SPENCER'S DRAPER HOLE

I have gotten some questions in the comments about previous posts.  One of them was written before Visions of Glory was published and before I had ever heard of a guy named Spencer.  This was written simply from my observations and from whisperings of the Holy Ghost to my mind as I pondered on the words of Sarah  Menet and Iohanni Wofgramm.  To my troll (Russ), this is why I like to support what Spencer spoke of.  I know the character of these two people (one of them raised no less than two people from the dead) and was recommended in an Ensign article written by one of our twelve apostles about faith and healing.  And, to top it off, this article author, Dallin H. Oakes is one of my favorites who approaches things mechanically and logically - like I do.  When he wrote of Iohanni's faith and miracles, I am not sure if he knew the "rest of the story" about Iohanni, using prophetic gifts, called the beginning of the economic collapse in 2007 and many other amazing and hard to believe future events like a massive quake in Utah and nuke in Ogden at the base.

So, this WILL happen - by the mouth of two or three witnesses AND according to what I had for myself when I wrote this:

Sunday, June 10, 2012

ENTIRE CITIES SWALLOWED IN THE EARTH - REVISITED

This blog is a hobby - and I do not have a lot of time to throw at it, but many of these posts are just scratching the surface of information I have gained or gleaned on some particular topic.  Many times, I have a spare 5 mins to spend on it, or I have read an article as I am falling asleep (thus the shoddy nature of the writing), and I just tap out something simple.  So, if readers click on the "Post More Info" button on the bottom of the article, I am happy to revisit something.  I posted the soils data for northern Utah that shows where liquefaction is most likely to occur in the Salt Lake Valley.  CLICK LINK

Why do I car about this stuff?  Because my wife and I bought our first home in the valley - a fixer-upper that was built mostly from unreinforced structural brick - which kept me up alot thinking about how it would ride a shaker out.  Also, I care because, since I have moved from the valley, I have read enough stuff to know that there will be a massive (read M8.5-10.0+) earthquake in that valley within the next 0-20 years which will cause massive bad results.  Of course, my concern is "What will become of the Temple, Church HQ, etc?" in the event of such a massive shaker.  The SL temple is not re-inforced in any way and I believe its strictly a mass building - one that relies on sheer mass and gravity to ride out the massive stresses and g-forces that are experienced in a M7+ event.  I have been studying up on how the Greeks and others used mortise and tenon joints (with the locking feature being a cast-in-place metal plug) on their stone buildings which helped them ride the tremors out.  The Incans used similar technology plus interlocking stones - veritable 3D puzzles - to keep things together in their seismically active areas.  I do not believe that the SL temple has that luxury in its construction.  But it is in a similarly active seismic Zone 5 - so how will it survive what surely must be coming?

I am fairly confident that Brigham Young nailed things on two levels when he uttered prophetically as he struck his cane into the ground and designated the spot the temple is built on as the place where, 40 years later, a temple would stand erected - and, at a later time, that that temple would see its way into the Millennium - past all the prophesied destruction.

Years ago, I read a report that indicated that when American Stores (I think they are now defunct) went to build their store in the downtown core (just south of temple square), they did the geological survey of what is below them so they could gauge how deep to go with their pilings in order to support their building's mass on what is typically known to be alluvial material (small to larger gravel washed out of the mountains - stuff you would find on the bed of a former lake...).  I would love to get my hands on that report, BTW - if anyone knows where the link is.  I have scoured the internet for hours trying to locate it again so I could do a decent piece on the topic and cannot find it....  Anyway, the results were stunning.  The entire area directly under them and north to the capitol building sits directly on top of a granite plug that rises up from hundreds to thousands of feet out of the alluvial soil and provides a base on which to build a large temple.  In a massive shaker, a building that relies solely on mass as its seismic counter-measure will probably survive if the forces are normal to the foundation (up and down) and not too heavily in shear (side to side).  Any similar building of that mass on alluvial soil would simply disappear up to its spire or worse, as alluvial soil acts like a bunch of ball bearings.  Try it - get a bunch of BBs, put them in a deep tray and get blocks of similar dimensions but varying densities (increased mass per unit volume).  Put them on a shaker table (local h-ware store if you don't have one sitting around in the basement) - and see how the heavier the mass, the deeper it sinks.  The foam block will pretty much just float on top of the ball bearings while the lead block will disappear as the BBs are displaced around it.  I am confident that the areas directly around Temple Square and very "gay" alphabet streets and UofU area will take a massive hit as the energy manifested in an earthquake is directly proportional to the distance from the fault (right on top of it) and the depth of portion of the fault that erupts (this one will probably erupt at the surface of the earth, judging by the escarpments we see a little further south in the Cottonwood Canyon areas. Also, the benches are just big gravel beds where the faster moving water from the canyon creeks hit the placid lake waters of the Lake Bonneville shoreline - and dropped the sediments, etc.

While working with the Youth in one of the wards in the valley, we did a service project to clean up the City Creek Park just above (north) and east of Temple Square.  At the time we were baffled at the bags full of discarded clothing that we collected from the bushes.  Mostly shorts, underwear and the occasional t-shirt...  There was a lot more clothing than actual conventional trash.  I had never heard of gay cruising (at that point) until I read about the old I-15 rest stop between Lehi and Provo that was shut down for such activity - people acting like wild dogs, roaming around looking for a "casual encounter" much like the infamous senator from Idaho that was busted in an undercover sting in a mid-west airport.  Yup - there are tons of gays in the valley - and they are acting no better than the wild animals - except the wild animals at least mostly have enough sense/instinct to do the mating rituals with the opposite gender....  And thus, the statement that SLC would become one of the most wicked cities on the face of the earth is pretty much coming to fruition....and wicked cities tend to get wiped out - as the Sodomites found out.....

So, that report along with a confident prophetic statement or two from Brigham Young put my worries to bed.  The geological data shown in the link above confirms it - you can see that the liquefaction data in the Temple Square area matches the data in the canyon areas where the granite for the SL Temple was taken from.  Rock solid - while the surrounding area is pretty much ball bearing city.

On a side note - the liquefaction data also bears out what we know from other prophetic statements that there will be large tent cities on the foothills of the Oquirrhs (west side of the valley) when the destruction in the valley occurs.  There may be liquefaction in the west side - but nothing like the middle of the valley and the east benches.  While many in those tent cities will be refugees from the massive devastation that occurs on the West Coast (where I am now writing this at....),  who will flee from really bad, to "not as bad", (its all relative, isn't it?), many of the refugees will be displaced from the destroyed east side (where the main Wasatch Fault is) and down south from the Lehi and Point of the Mountain areas where the east/west fault lines intersect the north/south fault lines in the valley.  This is pure guesswork on my part - but, I believe, without divine intervention to intercede, I do not believe the new temple down in Draper will make it due to its extremely bad location.

When it was being built, I marvelled at how close the Oquirrh Mtn temple is to the older Jordan River temple - there is alot of new development out in that area - but really; enough to support a whole new temple when the WJ temple was largely under-utilized when I was there 15 years ago?  My personal feeling is it has been built (and heckastout, at that, just like the new Nauvoo Temple) to withstand the fury of what is coming, and so that the people that come to the refugee camps of the Oquirrh foothills can be converted and receive their endowments in their hour of need as they are humbled and become acquainted with their Maker in their extremity.  There will be a massive influx into the Church at that time - and at points afterward.  It will be amazing - the last gathering before the burning.

So, I guess the message of this post is, there is alot of destruction coming to those areas and that if you have questions or would like more info - please check the button at the bottom of the post and I will pass on more info as I have time.  Also, as we approach the next couple of years, please pray for me - that I will know when the right time to "pre-evacuate" is.  Being on the coast, and watching all of the prophesied wickedness come about, I know we are setting ourselves up for deserved destruction, but I am still here earning a living so I can afford to be prepared to ride this thing out.  The key (as Noah, Lehi and many others found out) is knowing when enough is enough..... and when its time to pull the handle between the knees and punch out and save yourself....

Monday, December 3, 2012

HUMAN NATURE AND THE MAKING OF DRAPER LAKE - PART II

When I worked in Utah up in the UofU Research Park, one of my colleagues was a Delta pilot who was on furlough.  He was LDS - but, I have to say, a pretty luke-warm one.  Wonderfully nice guy - a guy from Sandy, UT.  He opened up about his wife and their boredom in the bedroom.  He was worried about losing her based on what he was telling me.   They had two kids and the perfect home in the perfect neighborhood.  All was well from the outside.

Some couples cannot handle the day to day grind of life and feel the need to inject excitement into their routine.  During the catch portion of the relationship, there was alot of excitement as the game of cat and mouse was played.  But just as with the playful cat, what do you do with the mouse once you have finally caught it?  I have seen ours release the somewhat injured mouse and try to get it to run away so that there would be that thrill of having to catch it again.

Apparently, we humans (natural man) are not a whole lot different in our desire to keep it fresh and exciting.  In our world where everything has to be bigger and better and more tantalizing and over the top than the last thing, we are approaching a point of no return and it is part of what causes man to move forward in debauchery until they are past feeling and have committed the unpardonable sin that Cain and others arrived at in their lives.  This tendency is hard-wired into the males, most of all.  I often tell my wife when I am displaying aspects of my maleness in the "wanderlust" as I call it (I am talking about stuff like getting a new car or making my family situation better - not other stuff), that if it were not for that trait in males, she would still be sitting in a way over-populated England staring off into the Atlantic and wondering if there might be something out there for her impoverished and over-crowded kids to have.  Guys are always pushing for the final frontier - its part of the testosterone thing which I call the "stupid drug" - and the reason you ladies were so impressed with our bravado.  Yep, its the reason we do what we do - and you are hard-wired to fall for it.  The stupider and more brazen we are in our bravado, the more you love us.  Some are drawn to it like moths to flames and it leaves the better of us males wondering why the "goody two-shoes" female of our affection blindly walked past us to go hang out with the "James Dean" bad-boy behind curtain number two.  Before I get some angry comments at the end of the article, I have to caveat here that it was Eve who initially pushed the envelope in the Garden, and it was my wife who pushed the button on the decision to move to Montana and boldly go where no family had gone before, whilst I was madly protesting the insanity of it......  I have since come around......

I dare say - part of putting off the natural man is finding joy in the simple things found in the day-to-day routine and being content with our lot in life - while still striving according to the promptings of the Spirit so that we can progress back into Christ's presence.  Part of the reason I DO NOT like video games, extreme shows like Survivor, television, pornography, cell phones, drugs and alot of other addicting stuff is that it drives the human trait to up the ante on everything until it leaves you exhausted and unfulfilled because you simply cannot take it to the next level.  The old Eagles song, "Life in the Fast Lane" kind of sums that lifestyle up in a nut shell; it will surely "make you lose your mind"....  Our kids are suffering terribly because they feel the intense pressure to be like everyone else around them stuck on this treadmill - but knowing they are the backward ones who do not have TV, the latest smart phone, the latest clothes, the newest car, doing all the coolest things.  The anti-dote for that is the coming destruction - and I cannot wait.  It will fix every complaint I still have after doing everything I have striven to do to position my family with the "bow into the wave".....  I know it will eventually fix all of society's ills - and knowing the medicine is much better than the illness, I just wait and attempt to be as much of a force for good as I can while I wait, wait, wait.....

So, after all this back-ground, I was shocked to find out that there may be a reason behind the coming Draper Lake.  Man, if this stuff is going on around you, all I can say is get out now or make sure your house is to seismic code or you have your food storage in a large boat that will be able to withstand what is coming....  If you are into this debased stuff (anyone who is on this site, unless by chance, surely is not unless it is to mock....), you need to repent immediately!

Here is the article and e-mail from a friend that got me spun up.  I was kind of blind-sided after reading this.

WOW!!!!  I had no idea!

Well, that kind of stuff is definitely "lake-worthy" kind of stuff!  I have to say, if that IS going on in a ward, it would definitely be AWKWARD on a Sunday morning with the Sacrament tray rolling around......

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:39 AM

Your post on the coming Draper lake and why it should happen there reminded me of an article I read a few years ago in the Deseret News about Draper and the south valley being the center of swinger groups.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=254254

There is even a hookup site that lists the couples in Draper (and other places) that want to "get together" to break their vows of chastity.

 

I used to live in Riverton across I-15 from Draper/Sandy and I have to say that it's not hard to feel the wickedness and worldliness of that area.  Even most members of the Church there seem to be spiritually dead.  We struggled mightily for 2 1/2 years there because our ward was so plagued by apathy and lack of commitment.  Just before we arrived, there had been a couple of scandalous divorces due to infidelity and it had had a real impact on the ward.  My buddy who lives in Sandy reports that his ward is much the same, spiritually dead, people just going through the motions.

I do not put this out there to be salacious or open people up to temptation - but we do need to be aware that it is going on and then to run the other direction.  My sister said they have friends who are into this and that they had been invited.  She and her husband actually were kind of asking me if I thought this was okay or where on the spectrum they thought it fell.....  They got an ear-full, of course.  They probably had not read my post on human BBQ to get a feel for what comes next...... Yup, we are livin in the last days.....

 

Saturday, October 5, 2013

COMING EQ AND VOLCANIC ERUPTION ANALYSIS - DRAPER IS TOAST

I am not a geologist.  I am a thinker.  My mind never really quits running until I go to sleep at night.  As I have driven around Utah and the Pacific Northwest, where I have spent most of my life I noticed several things about my surroundings.

One of them was that all of the major naturally occurring cracks in the earth either produced volcanoes or major mining districts in each of those two areas.  I first came to this conclusion as I came down a canyon off Mt. Nebo in Utah one day and looked directly west and noticed that there was kind of an escarpment and then the famous Tintic mining district off in the distance.  It was that same trip that I noticed the famed Dream Mine of John Koyle just outside of Salem, UT.  I still remember rubber necking it and asking my wife what that shiny white building was over on the hill as we drove by.

After graduating from BYU, I was in Flight Test Engineering and would often get to ride on headset in the flight deck jumpseat running a flight test - which usually could just be boiled down to a really expensive joy ride.  On a blue-sky day, the pilots would file a flight plan and we would go on a "volcano run" as I called them.  We would run north up the Strait of Juan de Fuca and turn south down the coast until we got to San Fransisco, then head inland several hundred miles and then tick the volcanoes off the list as we headed due north at 40,000 feet.  Being in flight test, a deviation to the original flight plan could be radioed in and we could drop down and buzz the volcanoes at peak level.  I still consider that one of the greatest things I have ever had the privilege of doing, that job.  Anyway, at that level, you get a birds-eye view of the lay of the land.  As time went on I began to see that the volcanoes always lined up with each other and that they lined up with the natural east-west cracks coming off the Pacific.

Here is a graphic of it:

All of the major EQs in the PNW in the last 70 years have occurred where these lines exist.  The volcanoes exist where those lines cross.  They will all begin to light off when the Matthew 24/Spencer quake lets loose.  You should have masks to filter that ash and gas emissions as well as the nuclear fallout that will roughly come parallel with it.

In Utah, the same thing occurs.  Only there is a line that comes off the middle of the Pacific and goes all the way to the east side of the Uintah Mountains.   Here it is:

The Uintahs are the only east-west major mountain range in the Continental U.S.  As you run that line into the Wasatch Front, you run into Draper/Point of the Mountain - where the "Draper Lake" Spencer speaks of will occur.  Every one of those intersecting lines is a major mining center, including the Lost Rhodes Mine that financed the SL Temple.  The Dream Mine will yet finance the temple complex at the NJ.  It will be the greatest treasure extracted from the earth.  The Incas will bring theirs and the Mayas will bring theirs.  They hid it up when they realized the intentions of the Spanish - and it will come forward when they see this temple announcement.  This is the great rising up of the natives that I spoke of in yesterday's post.  As Ephraim (the Gentiles) lose their chance, Manasseh will rise up and take a leading role.  Joseph truly will lead in these last days as God's government takes precedent and wins in the end.

Here is the detailed Utah map with the double lines being the biggest potential.  You have the cross at Draper:

 Here is wisdom for those who are concerned about preparing for what is coming.

Sunday, December 2, 2012

HYDROLOGIC DATA FOR DRAPER - THE REASON FOR THE COMING DRAPER LAKE

Well, just looking at the facts and data here folks and applying it to what Spencer and Gayle Smith had to say about the massive surface failure in the Draper area in the coming EQ.

We have been pulling insane amounts of stuff out of the ground including oil, gas, salt, coal and water just to name a few.  The greatest removal, by far, has been the depletion of our aquifers throughout the mid and western US.  In Texas, there have been massive removals and the pumping of the ancient aquifer which extends from Kansas all the way down to Mexico.  The result is increased pumping costs and sometimes, massive cracks and sink holes in the ground.  In the "great EQ" of Matthew 24 that rocks the whole world, there will be massive failure of the land's surface in those depletion zones.

What this has done is caused us to be set up for some massive surface collapses like the ones which Spencer has foreseen.  Entire cities being swallowed as caverns of the deep can no longer support the forces exerted on them in their hollowed out and depleted state.  I do not know why the area at the Point of the Mountain has to suffer so, but I can say that it will.  I wonder if the prison there will go down, as well.  I hope the NSA facility that was just built there is completely destroyed.  I do not understand the rest of the reasoning for the coming destruction there.  I understand the U-district and the alphabet streets further north in the Valley.  They are no different than the Capitol Hill district of Seattle and portions of Portland where a large percentage of folks live who still suffer under the delusion that homosexuality is the "higher way".... and that Christians are to be hated and despised for not budging in their stance against it.  Where is the tolerance there??
Its largely a one-way street on those types of arguments.  When the Mormon, Bro. Young was instated as the UW President a year or so ago, the vitreol and hatred that was spewed out against him was heart-breaking and appalling.  I knew the people here had just crossed a line - one I had found drawn in the scriptural sand as I studied many years ago as an unbiased youth (before I became acquainted with the ways of man and things).  For having crossed that line, there is nothing for the people of Western Washington to do but wait - and expect results for their collective actions.  For most who come thru it intact, I expect there to be no post-911 style change of heart.  Just bitter rebellion and the shaking of the fist at heaven for having received a divine chastisement.

I know that most of what Spencer wrote in that book was a soft sell of what really is coming.  The body blow we will receive generally as LDS will be harsh.  It has been over 150 years in coming as we have progressively rejected God's higher laws.  If we truly were a consecrated people and our hearts were not set so much on the finer things of the world, the transition into the Millennial model would be a smooth one indeed.  But, chiasmatically, we are not ready for the Millennial model because we have not striven as a people, nor have we sought to collectively bring Zion about on our own, so it must needs be done by the things which we will indeed suffer; through our trials and our tribulations.  Instead of the school of sweet learning and finer perceptions, it will be accomplished through the school of hard knocks and bitter lessons.  After we have buried many of our closest loved ones in cold, dark graves the remainder will have the gutsy task of moving forward to quite a glorious future.  As Brigham Young once put it near the end of his life while speaking at a funeral, he quite envied the one they had just laid down, releasing them from all the mortal cares.  So it will be for many who survive.  I thought it interesting that Spencer noted that when the plagues are sweeping the land, many, not being able to take it, will allow themselves to be infected and taken within 12-18 hours.  I suppose if not prepared, and things are at their bleakest, that might be a real impulse.  I know after my Dallin died over 10 years ago, I was driving home in a pounding rain on I-5 one day after work.  I could hardly see the road from the driving rain and the tears in my eyes.  As I merged into an exit lane, the back of my car started to fishtail mildly.  Instead of feathering the throttle (front wheel drive) and massaging the wheel to compensate for it, I was in a dreamy state and I did not have the normal drive and will to do it.  I just let it take its course - and it naturally dampened out and I continued on my way.  No adrenaline rush - no indomitable will to try and alter the flow of my timeline.  Just complacency and self-pity at that juncture.

It also may be as described in order to keep troops out of Utah County and solidly focused on SLC where the power structure for the state is.  According to Sols Cuardisto, they have their eye on the Church and its potential for organization and dominance and the threat to their future power-hungry plans - to which I say they must all perish; every whit (left hand sweeping to the left).  It may be that they generally leave the area to the south alone having seen aerial surveys of the damage that will occur there.  The desolation from the scourge alone will leave towns such as Pleasant Grove completely deserted.  I have a close friend and former college roommate who lives in Alpine, UT who I pray for.  I drove to his place a few years ago and the land surface is completely jumbled (lots of hillocks) and the streets bear the cracking/buckling of sliding in a time when there is no seismic activity.  The Stake President has had the entire Stake going thru drills of turning off the power for three days, or living only off of food storage for a week in order to prepare the people.  It takes an extremely cohesive and humble people in order to be afforded a divine intervention over a large area.  In the old days, the Lord was stupendously generous when negotiating with Abraham over the cities of the plains of Mamre.  I think it was only so because they had not had the fullness for so many generations.  We have a Prophet in our midst and divine counsel every six months and all of the information of the ages at fingertips in glowing portals of knowledge; and we do not heed it as a people.  What are our excuses?  None.

So here is the data on that depleting aquifer in the Draper area (the graph at the bottom of the page):

http://groundwaterwatch.usgs.gov/AWLSites.asp?S=403020111561901

Me, personally? I would be high-tailing it for the west side of the valley or at least shutting off the tv and fasting and praying to know what is the Lord's will for me and the family.  If you do this, it will be your burden to live with/act upon the Lord's answer now - no matter how inconvenient; or the regret later for not having heeded that impulse when it was given, for the time is getting very short.