that the Masons worship this guy.  I also get the final judgment on the Masonic institution as an organ of Lucifer.  I received several thousand dollars of scholarships to the school of my choice back in the late 1980's from the local and state chapters and even ate an acceptance dinner in their local lodge, passing between the pillars of Boaz and Joachim and noting how odd they were, but I now have to reject them and the Shriners as a more sinister organ than the "service" organization they came across as at the time.

I used to ride the bus with someone who was working himself up thru the ranks and I finally was able to detect him as a "appearing good on the surface, but nasty deep down" kind of guy once I put the screws to him and started asking some serious questions.

Anyway, here you go for the few that will be interested in this kind of thing:

I've long wondered about the supposed Albert Pike "prophecy" concerning WWIII, whether or not it was true.  Here's Joel's (Skousen) take on that prediction:
ALBERT PIKE’S VISON OF THREE WORLD WARS A FRAUD
I mention this as a follow on to the North Korea and China analysis because many believers in conspiracy have been influenced by the claim by many that Albert Pike, the Grand Master of Free Masonry, had a vision in 1871 about three future world wars and that the third would start in the Middle East. This is very much opposed to my view that the coming Middle East war will NOT expand into World War III and that it will merely be preparatory to building the West’s image as the Bully of the World, which will later be used by Russia and China to justify their attack on the West. Let’s see if Pike’s supposed vision really exists or is valid.

First, even if Albert Pike really did have such a vision, you wouldn’t be able to trust it since Pike was an admitted Luciferian and believed he was serving in the grand cause to replace God with Satan’s rule through secret societies. The writers at http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/
 usually do a pretty good job at researching conspiracy claims and separating fact from fiction. They were able to sort this one out
 through some very good research. Those who promulgate this 3 World War scenario all refer by to a supposed letter that Pike wrote to Cardinal Mazzini in Italy, dated 1871:
Let’s begin with the modern populariser of the Pike/Mazzini, 1871 “letter.” In 2003, an Englishman by the name of Michael Haupt launched his website threeworldwars.com
 in response to Jihadist terrorism and the American invasion of Iraq. Backed by the knowledge gleaned from a conspiratorial view of history and an obvious impending cataclysm, the words of William Guy Carr,attributed to Albert Pike, seemed to precisely predict the dire circumstances unfolding in the Middle East.

One message that Albert Pike received from his "spirit guide," and which in reality we know to be a demonic vision, he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place. This is not because the devil has powers of prophecy [but he can give false prophecies mixed with a lot of truth], but because his agents have undertaken to manipulate political events to closely follow his designs. For a short time, this letter was [claimed to be] on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was [claimed to have been] copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy.

The following is a quote from - Michael Haupt, "Who was Albert Pike?" (Jun 07, 2003). The alleged Pike letter to Cardinal Mazzini is in bold.

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Haupt: Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events in the Middle East show a growing unrest and instability between Jews and Arabs. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off. [This conclusion fails to see that Russia and China have so far never been willing to go to war with the West over allies in the Middle East—not in Iraq, not in Syria, and not in Iran.]

Only a vision by Pike could seem to explain how he could predict the name and horrors of Nazism and Communism or Zionism illuminati 50 years before its existence if the letter was indeed written in 1871. But when Conspiracy Archive went to find the alleged Pike letter to Mazzini, text versions of which have been circulating the internet for years, they found it never really existed.

It was a story totally fabricated after the first two world wars by a guy name William Guy Carr based on writings of anti-Catholic writer Leo Taxil. It is Carr who makes the grand leap to “3 World Wars” and attributes it to Pike in a letter claimed to be in the archives of the British Museum (to give the air of authenticity). The letter, if it ever existed, was a modern fraud. The entire analysis, for those interested, is found in the following link:
 Conspiracy Archive’s analysis concludes with:

Exactly what William Guy Carr was trying to pull, I’ll never know. If you’ve bared it [the length of the above link] until the end, perhaps you’re disappointed to have found nothing about a prediction of three world wars, Communism, Nazism and Zionist Illuminati – or anything of the sort. A search through the entire book, utilizing relevant word combinations, turns up nothing either. Instead, what it truly represents is the scurrilous fantasies, and militant anti-Catholicism of its author: the impostor Leo Taxil aka Dr. Bataille, who profited handsomely while having a million laughs at the expense of both Christians and Masons; who confessed that his entire corpus of anti-Masonic works – spanning twelve years and representing thousands of pages (including the translated excerpt above) – were a complete and utter fraud; a colossal yet ridiculously farcical hoax.

That doesn’t mean that Masonic rituals are free from Satanic influence. Often conspirators will create a forged or fraudulent work condemning what they want to protect so that the discovery of the forger or fraud will cause people to disregard both the source and the now discredited content —which may be still true.

It is enough having shown that the so-called Pike/Mazzini letter came from the Taxil hoax [who] benefitted from the atmosphere in France at that time, which was indeed rife with anti-clericalism, occultism, and outright Satanism. The poets and authors of Romanticism had also looked upon Satan and Lucifer as a hero, and became more outspoken as anti-clericalism became the norm.

So, on a rare religious note, I offer a caution to readers not to get hooked on the hundreds of prophetic claims coming out of people’s dreams and visions. They all seem to be framed around future wars, destructions and tribulations which give them the ring of authenticity to people aware about the future, but the details are usually contradictory and tend to lead people astray. I’m not doubting that people are having dreams and visions, only that the sources isn’t necessarily from God.

While God can speak if he wants to, He prefers the subtleties of inspiration rather than open manifestations. I think it’s against His testing purposes to do so much of what people are claiming in the frequent and open manner of visionary experiences.

There are those who claim that it’s all in the scriptures and that they have figured out all of those obscure ancient prophecies, but I myself am not so confident. I think there is a higher purpose in God to not making scriptural prophecies clear, and keeping them general, in order to force men to discern current threats by the still small voice of His Spirit, rather than by open or direct revelation.

In contrast (and also part of God’s testing purposes) Satan has been given great power to deceive in the “last days” before the Second Coming. I firmly believe that much of what I have described about the grand conspiracy against liberty that continues generation after generation is guided and kept alive by dark spiritual forces from beyond the veil. If they can reveal and guide evil men in this grand conspiracy, they can also plant false dreams and visions on those too eager for revelation.

So my advice is to not be too eager to take the easy way out by relying on those too-good-to-be-true details in dreams and visions that are leading many astray. I prefer to watch what is really going on around us, hard as that is with media deception, rather than rely on unsure visionary sources that create unwise dependencies. And, they do. Once hooked on prophecies, it becomes like an obsession to many to find the “latest and greatest answer” to the future. Beware.

9 comments:

  1. So your proof that this is fake is that the book was written after WW2? Might be. But it is odd that the world seems to constantly be leading up to WW3 based around events in the middle east.

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    1. that was not proof of a hoax at all

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    2. I agree with you Pike predicted an all fight between Christians and Muslims and Jews the refugee crisis allows this event to show itself as planned by Pike you only have to open your eyes and see the events taking place it's real.

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    3. dennis the relavant issue here is only whether this prophecy in 1871 cud be substantiated...if there was a 1925 book w/it that wud be sufficient for me...

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  2. I don't know if my comment went through if it did please delete this response. It seems that there are forces attempting to create a 3rd world war and a civil war inside the western world. Obama continues to side with Palestine and Islam. CAIR was designated a terrorist organization by the UAE, and they are intending to "help" out in Ferguson Missouri.

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  3. What the 2% shows us on their tv and in the news is a FALSE reality.... The alternative media ( Alex Jones, Ben Fulford, Jim Willie, Lindsay Williams, David Icke, are just a few examples) are also owned and operated by the elite. ... As stated above the Pike letter is a hoax written after the two world wars. Question? Did any of you see the letter or were you there when it was written? Do you not believe in illusion? Grow up children. ...... We have exposed the modus operandi of the elite 2% and they are now bread for us. They have finally met their Waterloo and they will soon have to cut and run. PTL. And we have the proof..... Google this.... Wellaware1.

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  4. not sure if the letter is a hoax or not, but it is interesting how the middle east is boiling over into europe and europe is looking a lot like the letter is saying. Guess a very smart person could have extrapolated events due to social engineering in the last 30 years. maybe this guy that wrote the letter is the real deal figuring out how WW3 will be sparked. I can see this maybe hapening in europe and middle east in the next 30 years maybe?

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  5. The "hoax" is that it is a purported "vision." But Satan can, and does appear as an angel of light. Mr. Skousen is well aware that Pikes team are "the secret combinations." I hope he has not been bought.

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  6. thank U...so there wasa no 1925 book...which means...hoax...
    Listen to everything...accept nothing...

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