THIS BLOG ATTEMPTS TO SHOW HOW SCIENCE IS CATCHING UP WITH REVEALED RELIGION

THIS BLOG IS AN ATTEMPT TO PUT ALL THE COOL STUFF THAT I BUMP INTO ABOUT THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST AND EVENTS THAT LEAD UP TO IT INTO ONE LOCATION.
THE CONTENTS WILL BE FROM AN LDS PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING IN HERE, I DO NOT PARTICULARLY CARE TO ARGUE, UNLESS YOU CAN ADD TO THIS BODY OF WORK. I HAVE AN OPEN MIND, THAT IS WHY I READ STUFF FROM ALL DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND SEEK LEARNING FROM THE BEST BOOKS. I JUST AM NOT HERE TO ARGUE ABOUT IT - BUT TO PUT IT OUT THERE WHERE OTHERS CAN PERUSE/PURSUE IT. I TAKE PARTICULAR INTEREST IN HONEST SEEKERS OF TRUTH AND BELIEVE THAT SCIENCE IS REVEALED RELIGION'S BEST ALLY. YOU WILL SEE ALOT OF TOPICS IN THIS BLOG THAT SHOW SCIENCE BACKING - AND SLOWLY CATCHING UP WITH - REVEALED RELIGION.
ENJOY!!

Wednesday, May 29, 2019

WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD ON HILL CUMORAH

I would love to get a bunch of these intellectuals together and do a mass excommunication after reading them the statements from the PS&R's.  They are akin to JR - and have set themselves up as a light above the words of the Lord's anointed.

I live one Cardston block away from the guy who is pushing the Baja Mexico model....  An intellectual and former prof at the Univ of Calgary in History.....   Seriously - would love to give him the list below.

When will people start to get it??

Because they do not get it, one last civilization will end in that vicinity; OURS!

I have the quotes to back that.

What is left in America?  Just those in the NJ and a few other stragglers.  This land will be swept clean of all those who have gone after false gods.  All of them.

"Moroni's America" – The North American Setting for the Book of Mormon




Posted: 27 May 2019 08:00 AM PDT
The Hill Cumorah is the ultimate war memorial. It is the site of the final battles of the Jaredites and the Nephites.
As a military veteran myself, I pause to remember all those who have served in the military, both those alive today and those who have passed on.
As a blogger here, I pause to remember all those who have participated in the discussion about the Hill Cumorah, including those who have spoken, written or taught about the location of Cumorah, both those alive today and those who have passed on.
Below is a list of some of those involved, grouped by where they taught the real Cumorah of Mormon 6:6 is located. Their credentials are indicated. 
western New York
southern Mexico (M2C)
Joseph Smith (President of the Church)
H. A. Stebbins (RLDS scholar)
Oliver Cowdery (President of the Church)
L. E. Hills (RLDS scholar)
David Whitmer (3 Witnesses)
David A. Palmer (LDS author)
Brigham Young (President of the Church)
John Sorenson (BYU professor)
Heber C. Kimball (First Presidency)
John W. (Jack) Welch (BYU professor)
Wilford Woodruff (President of the Church)
Dan Peterson (BYU professor)
Parley P. Pratt (Quorum of the Twelve)
Kirk Magleby (LDS author)
Orson Pratt (Quorum of the Twelve)
Brant Gardner (LDS author)
Joseph F. Smith (President of the Church)
Noel Reynolds (BYU professor)
Joseph Fielding Smith (President of the Church)
Shirley Heater (CofC author)
Anthony W. Ivins (First Presidency)
Jerry Ainsworth (LDS author)
James E. Talmage (Quorum of the Twelve)
Joseph Allen (LDS author)
LeGrand Richards (Quorum of the Twelve)
Garth Norman (LDS author)
Marion G. Romney (First Presidency)
Louis C. Midgley (BYU professor)
Mark E. Petersen (Quorum of the Twelve)
John L. Lund (LDS author)
Ezra Taft Benson, Gordon B. Hinckley, Thomas S. Monson (Presidents of the Church)
Tyler Griffin (BYU professor), Matt Roper (LDS author) and others affiliated with Book of Mormon Central
Everyone on the list is an exemplary individual, faithful, devoted, educated, well-intentioned, etc. They have made their respective positions crystal clear for everyone to see, as plain as words can be in all cases.
And there is no overlap between these two groups. They are as distinct as it gets.
Every member of the Church is free to choose which group to believe and follow when making a decision about the location of the Hill Cumorah of Mormon 6:6.
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I think this table is completely fair and accurate, but I know there are some individuals in the Mexico column who object to this classification.
However, they know as well as everyone else that the teachings about Cumorah in each column of the table are specific and clear. These are facts easily found and verified.
The most common rationalization among those in the Mexico column is that the people in the New York column were merely stating their opinions as men.
Everyone is welcome to accept that interpretation.
Of course, that interpretation would apply to anything the prophets teach that one wants to reject.
Some of those in the Mexico column have persuaded themselves that the New York Cumorah is inconsistent with a Mesoamerican setting for most of the events in the Book of Mormon, which they take as a given.
But we all see the logical fallacy there.
The Mesoamerican setting is a mere assumption, based on a subjective interpretation of the text designed to fit the assumption. It’s pure circular reasoning.
And, everyone is welcome to accept logical fallacies, including circular reasoning.
But at the same time, everyone is welcome to accept the teachings of the prophets.
No one is bound by the teachings of the intellectuals, except those who don’t know what the prophets have taught.
Which students at CES and BYU never learn.
But they can learn it here:
Source: Book of Mormon Wars
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3 comments:

  1. Add Hugh Nibley to the left side...

    "The Book of Mormon is a history of a related primitive church, and one may well ask what kind of remains the Nephites would leave us from their more virtuous days. A closer approximation to the Book of Mormon picture of Nephite culture is seen in the earth and palisade structures of the Hopewell and Adena culture areas than in the later stately piles of stone in Mesoamerica."

    From: https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/09/ancient-temples-what-do-they-signify?lang=eng

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  2. I agree with Nibley that a moral society would not be burdening the people with building such massive structures in central America. It still does not mean that the BC period didn't occur in Central America with the AD in period in North America.

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    1. The land that Lehi describes in 2 Nephi 1 sounds a lot more like the US than South or Central America. That was 588-570 BC. As far as anyone's exaltation goes, it really doesn't matter, however I have received more light into my life through reading the Book of Mormon with this assumption than otherwise.

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