Pravda.Ru had an interview with first
deputy head of United Russia faction at the Russian Parliament, leader
of the Russian Union of Afghan Veterans, Franz Klintsevich. We spoke
about US plans in Ukraine, the situation in the Donbass, perspective of a
new coup in Ukraine and Pentagon's plans for a nuclear attack on
Russia.
"There is a theory saying that during the
Caribbean crisis,
there were two minutes left before a nuclear war. Now they say that the
doomsday clock was moved two minutes forward. A lot has been said
recently about the danger of a global nuclear war. How dangerous is the
current situation?"
"Two young bulls are resting under a
tree, chewing grass. One of them says: "Is it true that people feed us
for meat?" The other one, a lazy and fat one, replies: "Come on, enough
with your conspiracy theories!" In fact, the current state of affairs is
very complicated. Of course, our liberal part that loves the West
remains very skeptical about the danger. Yet, the West is serious and it
is not going to give up.
"Those people, who started the mess, can
only care less about Ukraine. After all, the anti-Russian hysteria did
not come out of nowhere. If it wasn't for the Crimea, they would have
found something else. All the recent events and destructive processes
are connected with Russia this way or another. Russia is related to
everything that is associated with the development of NATO.
"It was agreed that
NATO would not expand.
Now, they do not even consider it necessary to explain anything. The
USA is quietly doing its job, having clearly declared Russia the prime
enemy. Obama's recent speeches about national exceptionalism,
superiority, mission and might, in fact, became the declaration of new
neo-Nazism. It was a declaration of superiority of the nation and the
country over the rest of the world.
"There are a few countries left that can somehow demonstrate their independence. The Americans control the
Arab world
and Europe. When the Americans say something, they do it as well. The
USA is indeed a superpower, the dollar is indeed a world currency.
Naturally, the abilities of the American nation are enormous. Global
processes for them are like an open book.
"However, the Americans fatally
miscalculated, as far as Russia is concerned. I am talking about
Russia's economic potential, its resistance to crises, its moral and
psychological situation, the spirit of the people. This can be seen even
in Ukraine, because there are a lot of Russian people there in Ukraine.
For any European country, the situation that we can eyewitness in
Ukraine today would be worse than a nuclear attack. Yet, in the
southeast of Ukraine, people live and survive. The Ukrainians, in their
majority, dislike Russia, to put it mildly. Yet, the situation is
changing now. Of course, people are zombified there. Many of them
believe that there are Russian soldiers and tanks in the Donbass."
"Almost a year has passed. So much has
been said about the presence of Russian troops in the southeast of
Ukraine. Yet, there is not even one photograph of one single tank. Do
people really believe that there are Russian troops in Ukraine?"
"Yes, they do, unfortunately, although
they do not even realize what our modern tanks are like. One does not
have to say much about the morale of the Ukrainian army. For the
Russian army
today, Ukraine and the Ukrainian army is not a serious enemy. Thank
God, we have people here, who understand that a military conflict is
inadmissible. Yet, more than 6,000 people have been killed in the
country in the military conflict in Ukraine, according to official
statistics from Kiev."
"We know that this figure is a lot larger."
"It is, but this is not the point, as
6,000 deaths is already a terrible number. This situation is not
incidental - everything had been planned. As they say, if you want to
defeat Russia, cut Ukraine from it first. They cut Ukraine away and now
they are working against Russia. However, Russia has not swallowed the
bait. The goal of Russia's opponents was to get Russia involved in a
war. Russia does not walk that path, so they now want to make Russia
stop helping people. This would cause another very big and serious
problem connected with the people, who live in Russia. They do not
accept it that Russia can dump its people, who are fighting against
fascism.
They failed to drag Russia into the war.
Russia has not dumped the people of Novorossiya either. There is no
regular Russian army there, but there are volunteers. Russia provides
humanitarian and financial assistance. Russia accommodates refugees from
Ukraine and so on. I predict mass exodus of the population of Ukraine
to the Russian Federation - about 7 million people will move to Russia
in the near future. The process has already begun. People were forced to
leave their homeland, their homes and go to Russia to save their lives
from all that horror.
"It is not only Russia that they try to escape to, although they are not welcome in other countries either."
"Of course, but Russia is their main
destination. Poland has not given one single permission, not even to one
refugee. In Russia, the number of refugees from Ukraine is already
about one million. About 300,000 of them have officially received
refugees status. There are as many as 3 million Ukrainians living in
Russia. Seven more million may come. Some of them will ask for the
refugee status, others will try to stay with their relatives to stay
afloat at least somehow.
"Such a large number of
refugees
is a very large burden for the country. They are all Russian people,
who need help in their time of need. In Ukraine, though, people already
express their dissatisfaction with the sitting government. Soldiers of
Aidar battalion have already tried to storm the building of the Defense
Ministry of Ukraine, and the latter met their requirements. However,
sooner or later, people will no longer be able to deal with all these
problems. Today's leaders of Ukraine do not talk to people - they listen
to commands from the USA instead.
"Time will come when American masters no
longer need them. The West will soon tell us - this is your brotherly
nation, so deal with it, help them all.
"Europe has so many problems with the
11-million-strong Greece, so no one can feed 43 million Ukrainians
today. It will be up to Russia to deal with this problem. The plan is to
destabilize and weaken Russia. I am against just giving. One should try
to find constructive solutions. Russia will have to face a plethora of
new problems soon. This is a part of a sophisticated concept.
"The Americans have the so-called
Prompt Global Strike
and rapid deployment forces. Today, all these forces have taken effect.
They started forming plans and moving forces. We obtain this
information from special services. As part of the global strike concept
of the Pentagon, the Americans plan to strike up to 4,000 missile blows
on Russia within one hour. The missiles will strike various objects -
military, civilian, management, communication - to disable control
centers and prevent a retaliatory nuclear strike.
"However, Russia is strong enough.
Russia is capable enough not to give the USA an opportunity to destroy
our country. This is ridiculous, when someone says that the balance of
forces has changed, that the United States of America can destroy Russia
36 times, and Russia can destroy the USA 18 times. Striking the
territory of the United States of America with six modern nuclear
warheads will demoralize the Americans immediately. If a problem like
this occurs, there will be not six, but six hundred missiles falling on
America, even if they intercept some of them.
The Americans are forced to play the game of
saber-rattling,
and they are doing it seriously. At the same time, they conduct
undercover activities. For example, more than a thousand professionals
of private companies, affiliated by intelligence services of the United
States, now work on the territory of Ukraine.
Americans work at the Ministry of
Defense and the Security Service of Ukraine, at the Ministry of Internal
Affairs too. Those specialists have prepared subversive groups,
reconnaissance and special forces.
I am convinced that Russia needs this
cold shower. This will make us take a sober look at the situation. We do
not want war with anyone, we are not going to attack anyone, we do not
need anyone else's territories. It had not occurred to anyone to take
the Crimea. The Russians living in the Crimea had foreseen the events
and voted at the referendum. Those people have never been Ukrainians. As
soon as they got such an opportunity, they voted to return home to
Russia. Otherwise, the Crimea would have been a lot worse than the
Donbass is today."
Interviewed by Inna Novikova
Pravda.Ru
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