CLASSED AMONG THE WICKED CITIES OF THE WORLD

Well, two Christmases ago, I was contacted through facebook about the first family that I had the privilege of teaching and baptizing in Brazil.  The oldest girl, who at the time of the parents' baptism, was just three years old and who used to climb on me like a jungle jim, was now a beautiful young woman and a recent new mother who had married a BYU law student, finishing up their last few years at school.  The mother, whom I had baptized years ago was in town to visit her new grand child.  So - not wanting to miss this opportunity for the world - I asked my kids who was up for a winter Christmas break adventure and we started off into some very bad weather the day after Christmas.  We eventually made it to Provo, UT after some harrowing driving and had a wonderful reunion - although I have to admit, my Portuguese was definitely in need of some shoring up.....

While driving from Ogden to SLC and further down into Provo, my 15 year old daughter could not help but notice the number of billboards involving plastic surgery and "body alterations".  I had to say she was onto something - and I could not dismiss it as a bunch of plastic surgeons who were really hurting at the time (we were in a recession - and that kind of thing is typically funded by discretionary income....).  It really left an impression on me - I am married to a gal who has tons of natural beauty and that may put makeup on just a couple of times a week on average - and not much at that.  So this phenomenon left an impression on me and reminded me of the prophecy of how SLC would be classed among the wicked (vain/homosexual) cities of the world.  According to Wikipedia, this is actually the case:

Less than 50% of Salt Lake City's residents are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This is a much lower proportion than in Utah's more rural municipalities; altogether, LDS members make up about 62% of Utah's population.^[59]

Salt Lake City has been considered one of the top 51 "gay-friendly places to live" in the U.S.^[64] The city is home to a large, business savvy, organized, and politically supported homosexual community. Leaders of the Episcopal Church's Diocese of Utah,^[65][66] as well as leaders of Utah's largest Jewish congregation, the Salt Lake Kol Ami,^[67] along with three elected representatives of the city identify themselves as gay. These developments have attracted controversy from socially conservative officials representing other regions of the state. A 2006 study by UCLA estimates that approximately 7.6% of the city's population, or almost 14,000 people, are openly homosexual or bisexual, compared to just 3.7%, or just over 60,000 people, for the metropolitan area as a whole.^[68]
In 2007 Salt Lake City was ranked by Forbes Magazine as the most vain city in America based on the number of plastic surgeons per 100,000 and their spending habits on cosmetics, which exceed that of cities of similar size.^[69] However, this likely reflects a concentration of plastic surgeons within the city limits but whose client base includes the entire metropolitan area. Forbes Magazine also found the city to be the 8th most stressful. In contrast to the 2007 ranking by Forbes, a 2010 study conducted by Portfolio.com and bizjournals concluded Salt Lake City was the least stressful city in the United States.^[70]

Now, I have nothing against anyone who is homosexual - they should be loved with an extra measure in order to ensure that they know where they can find a haven when they are ready to repent - but the practice and creeping/slide of morality should not be tolerated in the least.  I just saw a  great (wholesome) movie called Shunned and it illustrated the example of how a lack of love can lead to unwanted consequences in someone who has gone astray.

GAIL'S STORY - PRELUDE TO DESTRUCTION

FOLKS, PUT ON THE FILTER HERE, BUT THERE IS SOME STUFF HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. THE ONE ABOUT MARTIAL LAW BEING IMPLEMENTED AND THE GOVERNMENT BEING ABLE TO REMOVE ALL OF OUR FOOD AND PERSONAL RESOURCES REALLY HAS ME CONCERNED SINCE THE RECENT SIGNING OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SEIZE WHATEVER THE GUBBIMINT DEEMS NECESSARY:

Gail's Story
(Originally prepared 21 Aug. 1996; revised Sept. 23, 1996, updated July 29, 1997)

UPDATE : March 3, 1999 - Gayle's Personal Story in Her Own Words
UPDATE : October 27, 1999 - Update from Gayle - Courtesy www.GreaterThings.com

For Those of you who know Gail, or know of her, she has a very interesting story to tell.

This story should concern every living being on earth, and cause you to truly "Come unto Christ". She has seen many earthquakes, floods, and other destructions which will come upon the earth. I have permission from Gail to place her story here for anyone who is interested in reading it, so here it is:

I would like to go on record as one who knows Gail, and has spoken with her at length. Gail claims NO authority, keys, prophetic gifts, or anything else. She is just someone who is telling her story as she has been commanded to do. If you will research these things yourself, you will find that they coincide with the scriptures on every point, but that they have been put on a local level. Read them yourself, and ask the Lord if they are true, as this is the ONLY way to know!
This is a summary of the dreams, visions, etc. received by Gail over the last several years concerning some of the things that will occur in these latter days. Gail has reviewed and corrected this.

I suppose virtually all people familiar with the Bible are aware of the prophecy in Acts 2:17-18 that-

“In the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy;...”

About nine or ten years ago I began to meet people who had experienced various apocalyptic visions and dreams of some of the same things that Gail has seen. I began to make all sorts of physical preparations, such as food storage, etc, but soon realized that by far the most important preparation is spiritual, that is, to draw as close as possible to the Lord. Since that time it has seemed that about every year I have heard new stories of the earthquakes, etc. along with express or implicit indications that that year would be the year the events would begin. Frankly, I’m more than a little tired of all of this, in part, because it really messes with my ability to keep my nose to the grindstone so that the bills get paid, etc.

Several things make Gail’s story different. First, she has had thirty years experience in receiving these dreams and visions and in detecting the deceptions of the Adversary. Second, she is the only one I’ve known that the Lord has clearly told to go on the radio about these things. Third, she has received hundreds of calls, visits, etc. from others who have seen various parts of what she has seen. Fourth, while she still has not received any personal revelations on the dates when these things are to begin, many others have. Finally, I know that she is being absolutely truthful about her experiences.

Around May-June 1996 Gail was invited to tell her story on a radio talk show in Salt Lake City, hosted by Dr. Jack Stockwell, D.C., weekdays from 7 AM to 9 or 10 AM on KTKK (630 AM) . She has been on this show about six or seven times. She has been astounded that literally hundreds of people have contacted her to tell her that they too had seen some or many of the things she had talked about and until they had heard her speak they each thought they were the only one to be shown these things. What this means is that while the events discussed here are in Gail’s words, more importantly EVERY ONE of the forthcoming events mentioned here is the collective experience of hundreds of other people as well.

Gail has received no money for appearing on this show and was unwilling to even do it until the Lord made it unmistakably clear to her that she must do this. Gail has been told that ”If the Brethren attacked her at the October 1996 General Conference and tell the people not to believe her then the sequence of events would begin in 1996.” This did not happen. Gail’s sister was killed in 1969. Shortly after that her sister began coming to her. Gail’s mother passed away in 1982. Since her mother’s “graduation” basically only her mother has come to her. The principal purpose of the visits from beyond the veil was to show her events that were shortly to occur. She was also taken over into the Spirit world and shown around, although her memories of many of the details of those visits have been taken from her. Until just two or three years ago most of what Gail was shown concerned harmful or even deadly situations, accidents, etc. that would occur to family members. Gail’s task was to warn these family members and prevent their injury which she did. During these years her family learned to always heed such warnings for they had saved them from serious injury or death time and time again.

Beginning in 1993 her mother began to show Gail a number of the cleansing type future events that could or would occur. She has been told on more than one occasion that the timing and even the occurrence of these events is conditional, subject to the behavior of those on earth.

Before getting into all the heavy stuff she has seen I think it might be best to start with the good news first.

THE GOOD NEWS: The purpose of this cleansing prior to the Lord’s return is to separate the wheat from the tares, namely those who believe in and follow Christ from those who won’t. Gail has seen that it does not matter whether one belongs to a church or not or even what church one joins. The only thing that matters is whether you will turn to Christ! Gail has been shown that during the period from the financial collapse to the third quake the righteous who are not appointed to die will be led or taken to “cities of refuge or cities of light”. Gail has seen visions of some righteous people being led out by beings of light when it is so cold that the little children are crying and the people just have the clothes on their backs.

She has shared with me several scenarios shown her that illustrate ways in which the Lord will save those who turn to Him. She was in her home and saw about 6 armed troops enter her home searching for food, weapons, ammo, etc. She also knew they had orders to arrest her and that if she were taken she would be killed. She prayed in her mind, “Lord, if it be thy will that I am not to die at this time, please save me and tell me what to do.” The spirit told her to tell the men not to touch her or they would die. The laughed and one man grabbed her. Immediately he fell dead at her feet. Within a few minutes the others had convinced themselves that the first man’s death was just a coincidence, that he had a bad heart or something. A second man started to go for her at which time she said “Please don’t touch me or you’ll die.” He ignored the warning, grabbed her and immediately fell dead at her feet. The remaining men left as fast as they could. In another scenario she saw the wild animals coming down out of the mountains, killing and eating people. Among these animals she saw groups of mountain lions, four to six to a group. (Traveling in groups is not normal behavior for these solitary and timid cats.) One of these groups of cougars approached her. Not knowing what to do, she thought, “Well praying worked before”, so once again she prayed, “Lord, if it be thy will that I’m not to die at this time please save me and tell me what to do.” The spirit said, “Reach out your hand and pet the front mountain lion on the head.” She thought to herself, “Sure I will!”, but she did it anyway. The animal immediately began rubbing against her like a house cat, rolling over, etc. and the other animals did the same. The people in the area who saw this became terrified of Gail and fled. Gail says that this is why the scriptures say that people are afraid to go up against Zion for God is with them. Then the Spirit said, “I have showed you the great power that I am willing to exercise on behalf of one person, Think what I will do f>
Transfer interrupted!
The Lord also told her on another occasion that. “I will feed you, I will clothe you, I will put a roof over your head. I will protect you. All that I require is that you believe I will do it.”

THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS WHICH GAIL HAS SEEN MOTHER-IN-LAW PASSES AWAY: The first event is the death of her mother-in-law, who was about 90 when this was first written and not in the best of health. In other words, she could die any time and is, in fact, eager to do so.

ECONOMIC COLLAPSE: Shortly after her mother in law’s death the government will cause to occur very rapidly a complete, world wide economic collapse in which money would be worthless. She is not sure how soon after her mother in law’s passing this will occur. At one time she felt it would just be a few days; now she is not sure how much time will pass. She saw lots of paper money blowing about the streets and no one bothering to pick it up. There are a number of scriptures, both in the Bible and in modern revelation which refer to Babylon falling, and an economic collapse occurring in “one day”. She has not been shown how this collapse would occur, but she has been shown on many occasions that it would occur very quickly over just a relatively few days. She says that “we will hear rumors which will get louder and then the collapse will happen very quickly.”

FIRST EARTHQUAKE: Within about 10 days after the economic collapse there would be a substantial earthquake along the Wasatch Front in Utah. She says that this quake “doesn’t seem that hard but because it lasts so long there is quite a bit of damage.”

SECOND EARTHQUAKE: Within about 15 days after the first earthquake there would be a second earthquake that would be INCREDIBLE. (I have another friend or two who have seen these quakes and they say that this second quake would be the biggest quake ever recorded by man.) The damage would be massive and would include the breaking of every dam in the mountains above the Wasatch Front. The Jordanell dam will break and then when the surge hits Deer Creek, it too will break and a huge wall of water over 80 feet high will scour Provo Canyon and everything in front of it. There will also be massive liquifaction of the ground in the west part of the valley. Buildings will be falling like dominos. There will be massive fires and floods. Travel south out of Salt Lake Valley will be blocked because the huge sand and gravel deposit at the Point of The Mountain will slide across the entire valley making it impossible to go across this loose material on foot. Also, very wide and deep crevices will open up in this same area. The crevices will be perhaps 600 feet deep and 500 to 600 feet wide.

MARTIAL LAW: Sometime between the economic collapse and the second earthquake martial law would be imposed in Utah and perhaps over the entire country. The rioting, looting, mobbings, etc. that will follow the economic collapse will be unlike anything this country has ever experienced. She says this martial law will be incredibly oppressive and brutal, worse than Nazi Germany. People caught outside after curfew will be shot. People will be prohibited from meeting, praying or leaving the area. Those caught doing so will be executed, Armed troops will have authority to search homes and seize food, arms and ammunition and anything else they choose to take. This oppression will be so severe that people will pray night and day for deliverance. The U.N. will relocate people and sort them, some will be executed and others sent to work camps. She saw armed soldiers rounding up groups of men and then shooting them. She saw that men were very scarce in the valley.

THIRD & FOURTH EARTHQUAKES: Perhaps five or six months - perhaps longer, after the second earthquake a third earthquake will hit the Wasatch Front destroying everything and everyone left in the area. Gail thinks that this quake is in response to the prayers asking for relief. This third quake will result in significant shifts in the earth’s crust that will cause a series of massive quakes all over the world. Sometime later there will be a fourth quake in the Wasatch front of such incredible magnitude that she saw Mount Timpanogos sinking away and a new mountain appearing in the middle of Utah Valley. When I asked Gail to review this in Sept. 1996 she added the following: “Last week I saw the whole valley under water. I was standing on the Point of the Mountain looking both ways to Utah Valley and Salt Lake Valley and saw all of it under water. The water was lapping up against my feet. I was up on the foothill. I also saw the cracks in the earth with molten lava coming out of them.”

PLAGUES: Following the second earthquake one or more terrible quick killing diseases would break out in the Utah area and kill many. The disease(s) will be something like the Ebola virus that kills very quickly. While Gail was talking on the radio about these plagues a man named “Robert” called in and said he had been shown these diseases and he was also shown that the governing powers controlling the troops would be responsible for unleashing the disease on the people. Gail agreed with this. According to both of them the entire area from Northern Arizona to southern Idaho would be sealed off and turned into a “dead zone.” They said that the purpose for all of this is to kill Christians and particularly the LDS.

U. S. INVADED: Shortly after the second earthquake the United States will be attacked by invading forces. Russia will invade the East coast and China the West coast. The invasion will include missile attacks. She was shown that the invasion would occur when people were eating and drinking which Gail believes to be Thanksgiving, but possibly Christmas. There will be nuclear attacks on both coasts, Las Vegas, and perhaps in Utah.

BEGINNING OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST: She and others have also been shown some events involving the leadership of the LDS Church. The governing power(s) would threaten to exterminate the entire church if the leaders did not cooperate. The church leaders agree to cooperate with the corrupt government rather than trust in and turn to the Lord. The deal is that the Church leaders will tell the LDS people to bring their food storage into central church controlled locations which will then be shared among all the members. However, instead the Church turns everything over to the government. Then the government, (probably U.N. controlled) requires that people receive an implanted computer chip in their right hand or forehead before they can draw anything out of the storehouse(s). This will be the beginning of the “Mark of the Beast” in the world. Gail says, “Those who wake up at this point and refuse to take the mark will have their heads cut off.” Revelations speaks of people being beheaded and also says that those who do take the “Mark of the Beast” will lose their salvation and exaltation. It is definitely much better to be beheaded than lose everything by accepting the mark - besides, they will be resurrected fairly quickly anyway. [The scriptures on the “mark of the beast” are in Revelations 13:15-18, 14:9-11, 16:2, 19:20 & 20:4] She was also shown that the government would not keep its part of the deal with the Church leaders and after getting the food storage would proceed to do its very best to exterminate the church and its members. Based on what Gail has been shown it looks like the purpose of the martial law, at least in Utah and adjoining areas, will be to contain the people in these areas so that they will die as a result of disease, famine, etc. What Gail and others have seen fits precisely with the “covenant with death” that Isaiah saw the latter day church leaders entering into, which covenant would be “disannulled” and the people would be “trodden upon” anyway. Isaiah 28 beginning at verse 14.

STATE OF THE LDS CHURCH IN THE LATTER DAYS: For those LDS who believe that “all is well in Zion” and that the Brethren would never lead us astray, you might consider the profoundly negative things that the Lord has to say in 2 Nephi 28 about one in the Church in the latter days (it could only be the presiding officer of the church) who wrongly teaches that “all is well in Zion.” (It’s not likely that whoever it is will use those exact words but the essence of his message will be the same.) I find nothing in the scriptures to support the proposition that the “Brethren will never lead the people astray.” In fact, the Lord has said in several different places to “trust not in the arm of flesh” but rather to look only to the Lord and only trust in Him and His revealed word as found both in the Scriptures and personal revelation via the Spirit. See e.g., 2 Nephi 28:31-32; D&C 1:19-20; D&C 45:56-57; & Matt 24:37 (Inspired Revision).

In fact, what the scriptures have to say about the Church in the latter days is that the Gentile church (Ephraim) would get seriously off track. Before considering these scriptures I recommend pondering Joseph Smith’s last prophetic dream which he had the night before his murder in Carthage as found on pages 393-394 of “The Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith” compiled by Joseph Fielding Smith. In that dream Joseph saw himself returning to a beautiful farm he had owned in Kirtland, Ohio. Only now the fields were weed filled, fences down, and the barn was a mess with its doors and windows out and the floor torn up. While he was standing in the dilapidated barn a group of men approached, some with knives, and threatened him saying the property was theirs now and they would not give it back. Joseph said in effect that while he still legally owned it, never having sold it or given it to anyone he did not particularly want it back. Then a second group of men also carrying knives, etc., entered and began arguing with the first group over the property. Joseph just walked away while they argued among themselves. Since Joseph never owned a farm at Kirtland the farm must be symbolic of something else, undoubtedly the Church.

Now to the scriptural evidence concerning the state of the LDS Church in the Latter days.

ISAIAH:
Of all the Prophets Isaiah seems to have the most to say about the LDS Church in the
latter days. I’ll begin with some Isaiah scriptures in the Book of Mormon since there is no question that these apply to our days.

2 Nephi 19:13-16 (Is. 9): The people do not seek the Lord so in ”one day” the Lord will “cut off”
(cause to die) “the head” or “the ancient” (the Pope) and “the tail” or “the prophet that teacheth
lies” (could only be an LDS Prophet). He then says “the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.” See also 2 Nephi 13:12 & 28:14. If a Pope (possible an Eastern Orthodox Patriarch but more likely a Pope) and an LDS Prophet die on the same day then you will know that that Prophet was “the prophet who teacheth lies”.

Is. 22:15-25: Describes “Shebna, which is over the house” (an LDS President and Prophet) whom the Lord will “drive...from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down” (be driven from office in disgrace) and be replaced by “my servant Eliakim”. Thus, Isaiah prophecies of two separate LDS prophets, one who teaches lies and will die in office and Shebna who will be driven from office, who are seriously off course and not acceptable to the Lord.

Is 28: Verses 1-13 describe the “drunkards of Ephraim” who “are on the head of the fat valleys” (rule over the prosperous valleys of Utah). The “drunkards” are so drunk with pride that they err and are “out of the way” and “err in vision” and “stumble in judgment”. For this they are “trodden under feet” (destroyed). Then, beginning at verse 14 Isaiah describes the “covenant with death” entered into by the “scornful men who rule this people in Jerusalem” (the Prophet and other Brethren in Salt Lake City). Significantly, in verses 2-3 Isaiah refers to a “mighty and strong one” who “as a tempest” shall “cast down to the earth... the drunkards of Ephraim”. Compare this with D&C 85:7 & Ezek. 34:23-24.

The unhappy state of the latter day Church seems to be one of the recurring themes throughout Isaiah. I am quite certain this message is a big reason why the Savior and earlier prophets of this latter day dispensation wanted us to see but could not expressly mention, so they simply said “Read Isaiah”.

EZEKIEL:
Read 33:30-33 and the entire Chapter 34 referring to the latter days and “shepherds who feed not the sheep”

MORMON & NEPHI:
Nephi in 2 Nephi 28 and Mormon in Mormon 8 (particularly beginning at verse 35) describe the errors of the LDS church that the Lord showed to them for the benefit of those in this dispensation with ears to hear and eyes to see. Both prophets describe similar problems including rejecting Christ and the Holy Ghost (rejecting the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost), pride, materialism and neglecting the poor in order to build imposing buildings.

Recall Pres. Benson’s profound message on pride as being “the sin of Zion”. Ensign, May, 1989, pp. 4-7.

JESUS CHRIST:
The Lord in 3 Nephi 26:6-11 describes a “trial of faith” that He (Christ) would give those who received the record (the LDS). If they passed the trial they would receive the greater things from the sealed portion of the plates. Since the LDS have not received these things it’s obvious that the LDS as a whole have failed the Lord’s trial of faith. See also additional statements of the Savior in which He describes the condemnation of and His displeasure with the Saints. D&C 84:49-59, 1:19-20; 45:56-57 and 107:81-84 (if the Prophet can’t err why then did the Lord establish a procedure for impeaching the Prophet?)

Because the Church would reject Christ and His Gospel (by rejecting the doctrine of the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, the profound experience in which the natural man dies and one is reborn as a son or daughter of God, D&C 39:5-6), Jesus told us at least 4 separate times in 3rd Nephi that the Lamanites would tread down the gentiles. 3 Nephi 16:15; 20:16; 21:12; & 21:22.

For more information on the baptism of fire see Addendum JOSEPH SMITH: “We have heard men who hold the priesthood remark that they would do anything they were told to do by those who preside over them [even] if they knew it was wrong; but such obedience as this is worse than folly to us; it is slavery in the extreme; and the man who would thus willingly degrade himself, should not claim a rank among intelligent beings, until he turns from his folly.

A man of God would despise the idea. Others, in the extreme exercise of their almighty authority have taught that such obedience was necessary, and that no matter what the saints were to do by their presidents they should do it without any questions. When Elders of Israel will so far indulge in these extreme notions of obedience as to teach them to the people, it is generally because they have it in their hearts to do wrong themselves.” Joseph Smith in the “Millennial Star, Vol 14, Number 38, pages 593-595.

BRIGHAM YOUNG:
“I am more afraid that this people have so much confidence in their leaders that they will not inquire for themselves of God whether they are led by Him. I am fearful they settle down in a state of blind self-security, trusting their eternal destiny in the hands of their leaders with a reckless confidence that in itself would thwart the purposes of God in their salvation, and weaken the influence they could give to their leaders, did they know for themselves, by the revelations of Jesus, that they are led in the right way. Let every man and woman know, by the whisperings of the Spirit of God to themselves, whether their leaders are walking in the path the Lord dictates, or not.” Discourses of Brigham Young, John A Widtsoe, pg. 136

“The First Presidency have a right of great influence over this people; and if we should get out of the way and lead this people to destruction, what a pity it would be! How can you know whether we lead you correctly or not? Can you know by any other power than that of the Holy Ghost? I have uniformly exhorted the people to obtain this living witness, each for themselves; then no man on earth can lead them astray.” Discourses of Brigham Young, pg. 137

The above material is certainly not all the material on point but should be more than sufficient to get the message across. In fact, I have not yet found anything in any of the four standard works of scripture which says anything other than the Church in the Latter Days gets seriously off track. ONE CAN ONLY TRUST IN CHRIST!

WHEN DOES THIS SEQUENCE OF EVENTS BEGIN?

Gail has not been told exactly when the chain of events would begin. She has been given the following information: In September of 1995 her mother appeared and told her that the economic collapse would be “in October.” She was not told which October. When she began getting all the information about the events of the latter days she was told that these things would occur “soon, very, very soon.” Around the latter part of August or the first part of September 1996 she was told that the “great and terrible day of the Lord is here.” Around early Sept. 1996 her mother came to her and told her that the “Abomination of Desolation was beginning.”

After one of her radio shows in 1996, a woman called and wanted to talk to Gail because she wanted to know how much she should believe her five year old son. As the story unfolded, her son was looking at the grass fires on the west side of Utah lake that occurred in July of 1996. While watching the fires he said “Mom, that’s what it’s going to be like after the earthquake.” When she asked who had been telling him about the earthquake, he answered “Jesus, momma.” The rest of the story is that he asked to look at a calendar for 1996. This boy can not yet read or write and is just barely learning some letters and numbers. As he leafed through the pages of the calendar he stopped at the month of November and pointed to Tuesday Nov. 19 and told his mom that was the day of the big earthquake. Gail told the boy’s mother that if she had a son like that she would believe him.

Dr. Jack Stockwell also had an experience in which he saw a timeline showing earthquakes in the world from the 1950's into the year 2000+. On this timeline each quake was marked by a vertical line. Other than markers for the years and decades the only date shown him on the timeline was “November 1996" which appeared over one of the biggest lines on the chart indicating an incredibly massive quake.

Navajo and Hopi prophecies say the destructions would begin in the year in which they have no crops. 1996 is such a year for they did not even plant crops this year.

CONCLUSION: As I said at the beginning, while none of the stories I’ve heard over the last ten years about precisely when these events are to begin has yet been correct, that does not mean that the information given here is wrong. Each person has to take these matters to the Lord and let the Lord tell you what you should do. I do have a very uncomfortable itch in my bones that tells me that the cleansing events must begin sometime soon, certainly within the next few years. What is the Lord trying to tell you?

Is Gail Being Deceived? When I talked to her about the possibility of her being deceived she said she doesn’t think so. She explained that since she began having the experiences with her sister and mother Satan has come to her many times and in many different guises. Each time she has detected him and discovered his deceptions. She says that his deceptions have a different feel than do her mother’s appearances. Every one of the events discussed here has been shown to Gail by her mother.

The final conclusion remains the same. It is incumbent upon each recipient of this material to take these matters to the Lord and learn the truth directly from Him.

UPDATE JULY 29, 1997

Warning Process identified as the “Gathering of Eagles”: Sometime around May-June 1997 Gail received a call from Menno Pauls, a man in Vancouver, B.C. He explained that he had obtained a copy of an earlier version of this material, he had received much the same information and wanted to talk with her about their common experiences. She, of course, was delighted to talk with him. During their conversation he shared these experiences. About 1974 he began to receive basically the same information about future events that Gail has received. He was then given the names and sometimes the addresses of specific people that he was to go to and tell them what he had been shown. At the time he owned a window washing business and was unable to leave it without someone taking his place. He was told to go and see the people he had been directed to see and that his business would be taken care of. He then said that he literally had angels washing windows for him while he was away. In 1981 he was told to sell his business. Since he sold his business he has had sufficient means for his needs and has been sent to more people all over the world to tell them about the future events he has been shown. Recently he was told that this process he was engaged in was called “the gathering of eagles”. See Matt 24:28. He was also shown that at some point many will be literally picked up from wherever they are and taken by the Spirit to places of refuge. Matt. 24:41-42 Many of those taken up will be terrified because of not understand what is happening. The role of the “eagles” is to explain to those people what is happening to calm their fears and comfort them. Others engaged in the warning process that I am aware of include Gordon Michael Scallion, Dumitru Dudiman, and “To His Glory Ministries”, in Syracuse, New York. The prophecies of Dumitru Dudiman are available on the InterNet (just search for this name) as are the prophetic experiences of several others at the “To His Glory Ministry” site, where I find the prophetic rhymes of “Jo Ann G.” to be particularly interesting. While I have not searched the net for Gordon Michael Scallion’s information I’d be very surprised if at least some of his information was not there.

METEOR TO HIT EARTH: Some months ago Gail’s mother came to her and showed her a large meteor/comet hitting earth. There would be little warning, perhaps a few hours or a day or two. It would fragment into pieces and impact in the western U.S. and the Pacific ocean. The man from Vancouver was shown that it would have a sterilizing effect killing a third of the life in the ocean and a lot of other plant and animal life. He also was shown that it would generate a huge tidal wave 500 feet or more high that would hit the entire west coast. Neither Gail nor her friend from Vancouver have any information on when or where in the sequence of events this meteor will occur.


UPDATE August 26, 1997

Gail has been told that October the 10th and 29th are significant days. Gail has also seen great, strong winds blowing throughout Utah. The first quake does much more damage than previously thought or seen, due to the length of time of the shaking. The first two earthquakes happen in the early morning, and the second two happen in the afternoon. The time period between the second and third quakes could be months, or it could be years! There will be phenominal fires after the second quake. The third quake will happen in some April in the future. After the third quake, there will be water shooting up from the Great Salt Lake, and the lake surface will be burning. Water will fill both the Salt Lake and Utah Valleys. Before the 4th quake we must be under Jesus Christ's protection in "cities of light" in order to survive. And for the record, Gail has discussed the time when she will be persecuted, and how shortly after this happens these things will begin; well, the persecution is taking place as of this update!

I myself have also seen many of these things in dreams or visions, and know numerous others who have also. There have been a lot of people who have listened to Gail, and have decided that since these things did not occur in 1996, they are not going to occur.

These people are wrong! We must remember that everything is variable, depending upon men's actions here upon the earth. I know that these woes and destruction's will occur, because I have seen them, and have read and studied the scriptures. We must each look inside ourselves, and decide what we must do to "Come unto Christ" and become spiritually prepared for his judgements to be released upon the earth. ~Enoch144

ATTACK ON IRAQ IS “BEGINNING OF THE END”
FEBRUARY 12, 1998: URGENT WARNING FROM GAYLE’S MOTHER
(SECOND REVISION Sat. 2/21/98)

In a telephone conversation with Gayle (of “Gail’s Story” and “Gail’s Story Updated”) this morning, Sat. Feb. 14, 1998, Gayle told me that her mother had come to her two mornings ago Feb. 12, with a grave warning. Before I repeat the warning from Gayle’s mother I want to first tell you about the message Gayle received about three weeks ago as she asking the Lord about when things were going to start happening. Gayle was seeking understanding because she was deeply concerned about the confluence of such current events as:

1) the obvious growing shakiness of the global financial situation;
2) the crisis in Iraq precipitated by Saddam Hussein’s refusal to allow the UN weapons inspectors to do their job, the insistence of Pres. Clinton that the weapons inspectors must be allowed to continue, the U.S. military preparations for a military strike on Iraq, and Russia and China’s stern warnings that an attack on Iraq is totally unacceptable and will mean war; and:
3) the huge turmoil over the Clinton-Monica Lewinsky sex scandal.

In response to her earnest prayer she received from the Lord the message that “NOW IS THE HOUR. THE HOUR HAS COME”

During a conversation this morning, Feb. 19, 1998, Gayle mentioned that on Oct. 1, 1997 she was told that “In all things there is a point of no return and we’ve reached that point.”

On Thursday morning Feb. 12, 1998 Gayle’s long deceased mother again returned and gave her the following message.

“The military base closure around the nation is like plucking a bird of its feathers. If you take them one at a time they will be gone before the bird realizes it can no longer fly. That we will be defenseless before we realize it.”

Gayle then said that her mother went on to say:

“If our President invades or attacks Iraq that it will be an all out war. That it will be leading up to the invasion of this country (United States) because they have everything in line. That they will be able to collapse the economy of the United States. They want the troops away from the United States so they can initiate the economic collapse and martial law, to take away personal weapons and the military will not be here to defend us. And then they invade.”

Gayle said her mother told her, “THIS IS A WARNING. WAKE UP AMERICA.”

NEW MATERIAL: Since I originally wrote this the following additional pieces of information have come to me:

A microbiologist named Larry Wayne Harris (Mr. Harris has a web site that I found at "http://norden1.com/~hawkins/CIVIL.HTM” in one search using his full name with Infoseek) has an audio cassette tape out in which he talks about ways biological weapons have been brought into the US, including by Iraqi women who’ve entered the US carrying vials of anthrax and perhaps other biotoxins secreted in vials in their body cavities, and that these toxins are ready to be released here. (Mr Harris’s story is spelled out in totally believable, bone chilling detail at the above web site.)

[ADDED Sat. 2/21/98] Mr. Harris has been arrested in Las Vegas along with Mr. William Leavitt for possession of Anthrax. The media has labeled them as terrorists. Mr. Leavitt is married, the father of three children and a former Bishop of the Logandale Third Ward of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Information on the web site of the “Las Vegas Review-Journal” (I found it in my first search for “Larry Wayne Harris”. Yesterday there was only one reference that Infoseek brought up, today the same search brought up 23 references.) provides information on this story and good biographical background information on these men. My question is why now has the government arrested and smeared these men who say they have developed antidotes to Anthrax and other biotoxins??? The evidence supports Harris and Leavitt. The federal government action strikes me as an extremely ominous move. [End of addition]

Now, add to the above information about the biological weapons the possibility of at least some of the purportedly 100 or so Russian suitcase size nuclear weapons that are apparently unaccounted for and that makes for the potential of a very nasty surprise package. [A number of people, including Gayle, have been shown nuclear explosions in the US and in Utah.]

[ADDED Sat. 2/21/98] The wife of a good friend works in material support (basically a huge parts department) at Hill Air Force Base, Utah. During the Gulf War this base and their department was a major source of support for repair parts for the planes and personnel over in the Golf. At that time their department could locate and ship needed parts, etc. within a few hours. Since then that capability at Hill has been completely dismantled. It now takes up to 10 DAYS to even find a single part. The morale among personnel in this department is below rock bottom.

[ADDED Sat. 2/21/98] The McNeil-Lehrer Report on PBS has reported that not one of the countries in the middle east or other allies such as Japan that supported the Gulf War financially have agreed to support Clinton's threatened strike on Iraq. Does this look like as big a set-up to any one else as it does to me? [End of 2/21/98 addition]

I have received several messages from a prophetic discussion group at “prophetic@revival.gen.nz” concerning the following:

1. The timing and content of the current big hit “Titanic” is no coincidence. It is rather a divine message to us of what is about to happen to the US. I’m told the movie concerns an adulterous love affair on the doomed ship between a man who subsequently drowns and another man’s wife. The Titanic allegory is as profound at that level as it is at the level of the suddenness of the destruction about to occur to those who are living it up in the lap of luxury on the doomed Titanic. [This is completely in accord with the number of biblical prophecies from both the old and new testament of the destruction of “Babylon” in the last days in “one hour” and in “one day”. Dumitru Dudiman has told us that he was told specifically that the US is the “Babylon” of the last days spoken of in the scriptures. A simple search on the web for “Dumitru Dudiman” will find several sites containing his extensive prophecies.]

2. A man, identified as “John”, wrote on Feb. 17, 1998 that after reflecting on the warnings to William Cohen from Russian diplomats that if the US attacked Iraq (quoting John) “it could very possibly start a world war”, he (John) was prompted by the Spirit to pray as follows, ”Just and true are thy ways thou King of saints. Lord, let they judgments come that the harvest may be reaped, for your judgments are true and righteous altogether.”

In addition to the attack on Iraq, it’s widely known that North Korea is apparently poised to attack South Korea at any moment. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that to North Korea the best time to attack would be right after we attack Iraq, especially if the US is hit with either or both anthrax/nuclear weapons.

Many, including Isaiah and Gayle, have been shown the invasion of the US by Russia on the east coast and China on the west coast. Isaiah says that they invading forces, after accomplishing great destruction will be stopped by divine intervention and themselves destroyed &/or driven back. One man was told that the invasion would occur after the US ships troops to Korea.

I’ve also heard that the Warburgs, the most powerful Illuminati family, is totally committed to the US attacking Iraq because (1) that would make all the Illuminati “banksters” wealthier because they finance both sides, and (2) it would be a major move to depopulating the world. The well known report from the Club of Rome states the Illuminati objective of reducing the world’s population to about half a billion, a bit less than 10% of its current population.

COMMENT ON THE ILLUMINATI: [THEY’LL LEARN THE HARD WAY THAT GOD IS IN CHARGE] While this handful of the world’s most obscenely wealthy appear to believe that the war they are now fomenting will bring to final fruition the objectives they’ve been working towards since their founding in 1776, they are profoundly oblivious to the fact that they are nothing more than a besom of destruction in the Lord’s hands.

God has always used the wicked to scourge and punish the wicked. Likewise will these unimaginably selfish and wicked scourgers, who with unfathomably obscene arrogance think “they are in control”, themselves “fall into the pit which they have digged” as has been long prophesied and also be cleansed from the earth. to receive their oh so well deserved rewards.

ADDITIONAL REFERENCES: Below are several web sites containing a wealth of prophecies, both ancient and contemporary, concerning the profound changes which the earth is about to experience. For those who either (1) may doubt that there is a God who is in charge or (2) wish to delve into the wealth of the evidence that is readily available on this subject, the following sites are excellent entrees into this extensive body of information.

http://www.aplus-software.com/thglory/thglory.html
[”To His Glory Ministries” home page- I particularly like the prophetic messages of Joann G. A number of interesting topics. Also some good links. I particularly enjoy the “Jim Bramwell home page” accessible off of “Links”]

http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~revival/indexto.html
[an extremely interesting web site]

http://www.ucc.uconn.edu/~ipa94001/earth.html
[home page for “Spirit of Truth” some interesting material on a wide variety of subjects including some fascinating and highly credible explanations of what really lies behind Saddam Husein’s apparently irrational provoking of the US]

If these have any interest to you I can suggest a few more. Let me know.

Other sites of possible interest:

http://www.eatel.net/~wsomers/

http://www.exodus.org/dreamsvisions/
[has what may or may not be accurate information on the finding of the Ark of the Covenant]

ADDENDUM ON THE BAPTISM OF FIRE
By Randy Klimt

[NOTE: I’ve tried to write this entire paper for all people without regard to their faith or lack thereof. Of all the people mentioned only Gail, Dr. Stockwell and I are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints also called “LDS” or “Mormons”. However, because of our church affiliation, I’ve written some of this more for LDS with scriptural references being mostly LDS scriptures. Those who are not LDS need not be concerned about the LDS stuff. WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS WHETHER ONE WILL TURN TO CHRIST AND TRUST IN HIM REGARDLESS OF WHAT CHURCH ONE BELONGS TO OR NOT. I’ve added this addendum for those LDS who may be interested in more information on the doctrine of the baptism of fire. It may also help them understand why much of the cleansing tribulations will begin around Utah. That reason being where much is given much is expected, and it’s apparent from the scriptures that the Lord knew the LDS would not do all that well with what they would receive. IMPORTANT: read all the scriptures cited.]

The doctrine of the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost is THE CENTRAL TRUTH WHICH THE LATTER DAY SAINTS HAVE BEEN REPEATEDLY COMMANDED TO TEACH and which the Book of Mormon expressly says the Latter Day Saints will largely reject. THE “LOST” DOCTRINE OF THE BAPTISM OF FIRE is that every person must seek for and obtain their own remission of sins through an event or experience known by many names including “ the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost.” Remission of sins DOES NOT COME thru or with mere baptism in water. While there is a process of qualifying for it, the actual Baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost is a profound, recognizable EXPERIENCE that, among other things, changes human nature by expunging the natural man, fills one with the pure love of Christ, and bestows a remission of sins. It is the application of the Savior’s atonement to one’s life. It is THE WAY one becomes clean and therefore eligible to return to Father’s presence. It is the mighty change that fills one’s heart with charity and enables a group of such changed people to establish a true Zion Society. Moses 7:27; 4 Nephi 1. (The Latter Day Saints have conclusively demonstrated that a true Zion society can not be established with those who are still “natural men”.)

One of the big keys to seeing the central importance of the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost is to become aware that the scriptures use many synonyms to refer to it including the following: come unto Christ; conversion; sanctification; born again; becoming a son of God; becoming clean; becoming as a little child; born of the Spirit; becoming a new creature in Christ; hope; entering into the strait and narrow path; having clean hands and a pure heart; mighty change of heart; receiving the Holy Ghost; regeneration; remission of sins; partaking of the goodness of God; and spiritual healing. All these synonyms and more can be most often identified by recognizing one or more of the effects of this mighty change of heart then being discussed. Once you know the synonyms you see the doctrine discussed literally everywhere. The Book of Mormon is full of examples of the experience such as King Benjamins’s people, Alma the Younger, Enos, the Lamanite lynch mob in Helaman 5, King Lamoni, etc. The greatest example is found in 3 Nephi chap. 19.

Coming fully unto Christ through the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost is the central message of the Book of Mormon. It is the principle doctrine restored in the restoration. Only remnants of this doctrine remain in the Bible. It is also the heart of the Savior’s message in 3rd Nephi. Consider-

THE SAVIOR’S OWN STATEMENTS OF HIS GOSPEL
D&C 39
5 And verily, verily, I say unto you, HE THAT RECEIVETH MY GOSPEL RECEIVETH ME; AND HE THAT RECEIVETH NOT MY GOSPEL RECEIVETH NOT ME.
6. And this is my gospel, - repentance and baptism by water, and then cometh the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, even the Comforter, which showeth all things, and teacheth the peacable things of the kingdom.

In at least four additional places, Jesus defines His gospel as including the element of the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. D&C 33:11-12; 3rd Nephi 9:13-22; 11:28-41; & 27:13-29. See also Nephi’s unsurpassed discussion in 2nd Nephi beginning at 31:1 through 32:6 and Enoch’s retelling of Adam’s explanation of the Gospel and the account of Adam’s complete baptism in Moses 6:40-68.

COMMANDMENTS TO TEACH THE FULNESS INCLUDING THE BAPTISM OF FIRE
D&C 19
31 And of tenets thou shalt not talk, but thou shalt declare repentance and faith on the Savior, and remission of sins by baptism, and by fire, yea, even the Holy Ghost.
32 Behold, this is a great and the last COMMANDMENT which I shall give unto you concerning this matter; for this shall suffice for thy daily walk, even unto the end of thy life.
33 And misery thou shalt receive if thou wilt slight these counsels, yea, even the destruction of thyself and property.

See also D&C 49:11-14; 53:3-4; & 55:1-3. Also, in 3rd Nephi 11, the Lord, after again defining His gospel in verses 31-38 to include “fire and the Holy Ghost”, then says in verses 39-41:
39 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my doctrine, and whoso buildeth upon this buildeth upon my rock, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against them.
40 And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil, and is not built upon my rock; but he buildeth upon a sandy foundation, and the gates of hell stand open to receive such when the floods come and the winds beat upon them.
41 Therefore, go forth unto this people, and DECLARE THE WORDS WHICH I HAVE SPOKEN, unto the ends of the earth.

The commandment to “teach nothing but repentance unto this generation” (D&C 6:9; 11:9; 14:8; & 18:6) is well known. In D&C 19 the Lord makes it clear that “repentance” is one of the many synonyms for the rebirth in the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. In D& C 19, after three times commanding Martin Harris to repent (vs. 13, 15 and 20) and then in verse 21 commanding Martin to “preach naught but repentance”, finally, in verse 31 the Lord restates and clarifies this commandment, telling Martin to “declare repentance, and faith on the Savior, and remission of sins by baptism, and by fire, yea, even the Holy Ghost.” Clearly Jesus was not giving Martin two different commandments about what to preach, but only explaining it in different words.

JOSEPH SMITH
The Prophet Joseph plainly taught the paramount importance of the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost: You might as well baptize a bag of sand as a man, if not done in view of the remission of sins and getting of the Holy Ghost. Baptism by water is but half a baptism, and is good for nothing without the other half - that is, the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

The Savior says, “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” “Though we or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” according to Galations 1:8. Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, at pg 314.

The baptism of water, without the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost attending it is of no use; they are necessarily and inseparable connected. An individual must be born of water and the Spirit in order to get into the kingdom of God. TPJS at pg. 360. The reason that baptism by water is useless without the baptism or fire and the Holy Ghost, is because the baptism of fire applies the Savior’s atonement to that person and grants a remission of sins. Without the remission of sins the Savior’s atonement might as well never have happened. This is why rejecting the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost is a rejection of Christ Himself. D&C 39:5.

Only those whose garments have been washed clean in His Blood may return to the presence of God. D&C 88:21; Mormon 9:6, 14; Moroni 10:32-33 Every person is under the condemnation and bondage of sin until receiving their own remission of sins through the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. D&C 84:49-59

SCRIPTURES INDICATING THE LDS WOULD REJECT THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST
The original Nephi and Mormon both speak of the sins of the Latter Day Saints in 2 Nephi 28 and Mormon 8. Among the several charges they both make against us are the following: “Why are ye ashamed to take upon you the name of Christ?”, Mormon 8:38; “they shall teach with their learning, and deny the Holy Ghost, which giveth utterance. And they deny the power of God, the Holy One of Israel;...” 2 Nephi 28:4-5; “Yea, wo be unto him that hearkeneth unto the precepts of men, and denieth the power of God, and the gift of the Holy Ghost!”, 2 Nephi 28:26. Also in 2 Nephi 32:7, Nephi, after writing the plainest, most complete explanation in all of scripture of the doctrine of Christ and the necessity of the baptism of fire (2 Nephi 31:1-32:6), is forbidden by the Spirit from writing more and then sorrowfully pens this sobering lament:

And now I, Nephi, cannot say more; the Spirit stoppeth mine utterance, and I am left to mourn because of the unbelief, and the wickedness, and the ignorance, and the stiffneckedness of men; for they will not search knowledge, nor understand great knowledge, when it is given unto them in plainness, even as plain as word can be.”

This could only be referring to the Latter Day Saints, since they are the ones who would have his record. Much of the information on the baptism of fire is in “Experiencing The Mighty Change”. It’s by far the best work on this topic I know of. For more details I refer you to this excellent resource. I’ve heard that Deseret Book carried it; perhaps they still do.

NOTE TO OTHER CHRISTIANS ABOUT THE DOCTRINE OF THE BAPTISM OF FIRE
The most well known example remaining in the Bible of the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost is of course the account of the Day of Pentacost and a few additional accounts in Acts. Unfortunately, the Adversary has been so successful in his efforts to suppress this doctrine that there is not enough information left in the Bible to really pull all of the pieces together. However, since the Lord is in charge and knew that all of this would happen, I’m confident that it’s all part of His plan and that among those who trust in Him whatever misunderstandings there are about this and all other doctrines will all be cleared up as needed after He returns to reign during the Millennium. The real essence of true religion is in the two divine laws of love, namely to love God and our fellow man and act accordingly in all things. All else is simply corollaries to these governing laws of love.

AUGUST 5, 1998

In a conversation I had with Gail this morning, she told me that for the last 3 weeks or so she has dreams, etc every night all impressing on her how close the cleansing tribulations are and how urgent and vital it is to turn to Christ. During this time she's been repeatedly shown numerous instances of the coming martial law situation and how terribly oppressive it will be. For example, those without the mark of the beast will be killed and/or imprisoned.

She's also seen repeatedly an angry dark sky full of huge, dark, roiling clouds that are just about to bust loose with terrible storms.

Something not generally reported is what she has been shown starting last fall and winter about the magnetic pole change that will occur and how this will be accompanied by unprecedentedly severe winds in the range of 300-400 MPH that will scour literally everything off the earth where those winds touch. On one occasion she was up in Salt Lake, about 45-55 minutes from her home in Alpine, UT. She somehow sensed or was shown that the magnetic pole shift was beginning and she immediately began heading home in her car.

Before she get home the pole shift was complete and the scourging winds had begun.

Within these last 3 weeks she's also seen repeated scenes of these awesome winds blowing and the accompanying clean sweep of all that these winds touch.

Within the last couple of months a very strong tornado hit a small town north of Kansas City and basically wiped out the downtown. I recall one report that said how the winds had literally pulled an entire basement with walls and floor right out of the ground. These tornadic winds were around 150-200 MPH. Imagine what winds TWICE that powerful will do.

WHERE ARE THE GADS THESE DAYS?

When I see the state of our Union these days and of the wickedness of those in high places, I can't help but see the parallels to the Gads of old whose sole purpose was to get gain, power and authority over others around them. The idea of a public servant actually serving (in the George Washingtonian model) is foreign and ludicrous to most in the halls of power today. There are two sets of standards - the retirement plan for Congress and the retirement plan for the people. The health care for the elite who rule us - and what the commoner has. These complaints are just the tip of the iceberg.

Here is a great article I found on the matter. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did:

CLICK LINK

Lets bring this madness to an end and not vote for slicksters who are only interested in others' agendas and their own self-promotion. In doing so, we support the gads of Gads who troll the marbled halls of our Capitol.....

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE DISILLUSIONED WITH THE EXISTING INEFFECTUAL TWO PARTY SYSTEM

Now remember, this is not a political blog - but one that decries the downfall of this great nation from one of Godliness to one of an "unblessed" nature where we deal only in regret and memories of what used to be and a prolonged state of mourning that the previous Nephites were in as they looked on their fair ones who had fallen.

This piece is something my wife sent that sums up our awful state of political decline and manipulation. Whose state is not possible to change due to the spiritual intoxication of the majority of the population:

We Americans need to wake up to the "Quigley Formula" and realize we are played like pawns in these false and manufactured "right vs. left," "democrat vs. republican" sham arguments and contests. Almost all of talk radio runs in this format, the Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/O'Reilly propagandists and their counterpart "liberal" media leave a ton of issues off the table and just run a dialectic that many fall for. Rather than bring up real news, they manufacture a bunch of hype to divide Americans in immature and foolish bickering, keeping people's eye off the real issues if greatest import to the power elite, the Military-industrial-complex and the moneychangers. Meanwhile, behind the scenes, the Dems and Repubs are in alignment and united on the weighty matters of the CFR agenda, of which David Rockefeller boasts to be part of, saying it is a "secret cabal" they are working for to bring about a new global "order." This he states on page 405 of his book "Memoirs" published in 2002.

Here is the Quigley formula as spell out by Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown, Professor Carrol Quigley who wrote "Tragedy and Hope" which was meant for the eyes of the establishment only, not for public consumption:

"The National parties and their presidential candidates, with the Eastern Establishment assiduously fostering the process behind the scenes, moved closer together and nearly met in the center with almost identical candidates and platforms, although the process was concealed as much as possible, by the revival of obsolescent or meaningless war cries and slogans (often going back to the Civil War). … The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy. … Either party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies." [Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time (New York: Macmillan, 1966), pp. 1247-1248.]

SHOULD WE SUPPORT AND MAINTAIN A STANDING ARMY WHOSE EFFECT IS FELT IN ALMOST EVERY NATION UNDER THE HEAVENS?

I was shocked a few years ago when I began finding stunning statements of the LDS Church' First Presidency. In regard to mandatory military service, look what they said back over a half century ago, especially point numbers 14-17. And who can argue with David O. McKay.... We bring upon ourselves what is coming by our own lack of blindness and our lack of understanding of what is written in the Book of Mormon regarding the proper use of force. We need to tread lightly on our attitudes and support for those who have, with their silver and gold, bought up armies and false priests (politicians and otherwise) who oppress the people in a non-millennial form of existence:

STATEMENT BY THE FIRST PRESIDENCY REGARDING UNIVERSAL COMPULSORY MILITARY TRAINING

We print below a letter dated December 14, 1945, addressed by the First Presidency of the Church to each member of the Utah Congressional Delegation-Senators Thomas and Murdock and Congressmen Granger and Robinson. Word has now been received by the First Presidency from both Senators and both Congressmen expressing their approval of and belief in the sentiments, reasons, and conclusions set forth in the letter. The letter follows:

“Press reports have for some months indicated that a determined effort is in the making to establish in this country a compulsory universal military training designed to draw into military training and service the entire youth of the nation. We had hoped that mature reflection might lead the proponents of such a policy to abandon it. We have felt and still feel that such a policy would carry with it the gravest dangers to our Republic.

“It now appears that the proponents of the policy have persuaded the Administration to adopt it, in what on its face is a modified form. We deeply regret this, because we dislike to find ourselves under the necessity of opposing any policy so sponsored. However, we are so persuaded of the rightfulness of our position, and we regard the policy so threatening to the true purposes for which this Government was set up, as set forth in the great Preamble to the Constitution, that we are constrained respectfully to invite your attention to the following considerations:

“1. By taking our sons at the most impressionable age of their adolescence and putting them into army camps under rigorous military discipline, we shall seriously endanger their initiative thereby impairing one of the essential elements of American citizenship. While on its face the suggested plan might not seem to visualize the army camp training, yet there seems little doubt that our military leaders contemplate such a period, with similar recurring periods after the boys are placed in the reserves.

“2. By taking our boys from their homes, we shall deprive them of parental guidance and control at this important period of their youth, and there is no substitute for the care and love of a mother for a young son.

“3. We shall take them out of school and suffer their minds to be directed in other channels, so that very many of them after leaving the army, will never return to finish their schooling, thus over a few years materially reducing the literacy of the whole nation.

“4. We shall give opportunity to teach our sons not only the way to kill but also, in too many cases, the desire to kill, thereby increasing lawlessness and disorder to the consequent upsetting of the stability of our national society. God said at Sinai, “Thou shalt not kill.”

“5. We shall take them from the refining, ennobling, character-building atmosphere of the home, and place them under a drastic discipline in an environment that is hostile to most of the finer and nobler things of home and of life.

“6. We shall make our sons the victims of systematized allurements to gamble, to drink, to smoke, to swear, to associate with lewd women, to be selfish, idle, irresponsible save under restraint of force, to be common, coarse, and vulgar, all contrary to and destructive of the American home.

“7. We shall deprive our sons of any adequate religious training and activity during their training years, for the religious element of army life is both inadequate and ineffective.

“8. We shall put them where they may be indoctrinated with a wholly un-American view of the aims and purposes of their individual lives, and of the life of the whole people and nation, which are founded on the ways of peace, whereas they will be taught to believe in the ways of war.

“9. We shall take them away from all participation in the means and measures of production to the economic loss of the whole nation.

“10. We shall lay them open to wholly erroneous ideas of their duties to themselves, to their family, and to society in the matter of independence, self-sufficiency, individual initiative, and what we have come to call American manhood.

“11. We shall subject them to encouragement in a belief that they can always live off the labors of others through the government or otherwise.

“12. We shall make possible their building into a military caste which from all human experience bodes ill for that equality and unity which must always characterize the citizenry of a republic.

“13. By creating an immense standing army, we shall create to our liberties and free institutions a threat foreseen and condemned by the founders of the Republic, and by the people of this country from that time till now. Great standing armies have always been the tools of ambitious dictators to the destruction of freedom.

“14. By the creation of a great war machine, we shall invite and tempt the waging of war against foreign countries, upon little or no provocation; for the possession of great military power always breeds thirst for domination, for empire, and for a rule by might not right.

“15. By building a huge armed establishment, we shall belie our protestations of peace and peaceful intent and force other nations to a like course of militarism, so placing upon the peoples of the earth crushing burdens of taxation that with their present tax load will hardly be bearable, and that will gravely threaten our social, economic, and governmental systems.

“16. We shall make of the whole earth one great military camp whose separate armies, headed by war-minded officers, will never rest till they are at one another’s throats in what will be the most terrible contest the world has ever seen.

“17. All the advantages for the protection of the country offered by a standing army may be obtained by the National Guard system which has proved so effective in the past and which is unattended by the evils of entire mobilization.

“Responsive to the ancient wisdom, ‘Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it,’ obedient to the divine message that heralded the birth of Jesus the Christ, the Savior and Redeemer of the world, ‘. . . on earth peace, good will toward men,’ and knowing that our Constitution and the Government set up under it were inspired of God and should be preserved to the blessing not only of our own citizenry but, as an example, to the blessing of all the world, we have the honor respectfully to urge that you do your utmost to defeat any plan designed to bring about the compulsory military service of our citizenry. Should it be urged that our complete armament is necessary for our safety, it may be confidently replied that a proper foreign policy, implemented by an effective diplomacy, can avert the dangers that are feared. What this country needs and what the world needs, is a will for peace, not war. God will help our efforts to bring this about.

“Respectfully submitted, GEO. ALBERT SMITH, J. REUBEN CLARK, JR., DAVID O. MCKAY, First Presidency.”

A WICKED NATION IS ONE THAT WHERE YOU ARE CONTROLLED TO THE POINT THAT AGENCY DOES NOT EXIST

Me-thinks we are a wicked nation. How many felonies have you committed in the last year? I am sure I have committed a few unknowingly..... We really are ripe as a nation and ready to be bound down. Read this article if you don't believe me:

CLICK LINK

http://www.yolohub.com/economy/19-signs-that-america-has-become-a-crazy-control-freak-nation-where-almost-everything-is-illegal

Watching this video makes me want to throw up and get the hell out of this place - or fight to the death. I have stories in my personal life where the local city gov't wanted to levy $34,000 against me (administratively) for cutting invasive blackberries on personal property. Not cool - watch the video and rage against the machine. It has to be destroyed before it will get better..... Hate to say it folks - its the same kind of crap that got our Savior killed in His day. Regulation and overzealous freaks. As I have said for the last 10 years, people in Russia have more freedoms than we do.....

WATCH THIS

Can't wait for millennial glory. Lord come quickly and free your people from the tyranny and wickedness!

STATE PREPARING FOR ECONOMIC/SOCIAL COLLAPSE

Folks, this is serious as a heart attack. We now have members of the Union (including Texas) making solid plans to deal with the contingency of a total collapse that would largely spare them from the chaos.

I cannot believe this is happening in my lifetime:

Wyoming lawmaker introduces doomsday bill
By msnbc.com staff

CHEYENNE – Fearing an economic and political collapse nationwide, Wyoming lawmakers are moving ahead with legislation to deal with a doomsday scenario -- complete with plans to create a state currency.

“Things happen quickly sometimes — look at Libya, look at Egypt, look at those situations,” the bill’s GOP sponsor State Rep. David Miller told the Star-Tribune in Casper. “We wouldn’t have time to meet as a Legislature or even in special session to do anything to respond.”
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According to the Star-Tribune, House Bill 85 would create a state-run “government continuity task force,” to prepare Wyoming for potential disruptions in food and energy to a complete breakdown of the federal government.
Miller is also asking for the task force to look into creating its own state currency in the event the dollar loses value entirely.

The Wyoming House of Representatives advanced the legislation on Monday, but eliminated language calling for plans to implement its own military draft, army and acquire an aircraft carrier.

The bill now must pass two more House votes before it would head to the Senate for consideration.

“I don’t represent people in Illinois or New Jersey. I represent people in Wyoming,” Miller said. “And I want them to be protected from any catastrophic events that may beset the rest of the country.”

OH, WOW! WE ARE BECOMING ACCEPTED OF THE WORLD!

You know, the one thing I have never wanted to hear is that the world loves us - especially when it is for the following reasons listed in the results of a recent Pew poll:

For all that, the survey reflected an overall sense of optimism, with 63% of Mormons saying the American public is becoming more accepting of their church, and 56% saying they believe the country is ready for a Mormon president.

The survey was the most extensive ever conducted of American Mormons, according to Allison Pond, deputy editor of the editorial page at the church-owned Deseret News in Salt Lake City and an advisor to Pew on the poll. She said the results largely confirmed what was already known about Mormon beliefs.

Pond said she found it particularly gratifying to see that 86% of respondents said they found polygamy to be morally offensive.

“I’m hopeful that that statistic will start to get some play,” she said. “I think that can tone down a lot of the conversation” about polygamy.

Multiple marriage was condoned in the early days of the Latter-day Saints, but has been prohibited by church doctrine since the late 19th century. Despite that, it still is widely associated in the public mind with the Mormon Church.

Pew surveyed 1,019 self-identified Mormons between Oct. 25 and Nov. 16. The survey had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

Polygamy is morally offensive to 86% of the survey respondents??

Not like I am running off to Texas to join one of the polygamous sects (I can't even keep my dear wife's honey-do list down to one page), but hello, folks - you, like Mitt Romney and so many others are repulsed by a doctrine that Abraham, Jesus, Joseph, Brigham and so many other venerables found perfectly fine and even commanded it. I think, if you were standing in front of any of those venerable people, you might be feeling less than happy about your stance..... But that's okay folks, you are in the world - and when you are in the world, you darned well better do what the world wants, now. Wouldn't want to offend any of our neighbors.....

And I am surprised how that so many of my fellow adherents want to vote for a guy whose values change with the wind direction...... We are headed for a crash landing people.... WAKE UP!!

THE BASICS - THE ABC'S OF LIFE; THE ABORTION TO BREAST CANCER LINK

Well, here is a favorite topic - and one that is heavily censored in this great *FREE* land of ours.....

This link is clear and obvious. When the baby is birthed normally or when its spontaneously aborted by the woman's body, all the radical cells are shut down and do not congregate in the breast tissues and begin their life as future cancer cells. Just one of those little gentle nudges to help rational people see the good sense in doing what's right:

Abortion Nearly Triples Breast Cancer Risk, New Study Finds

by Steven Ertelt | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 11/28/11 12:12 PM

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A new study published by scientists who examined diabetes mellitus type 2, reproductive factors, and breast cancer found a statistically significant association showing a 2.86-fold increased breast cancer risk from one induced abortion.

The study, led by Lilit Khachatryan, included researchers from Johns Hopkins School of Public Health and the University of Pennsylvania. Khachatryan is from the Department of Public Health, American University of Armenia, Yerevan, Armenia; Robert Scharpfb is from the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health and Sarah Kagan is from the School of Nursing at the University of Pennsylvania.

The study, published in Taylor & Francis, also found that delaying a first full-term pregnancy, which is frequently done by women having abortions, also raises the breast cancer risk wheras giving birth resulted in a 64% reduced risk.

Khachatryan’s team reported a statistically significant 13% increased breast cancer risk for every one year delay of a first full term pregnancy (FFTP), with delayed FFTPs until ages 21-30 or after age 30 resulting in 2.21-fold and 4.95-fold increased risks respectively. On the other hand, women with FFTPs before age 20 did not see a comparable breast cancer risk.

They wrote: “Any birth was protective (adjusted OR = 0.36, 95% CI 0.20–0.66). Each year delay in first pregnancy increased risk (adjusted OR = 1.13, 95% CI 1.01–1.27) as did induced abortions (adjusted OR = 2.86, 95% CI 1.02–8.04).”

Karen Malec of the Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer said she is not surprised by the findings because, “Fifty-four of 67 epidemiological studies since 1957 report an abortion-breast cancer link (not counting biological and experimental evidence).”

The study was not without some problems, Malec said, as the authors only one severely criticized study (Melbye et al. 1997) to make a claim that they did not believe there was enough evidence to prove the abortion-breast cancer link. Although Melbye’s team found no overall increased risk, they reported a statistically significant 89% increased risk for those having abortions after 18 weeks gestation.

Malec also noted another problem.

“Khachatryan’s group cited recall bias as a possible limitation of their study, but tellingly provided no citations to support that claim. According to this hypothesis, the only reason that scientists find an ABC link is not because abortion really does raise risk. Rather, more women with breast cancer accurately report their past abortions than do healthy women,” she said.

“Similarly, authors of the Uzbekistan Health Examination Survey (which received financial and technical assistance through the US AID-funded MEASURE DHS+ program) said induced abortion is not negatively stigmatized in former Soviet states and that the collection of data is, therefore, successful,” she added.

“National Cancer Institute (NCI) branch chief Dr. Louise Brinton and her colleagues admitted in a 2009 study led by Jessica Dolle that abortion raises risk,” she said. “”They demonstrated that they know recall bias is a red herring used to prop up abortion. After Brinton and the NCI told women during the agency’s 2003 workshop to disregard retrospective studies because they were flawed due to recall bias, Brinton and Jessica Dolle and their colleagues subsequently used supposedly “flawed” data from their group’s 1994 and 1996 studies for their 2009 study.”

She notes that Dr. Joel Brind, one of the world’s foremost researchers on abortion and breast cancer, says, “The recall bias argument has been repeatedly disproved in the literature.”

Brind concluded that Khachatryan’s team “did not-and perhaps were not allowed to-characterize their findings honestly in the politically correct atmosphere of the U.S. and Europe. The good news is that they were able to report their findings in a prominent peer-reviewed journal at all.”

IRAN IS ON THE BRINK

One thing I always pound home when talking to people about world events is that we must never interfere with Israel's destiny. If we do, we are in direct opposition to God and His purposes. If God has declared certain things prophetically, then those who oppose those things are doing the adversary's work. An attempt to thwart the inevitable truly embodies the spirit of "kicking against the pricks".

I also state that Israel has the right to self-determination and a right to exist and to reparations, etc; almost because of how others have treated them through the last 2,000 years. Much as we have given certain groups in our nation certain privileges even above the rest of us to make up ground for haven been given the short end of the stick for so long, so do the Jews have a right of sorts to have "it made up to them" for all the wrongs committed against them by almost all Western peoples. Truly, them they have been driven as a "dumb ass" - warranted or un-warranted - and its time to give them a rest from those worries and afflictions.

I am happy to report that Israel may be exercising their right towards Iran - a nation whose leadership has vowed to openly (and who has worked surreptitiously through hamas and other channels) to "wipe Israel off the map". May the nation with the just cause win this one - even though I fear anything Israel does may ignite some serious bloodletting in the middle East.

Here is an article that talks about some elimination of some Shahab III missiles from Iran's arsenal:

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=245352

You can't deliver a nuke to wipe out Israel, if your ballistic missiles are smoking pile of rubble..... I love a good pre-emptive strike.... LONG LIVE ISRAEL! May they have a Zion heart and find success in their endeavors!

BUILDING ZION - THE SPIRIT AND FAITH OF THE ANCIENTS

For those who plan to survive what is coming, I am going to pass on a key. This key will provide the spirit and the essence of what we have to do and be in order to move to the next level (Millennially speaking). Those who cannot or will not, will be swept from the face of the earth by the destroyer - for God will only bear up a Zion people - and I remind my older kids of this who know the principles of Zion, when they are not sharing or bickering amongst themselves of some petty thing.

When I first read the following account, it made me weep and touched me to the core. If it does not resonate with you, then I am sorry for you if you are a bearer of the Holy Melchizedek Priesthood. As I go over to buy my mini Montana ranch which has been had through miracles, I again feel this story resonate with me as I feel God's hand directing my footsteps of faith:

A REMARKABLE EXPERIENCE ON OUR MONTANA RANCH

We were trailing 600 head of cattle from the upper Little Bighorn Valley to our Wolf Mountain ranch, a distance of 65 miles. The drive lasted four days.

At the outset, I became very despondent. A gloom settled over me like I had never known before. Try as I would, I could not get relief from it, nor could I determine it's cause. There was no known reason for it. It seemed that prayer was of little consequence. On the fourth day, we were nearing our south range where the cattle would enter the ranch. I was not too well acquainted with the country, so I went on ahead of the herd to scout the best route. I pondered me feelings all the way and without hardly knowing it, I came to the gate where we would enter the ranch with the herd. Not feeling inclined to dismount, and to open the gate, I sat thinking over the situation. I had prayed earnestly while riding along to get an answer to this problem, when to my astonishment, a voice said to me, "What are you doing with your Priesthood? Why don't you use your Priesthood and bless your ranch?" I, therefore, dismounted and, obedient to the voice, I blessed by the authority I held, the grass, the vegetation of all varieties, the air and sky above, the water resources, the springs, the wells, the reservoirs; I blessed the cattle and all else pertaining to our property. Then I rebuked each and every agency of destruction that would in any way harm the property. Having done this, I mounted and headed back to the herd.

Out of time! Gotta go now and bless my own piece of Montana - do check back in a few days. The rest of the story is astounding and makes me believe that most of use live well below our means.... This will be one of my favorite jewels of this blog.

ANOTHER INTERESTING TIDBIT - MASSIVE TSUNAMI WEST COAST

I just got off the phone with my SIL from the midwest area who is a great woman on par with my good wife. We would like them to join us in the hills on our insane little exercise of self-preservation. I don't know if she realizes it - but there will (at some point) be as much devastation there as there will be here. It may be of a little different form, but utter chaos and devastation nevertheless. They will need to evacuate soon enough. Each couple has to come to that conclusion for themselves and act accordingly. That inspiration is the divine "filter" that God uses in the separation of the righteous and the wicked. Those that are able to heed the still small voice due to their spiritual proclivities automatically select themselves for continuance. The equation is simple - the effects of decisions total.

My wife struggles with how/why God would allow so many innocents to perish (kids, etc) and I just refer her to what happened during the flood. It was better that God hit the reset button and allow the succeeding generations of innocents to have a fair shake than to continue to allow his sweet ones to go to perverse homes where, due to surroundings and environment, their innocence would be sacrificed to the hellish whims of how their parents chose to live their lives. Sometimes, when we are lowered into the abyss and due to the ever so slight gradiations, cannot sense our impending danger, we become victims ourselves. Thus the analogy to those who have fallen into a deep sleep - it is intoxicating.

So, back on topic. My sister-in-law was telling my wife and I last night that as a 15 year old (living in the Portland area), she had a very vivid dream of a massive wave topping the coastal range and sloshing into the Willamette valley. That is a massive wave in order to get over those hills. She, for months, has been worried about her family here on the west coast. I now am just as incrementally concerned just a little bit more when that sounds in. My Catholic friend who had the incredible three nephites healing and conversion to God said it would make it as far inland as Eastern Washington and slosh around in that basin. My MIL had a similar dream where she was barely above the level where she was affected - I do not think that something under 2500' would be enough.

One more little piece of data with interesting implications. I think this M12.5 may come about, just as predicted.

THE BRETHEREN ARE "IN THE KNOW"

I HAVE A FRIEND IN UTAH WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS COMING. HER QUESTION IS WHY WE HAVE NOT HAD A WARNING FROM THE BRETHEREN ON THIS THING. I WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION (ACCORDING TO MY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE/SPECULATION ON THE SUBJECT). IN THE MEAN-TIME, HERE IS SOMETHING FROM ONE OF MY BEST SOURCES OF INFO, LDSFREEDOMFORUMS.COM (CLICK LINK):

Re: Elenin evidence to judge for yourself

Postby Zkulptor » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:04 pm

Rass922 wrote:

Zkulptor wrote:Rass,
What do you think would be the best and worse case scenario? Do you feel this will change the way we live? or maybe just fireworks in the sky? and when will we see this happen?



Consider as that brown dwarf moves closer to Earth the changes will continue to escalate; in other words, it won't go zero to sixty in thirty seconds. The changes will continue to escalate, both in quantity and intensity. Eventually something big will snap, but overall you will "see" it coming even before it is visible in the sky just by watching the increase in earth changes.

I suspect however that once something big does happen (and that can include more than just a tectonic plate moving -- tides rising worldwide, a first-world city evaporated by an incoming bolide or a massive earthquake,the possibilities are endless) you will see a panic that will suck up survival commodities in a heartbeat. Then whatcha gonna do?


I wonder if this is the event Elder Scott spoke about according to Elias Returns ( member here)... he said the following was stated 6 months prior to his post, he posted this Monday January 24th 2011 , so it has been almost a year since this was said, I am not saying this is Church Doctrine, I am just wondering about what said brother posted... food for thought...:

Elias Returns wrote:WOW!......this is an exciting post. We had Elder Kim B. Clark from BYU-Idaho preside over our last Stake Conference and he had stated a certain conversation that he had 6 months prior with Elder Scott at dinner. Elder Scott had stated " that the Brethren of the Church are very concerned, because we as a Church do not have enough teachers (missionaries) available to help teach the massive amount of new members that are going to be coming into the Church in the next couple of years. We know that we are close to the Saviors return, and that the times ahead will get much, much worse. And because of what is coming, we will see millions coming into the Church for help, and as a place of refuge from what is coming. This will happen very soon, and we need to get our Brothers and Sisters prepared to help."

This was a word for word account given by Elder Clark, as written down from both myself and my wife who both attended, together, this Stake Conference.- (Disclaimer Added to protect our good name) :D

I believe that this will happen after AOA, because that is when as we are counseled through modern revelation and direction by the GA's that the cleansing in His own House will start as well as the cleansing of America, such as wars, scourges, food shortage, economic collapse and such. The time I feel is very close, and no we won't know when AOA takes place, but I have a feeling we will right afterwards. :wink:

SALT LAKE PROPHESIED TO BE AMONG THE WICKED CITIES OF THE WORLD

I HAVE POSTED ALOT OF STUFF ON THIS BLOG ALONG THESE LINES. HERE ARE SOME MORE QUOTES TO BACK THIS CONCEPT/CONDITION UP FROM ASKGRAMPS.COM:

Dear Gramps,

Is what I have heard so many times true that in the last days that Salt Lake City will become a great and abominable city, and that blood will flow down the gutters? If so where is this found?

GS, from Utah

Dear GS,

Salt Lake City was spoken of as a wicked city as early at 1865. Heber C. Kimball, in the Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, p.82 – p.83, had this to say on the subject-

I do not say but that you are just as good men and women in this place as in any other place in the mountains; yea, I admit that the people are better in the country towns than in Great Salt Lake City, for the froth and scum of hell seem to concentrate there, and those who live in the City have to come in contact with it; and with persons who mingle with robbers, and liars, and thieves, and with whores and whore-masters, etc. Such wicked men will also introduce themselves into Davis County, and among all the settlements throughout these mountains; but where the people are truly righteous and just, wicked men can do them no harm; were the people all righteous who profess to be Latter-day Saints, they would constantly be on their watch against the encroachment of a wicked power. The wicked and corrupt who have settled in our community are taking a course to lead away those who are willing to be led away from the truth–those who have turned away from God; and it will be for our good, as a community, if such persons will leave and never again return to our Territory, unless they can do so with a determination to serve God and keep his commandments. I love those who love God; they are more precious to me than gold, and silver, or possessions.

This excerpt by Joseph F. Smith in 1870,

Instead of raising themselves to the standard of the Gospel, they are content to descend to the level of the wicked and corrupt. Many of the Elders of Israel who have responsibilities resting upon them, with which they will find they cannot trifle with impunity, are taking this course all the time. What wonder, then, that the Spirit of the Lord is grieved? What wonder that the Latter-day Saints need to be preached to continually? It is no wonder to me when I contemplate the condition of the people of these valleys, and especially Salt Lake City, Ogden, and our cities contiguous to the railways (Journal of Discourses, Vol.13, p.339 – p.340).

Here are the words of J. Golden Kimball, in a conference address in 1930,quoting the words of his father spoken in 1868,

I claim not to be a prophet, but I am a son of a prophet, and I expect to give you evidence-whether you question the truth of it or not-that shall be left with you-that Heber C. Kimball was a prophet of God. President Brigham Young on more than one occasion said: ‘Heber is my prophet, and I love to hear him prophesy.’ In May, 1868-that is sixty-two years ago–he said: ‘After a while the gentiles will gather in Salt Lake City by the thousands, and this will be among the wicked cities of the world.”

DESTRUCTION OF THE EASTERN SEABOARD

I had a chance to go to a polymeric coating conference in 1996 in Boston for some research I was doing for a small Pharmaceutical company I worked for in SLC. Because it was over a week, I was able to take my wife and leave our new baby with g-ma.

In the evenings, we were able to explore the city of Boston, Plymouth, Salem and on the last weekend, we were able to make a quick run out to Fort Erie and Niagara Falls, CA where I spent 3 1/2 years of my early life. I really wanted to see those childhood areas that I used to romp in when I was a kid, before I expected to pass from this life (an entirely other blog topic). We were able to see the country side, visit antique shops, go to the Sacred Grove, Hill Cumorah and see alot of great country side. I really love upstate NY - except for one thing. I felt a pall hanging over that part of the country - a palpable feeling I could not shake. The feeling was especially acute around Rochester. Something I could not describe - even today. The only other thing that was close - but radically different - was a vivid experience that I will share in another post about the most wicked city (I haven't been to Amsterdamned, so I can't speak authoritatively on that) in the world - Rio de Janiero.

I got the following off of ldsfreedomforums.com and thought it was good enough to share:

114. Nevertheless, let the bishop go unto the city of New York, also to the city of Albany, and also to the city of Boston, and warn the people of those cities with the sound of the gospel, with a loud voice, of the desolation and utter abolishment which await them if they do reject these things.
(Joseph Smith, History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 7 vols., introduction and notes by B. H. Roberts [Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1932-1951], 1: 294.)

"'Now, my young friends, I wish you to remember these scenes you are witnessing during the visit of President Young and his brethren. Yea, my young friends, treasure up the teachings and sayings of these prophets and apostles as precious treasure while they are living men, and do not wait until they are dead. A few days and President Young and his brethren, the prophets and apostles and Brothers Benson and Maughan, will be in the spirit world. You should never forget this visitation. You are to become men and women, fathers and mothers; yea, the day will come, after your fathers, and these prophets and apostles are dead, you will have the privilege of going into the towers of a glorious Temple built unto the name of the Most High (pointing in the direction of the bench), east of us upon the Logan bench; and while you stand in the towers of the Temple and your eyes survey this glorious valley filled with cities and villages, occupied by tens of thousands of Latter-day Saints, you will then call to mind this visitation of President Young and his company. You will say: That was in the days when Presidents Benson and Maughan presided over us; that was before New York was destroyed by an earthquake; it was before Boston was swept into the sea, by the sea heaving itself beyond its bounds; it was before Albany was destroyed by fire; yea, at that time you will remember the scenes of this day. Treasure them up and forget them not. President Young followed and said: `What Brother Woodruff has said is revelation and will be fulfilled'.fn Deseret News, Vol. 33, page 678.
(N. B. Lundwall, Temples of the Most High [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1993], 97 - 98.)