THIS BLOG ATTEMPTS TO SHOW HOW SCIENCE IS CATCHING UP WITH REVEALED RELIGION

THIS BLOG IS AN ATTEMPT TO PUT ALL THE COOL STUFF THAT I BUMP INTO ABOUT THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST AND EVENTS THAT LEAD UP TO IT INTO ONE LOCATION.
THE CONTENTS WILL BE FROM AN LDS PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING IN HERE, I DO NOT PARTICULARLY CARE TO ARGUE, UNLESS YOU CAN ADD TO THIS BODY OF WORK. I HAVE AN OPEN MIND, THAT IS WHY I READ STUFF FROM ALL DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND SEEK LEARNING FROM THE BEST BOOKS. I JUST AM NOT HERE TO ARGUE ABOUT IT - BUT TO PUT IT OUT THERE WHERE OTHERS CAN PERUSE/PURSUE IT. I TAKE PARTICULAR INTEREST IN HONEST SEEKERS OF TRUTH AND BELIEVE THAT SCIENCE IS REVEALED RELIGION'S BEST ALLY. YOU WILL SEE ALOT OF TOPICS IN THIS BLOG THAT SHOW SCIENCE BACKING - AND SLOWLY CATCHING UP WITH - REVEALED RELIGION.
ENJOY!!
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Thursday, August 9, 2012

IF THOU DOEST NOT WELL, SIN LIETH AT THE DOOR - CALLING GOOD. EVIL AND EVIL, GOOD

One of the more interesting things I found in my study of the wicked and adulterous generation is that there is a progression of things that seems to go as follows:
1) Get hung up on some point of doctrine
2) Get that wicked spirit about you (where you seek to counsel God's anointed - however mortal they may be)
3) Commit adultery (other forms of sexual sin qualify - if its not repented of)
4) Murder, etc

Read carefully what occurred in Cain's life. I had always surmised that he had somehow gotten tangled in some form of sexual sin to fit the standard pattern (and some people may skip some steps - but the end result is the same if they do "not well".... Sure enough, the Talmudic tradition states that Cain sought and had an adulterous affair with Abel's wife. There was more to the murder than just getting the physical property of Abel. It became much like what David went through - except, once warned (as they both were), one case ended in the ultimate badness - having walked and talked with the Lord previous to their fall. Here is the account - and read it carefully with an analytical mind. Draw the comparisons:

21 But unto Cain, and to his offering, he had not respect. Now Satan knew this, and it pleased him. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

22 And the Lord said unto Cain: Why art thou wroth? Why is thy countenance fallen?

23 If thou doest well, thou shalt be accepted. And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door, and Satan desireth to have thee; and except thou shalt hearken unto my commandments, I will deliver thee up, and it shall be unto thee according to his desire. And thou shalt rule over him;

24 For from this time forth thou shalt be the father of his lies; thou shalt be called Perdition; for thou wast also before the world.

25 And it shall be said in time to come—That these abominations were had from Cain; for he rejected the greater counsel which was had from God; and this is a cursing which I will put upon thee, except thou repent.

26 And Cain was wroth, and listened not any more to the voice of the Lord, neither to Abel, his brother, who walked in holiness before the Lord.

27 And Adam and his wife mourned before the Lord, because of Cain and his brethren.

28 And it came to pass that Cain took one of his brothers’ daughters to wife, and they loved Satan more than God.

29 And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die; and this that thy father may not know it; and this day I will deliver thy brother Abel into thine hands.

30 And Satan sware unto Cain that he would do according to his commands. And all these things were done in secret.

31 And Cain said: Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great secret, that I may murder and get gain. Wherefore Cain was called Master Mahan, and he gloried in his wickedness.

32 And Cain went into the field, and Cain talked with Abel, his brother. And it came to pass that while they were in the field, Cain rose up against Abel, his brother, and slew him.
Herein lies the problem.  In the Church, our numbers are approaching those of the world.  We are basically 5 years out of phase (behind) - but following the same primrose path to badness.  As we follow this path as a Church , there will be a huge amount of  Dr. Bennett(s) - of  Nauvoo fame.  The adulterous one who caused so much damage to the Church so many years ago.  These wicked and adulterous/fornicatious ones will become the stumbling blocks within the Church as we go thru this last sifting phase before the burning.

  This blog post originally posted in 2008.  Look where we are at right now........  Iraq

Friday, March 2, 2012

ANOTHER VIEW ON EVANGELIZATION OF EARLY NORTHERN EUROPEANS

THE AUTHOR IS A LINGUIST/HISTORIAN AND CRAZY SMART. I LIKE ALOT OF WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.

All LDS Missionaries, etc., who have served in the Scandinavian Part of the World, know how widely those Sagas are required reading for all of the School-age Children of the Scandinavian Countries. In them are the “explanations” of so much of the ancient “Culture” of the Way of Life of the People of Ancient Scandinavia. However, because of the influence of Mediterranean Statecraft, that arrived in and stayed in Scandinavia, the Populations there, though they delight in the Stories in those Sagas, treat them in the way that, it might be said, Americans treat the “Fairy Tales” which they tell to their Children. Be that as it is, the Person who gathered the World’s Greatest Collection of Genealogy Records, those of the LDS Church, whom Church Leaders said, “knew more about Genealogy that any person who has ever lived,” was very open in telling People that, “THE CHURCH’S BIGGEST COLLECTION OF THE GENEALOGY RECORDS OF THE WORLD PROVE THAT THE INFORMATION THAT IS CONTAINED IN THE ICELANDIC SAGAS IS TRUE!”

“What is that Information?”

That Information tells how, after His Resurrection, and after the Lord visited the Nephites, in the Americas, He returned to Judea and told the Members of His Church there that, “The Roman Princes are conquering wide, and the Church cannot remain there,” where it had been since the time when the Lord began it there.

Leaving 2 of the Apostles there, in the Near East, to administer for those among the Members of the Church who were either to old to travel or in Families with infants that were to young to travel, the Lord lead the rest of the Apostles and the rest of the Members of the Church as they traveled out of the Near East, around the west side of the Caucasian Mountains, northward up the east shore of the Black Sea, and, from there, across what is today the Country of the Ukraine, until they came to Saxony.

Because of what happened when they arrived in Saxony, ESSENTIALLY, ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF SAXONY WERE BAPTIZED AND BECAME MEMBERS OF THE LORD’S CHURCH. Then, the same establishment of the Church took place among all of the other portions of the Germanic Race who lived to the east of the Rhine River and throughout Scandinavia. This establishment of the Lord’s Church, there, among those Israelite Tribes, (“numerically” dominated, as they were, by those who were the Descendants of the Israelite Tribe of Ephraim), because of the continued Leadership, among them, there, by the Lord’s Apostles, who had the KEYS of the Lord’s KINGDOM, it was given the NAME of it being, “THE KINGDOM OF THE KEYS,” which words, in German, “Key-Reich,” are the origin of the English word, “Church.”

Thereafter, throughout the German-speaking Lands, this “STORY” of the coming, to them, of the Son of “GOD,” was given the name of it being the, “GOD-STORY.” In German that was, “Gott-Spiel.” Medieval Mediterranean Statecraft destroyed all of the Records of that that they could that were on the European Continent, including their elimination of that name. However, they were not able to destroy either those Records nor that name as they continued to be preserved on the far-off island of Iceland. There that Story is still called, “the God-Story,” the “Guth-spjal,” in Icelandic. And, on the “wilderness” Island, at that time, that the Angles, Saxons and Jutes had to escape to, the Island of Britain, although their Holy Records had been destroyed, they still retained there, on that Island, in some protection from the destructive forces of Medieval Mediterranean Statecraft, their original name for the “God-Story,” of the Visit of the Resurrected Lord to their Forefathers, the Anglo-Saxon name, “the Gospel.”


Now to consider the Horrible Evils caused by “the creeds of the fathers, who have inherited lies,” which have been “so strongly riveted … upon the hearts of the children, and filled the world with confusion, and has been growing stronger and stronger, and is now the very mainspring of all corruption, and the whole earth groans under the weight of its iniquity.”

“What caused all of those Evils?”

The Lord knew of those Evils that were “supported and urged on and upheld by that spirit,” Satan, “which hath so strongly riveted the creeds of the fathers, who have inherited lies, upon the hearts of the children.”

He knew so well how Satan, the Enemy of Mankind, would show the parts of Mankind who had not received the Lords Truths, ways to develop the Evils which they did which have been the cause of so many of the Horrors of Mankind, until this time.

However, the Lord also knew how to begin “the Protection” of the Beloved Sons and Daughters of God who had accepted His Everlasting Gospel.

“The Religion” of the Lord, [that the Lord gave so many of the Explanations for at a place which He created with Heavenly Miracles, at that time, which place was given the name, “Law,” which name endured for that place for many Centuries], was given the name, “Law,” among the People to whom He gave it.

A Central Part of that Law, that He established throughout all of Germanic Northern Europe - which is a part of the Constitutions of US States, such as it is a part of the Constitution of Utah, to this time - was His “Law” that:

“Every able-bodied young man, between the ages of 18 and 45, has to keep and bear arms and know how to use them. And, each of them has to put his life between the life of a Woman or a Child and a danger that is threatening them.”

[That is, if such a young man were to see something like a wolf coming out of a forest to attack a young Child, that young man did not run away. Instead, with his weapon, an ax, a sword, or whatever, he was to run up to that Child and tell the Child to run away. And, he was to drive off that wolf with his ax, sword or other weapon.]

The original name for this Law was that it was the “Law of the ‘Young Man Ry.’” Over the centuries that became known as, “the Yeomanry,” which is the origin of the Organization in a State of the USA that is, today, its “National Guard.”

This beginning, by the Lord, of the Yeomanries of the North European People, as that is told in the Icelandic Guthspjal of the Lord’s Visit to His People in Northern Europe, has been such a Heavenly Help to the Lord’s People, through the Centuries, in early times, protecting them from the annihilation that was plotted against them, as that is mentioned in D&C 86:3, down to the time when the Satanic Bank of England tried to steal from the New England Colonies their Lawful Rights to what became the US Midwest, by sending a Military Dictatorship’s Army over to New England to do that.

However that invading Army was stopped at Concord Bridge by “the Minutemen,” of the “Yeomanries” of so many of the Townships of Puritan New England, who had been alerted to that Army’s coming by Paul Revere and who outnumbered that invading Army by so many that they drove them away from Concord Bridge, back to Boston, then out of the rest of New England forever, beginning, as they did that, that which they took as the name for themselves, of their being, “the US Army,”


Now to consider some of the Terrible Evils that Satan has inflicted on those parts of Mankind who were not able to accept and live by the Truths of the Lord’s Gospel. This begins with things that happened in Europe and surrounding places, near to the year of 70 AD.


The “colleagues,” in Italy, of those who had run the “Babylonian-Persian-Greek Empire,” who made it so that they became the Military Dictators-Emperors of the Babylonian-Persian-Greek-Roman Empire, did that by doing Very Evil Things.

As those previous Empires, that Empire that operated in Italy, operated on the basis of Middle-Eastern Gold Coins.

The Evil by which those Emperors in Italy ran that Empire was that if a man would agree to kill, at the instructions of a Roman Emperor, in exchange for that Emperor paying him with a small, “solid” Gold Coin, that man was considered to be a “Solid-ier” of that Emperor, the origin of the English word, “Soldier.”

Operating that way, that was the way that those Roman Emperors were able to keep about ½ of all of the Humans that were under their Dictatorship as their Slaves. (It is an established fact, in History, that ½ of the Population of the Roman Empire were Slaves.) And, that percentage probably included nearly all of the Females of that part of the World that were the persons that were in that Enormous Prostitution Industry of the Roman Empire.

However, it was somewhat before the year 70 AD, when the Government of the Emperors of Rome found out that ALL of the Able-bodied Young Men of Germanic Europe - where an average Germanic man was quite a bit bigger than an average man of Ancient Rome - had been organized into a VOLUNTARY Yeomanry Army, that so greatly outnumbered the Army of that Emperor’s “Solid-iers,” (who had to be paid a solid Gold Coin in order to kill at that Emperor’s command), that was when it was that those Military Dictator-Emperors became so desperate. And, then, when they found out that it was Judes, from Judea, who were the ones who had gone up to Germanic Europe to do that organizing, they unleashed their Roman Empire’s Fury upon Judea, ripping down its Temple and killing so many of the People there, as the Lord, on His way to Calvary, prophesied to them that that was going to happen.

[Now to tell about a part of the Ancestral History of the English-speaking People that, when Cleon Skousen heard about it, he said that, “This is it,” what President McKay had prophesied to him would be, “The Way,” that “will open up,” that will stop that which is making Slaves out of so much of the rest of the World from continuing to keep on doing that to the LDS People, and will let Our People “continue” to “Work Together By The Law.”]



When the Lord went to Scandinavia, where He did the Heavenly Miracles that made the location that was given the name, “Law,” since it was the place where the Lord explained so many of the Details of His Law, the Israelite People who lived to the south of that place made a request of Him.

Emphasizing to Him for how many Centuries it had been that they and their Ancestors had been Looking Forward to the day when it was prophesied that their Messiah of Israel would come to them, they pled with Him that He would allow them to have Two Blessings.

Making the point that it was in the Land of their Ancient Israelite Ancestors where the Lord had come, to work out the Salvation for all of Mankind, in that part of that Land that is named, Judea, the ancestral Homeland of the Israelite Tribe of Judah, and pointing out the fact that the relation of his Earthly Body, to all of the rest of the Descendants of the Ancient House of Israel, was through the fact that His Mother was the daughter, who, along with her husband, were, in the Line of the Kings of all of Israel, who would have been that King and Queen, and that He would have, then, been the King of Judea, had it not been that Judea was under Foreign Conquerors at that time, they pled with Him that they could take the name of that Ancestral Tribe, that He was the Lawful King of, as the new name for their Tribe, and that they could name their Land, the Land of Southern Sweden, after the name of that Land where He was the Lawful King and where He had worked out and achieved the Salvation of Mankind.

The Icelandic Eddas report how the Lord gave them those Blessings which they asked Him for, and that they, thereafter used those names for themselves and for their Land. Apparently, because of the differences in Languages, instead of calling themselves, the “Judes,” (which is the name which those of the ancestral Tribe of Judah use for themselves), they came up with that form of that Name, for themselves, in their Language, that they were, thereafter, “the JUTES.” And, instead, to all of Southern Sweden, (south of Lake “Law,” which it was recorded that the Lord developed with those Great Miracles), that Land was given the name of it being, “JUTELAND,” as that name has been pronounced that way, as the name for that Southern part of Sweden, from that day in the First Century AD, until this time.


When, shortly after the Destruction which the Romans did to Judea, in about 70 AD, the information about that reached Scandinavia, the Jutes of Swedish Juteland, made a Decision about what they were going to do to save their Fellow Christian Judes, who were surviving in Judea or were elsewhere, in Asia Minor etc. (such as those who were in “the seven churches which are in Asia,” to whom the Apostle John had written, “The Revelation.”) Doing what they did, these brilliant, heroic People, the Jutes, are the Brilliant Knights who saved the Anglo-Saxon Tribes as Satan’s “tares” came, to “choke the wheat and drive the church into the wilderness. D&C 86:3”


[In the Reference Documents there is a relatively great deal of detail on how this Heroic Anglo-Saxon Tribe, of the Jutes, were the Inventors of what History identifies as: “The Second-most Important Invention in Military History,” the Invention that developed the “Knighthood” of the Middle Ages, by which the Jutes saved the Tribes of the Angles and the Saxons from the destruction that was plotted against them and by which so many of the other Evils that were plotted against Nordic Europe were stopped.

Of course, since the Works of the Jutes were the main things that that they were that blocked the Strategies of Medieval Mediterranean Statecraft from totally defeating the Nordic Race, the History that was tolerated in Medieval Europe by Medieval European Statecraft did not allow much information on the accomplishments of this Anglo-Saxon Tribe to be made available.

So, we will present some of these details of this Heroic People at this place. But, as mentioned, there is a relatively great deal of information on this Anglos-Saxon Tribe in the Reference Documents.]


Yeomanries of the Jutes, with their Families, took boats across the Baltic Sea, from Southern Sweden to the North Coast of Saxony. From there they, apparently, took the same trail from Saxony to the North Shore of the Black Sea that the Lord, the Apostles, and so many of the Members of the Early Church had taken, when they came from that Shore of the Black Sea to travel to Saxony.

When they got to the North Shore of the Black Sea they built numbers of boats to travel across that Sea to rescue the fellow Members of their Church, the Jude Christians etc., who lived in places in Asia Minor such as those to whom John the Revelator had addressed “The Revelation,” Revelation 1:4, “to the seven churches which are in Asia.”

When that Anglo-Saxon Tribe of the Jutes got to the North Shore of the Black Sea, where they established their residences for about the next two centuries, they made a “discovery.” The North Shore of the Black Sea is in the part of the World that is called, “the Eurasian Steppes,” the “Great Plains” of Eurasia that extend from the Alps, west of Hungary, eastward across Eurasia to Mongolia. That part of those Great Plains of Eurasia, that are the North Shore of the Black Sea, “watered” so much by the many large Rivers that empty into that Sea, along that Shoreline, have very extensive and “productive” Pastures. Apparently because of all of those very extensive and productive Pastures, that area is identified, in Biology, as, “the Homeland of the Horse.” That is, those Jutes, when they arrived at that North Shore of the Black Sea, came upon so many of the large One Ton Horses, such as the Clydesdales, Percherons etc., which they later introduced into Western Europe, as “the Workhorses etc.” there, of the Middle Ages.

However, the main thing which they did there was that they discovered that if they made a “Saddle,” for such a large horse, with a strap around its chest, then, with his feet in each of the (Jutish word) “Stirrups,” that went down each side of that large horse, a Jutish Knight could, “DELIVER THE ENTIRE VIOLENCE OF HIS ONE TON CHARGING WARHORSE INTO THE TIP OF HIS LANCE, WHICH WAS THE “DISCOVERY,” BY THOSE JUTES OF, “THE SECOND-MOST IMPORTANT INVENTION IN MILITARY HISTORY,” (after “The Most Important Invention,” Guns, that were discovered about 1,000 years later), “THE STIRRUPED SADDLE,” WHICH WAS THE INVENTION THAT MADE POSSIBLE THE KNIGHTHOOD OF MIDDLE AGES EUROPE, THAT THEY THEN DEVELOPED.

That “Second Most Important Invention in Military History,” by those Jutes, was, what ended there being such a thing as a Roman Empire ruling in Italy.

When the Roman Military Dictators learned of that Invention, by those Arch Enemies of theirs, they sent so many of their Solid-iers and Slaves to the Carpathian Mountain Range, that is to the west of the North Shore of the Black Sea, to build a line of Fortresses there, to stop those Knights from coming to the southwest of there, into Italy. However, when some groups of those Knights, on their huge horses, rode over to inspect what it was that those Solid-iers and their Slaves were building there, so many of those Solid-iers, terrified of this Most Important Invention in Military History, till then, just fled from those places where they were building those Fortresses.

When that happened numbers of those Knights with their Families moved over to live in the area to the south of that Line of Fortresses. Romans, with their Slaves, had come there to develop that area, to the south of those Fortresses, as a support for those Solid-iers, who were supposed to have stayed in those Fortresses that they were building. And, to that area to the south of that Line of Fortresses, where those Romans had been planning to stay, those Romans gave to it its name that it has had since, of, “Romania.”

When those Jutes and their Families moved in there, those Roman Workers and Slaves who were still there were so amazed at these beautiful, tall, brilliant and saintly People that they wondered what it was that made them so “wonderful.” Because of the Missionary Responsibility that the Members of the Lord’s Church know that they have, those Jutish Families wondered what it was that they could do best to let those Roman People who wanted to “investigate” the Gospel of their Church, do that. What was decided upon was that they would take their Christian Bible and make a copy of it, still in their Swedish Jutish Language but which they wrote with the Alphabet that the Romans used. This was, apparently, so appreciated by those Romans, who could, at least, then, pronounce what it was in the “Gospel” of the Jutes, that all of them loved so much. There is still a copy of that Bible of those early Members of the Church, which was given the Latin Language name of it being the, “Codex Argenteus,” which, through these many centuries, has been stored in the Upsala University Library in Upsala, Sweden.

That Bible, in the Language of the Jutes, but using the Romans’ Alphabet, was written over a Century before the Roman Military Dictators, in their Satanic plot to kill off so much of the Nordic Race, came up with their idea to say that the “Religion” of their Ancient Greek “Military Statecraft” was the same thing as the Christian Religion of the Jutes and of the other Tribes that were related to them.

Now for the Big Challenge for those Roman Military Dictators. With that Huge Cavalry of the Knights of those Jutes, now so widely establishing themselves in Romania, from where that Cavalry could invade into Italy, any time that they wanted to, with the Romans having no defenses there adequate enough to stop them, the Roman Military Dictators had to make their Biggest Defensive Decisions.

There was no way that they could keep their Military Headquarters on the Italian Peninsula, which the Knighthood of those Jutes could ride into any time that they got the idea to do that. So, they moved their Military Headquarters over to a temporary location, at the northwest tip of Asia Minor, from where their huge Roman Navy could stop any Invasion of the Military Headquarters of the Romans that was temporarily there. Then, they could keep that Headquarters there, for a while, while they built a Gigantic Fortress that was so big that it could withstand almost any attack, at the place they called, “Byzantium,” that was located on the “eastern-most tip” of southeastern Europe.

However, the Roman Emperor who went over to that northwest Asia Minor temporary Headquarters was very irritated by a “chieftain,” in an area where Ancient Persia used to be, that thought that he could conquer, for himself, enough of that area that he could create there his, “Parthian Empire.” That Roman Emperor went over to destroy that, would-be Parthian Empire and its would-be Emperor. However, when he got there, and started fighting that Parthian Emperor, there, that new Parthian Emperor had his Military organized so well that he defeated that Roman Emperor, with that Roman Army, and he put that Roman Emperor in a prison for the rest of his life.

When that happened, the person, whose name was Diocletian, who, then, replaced that previous Roman Emperor, became very interested in how that Ruler of that relatively tiny Empire had been able to be so effectively organized that he was able to defeat the Army of the Roman Empire, in the way that he did that.

Thursday, January 12, 2012

OH, WOW! WE ARE BECOMING ACCEPTED OF THE WORLD!

You know, the one thing I have never wanted to hear is that the world loves us - especially when it is for the following reasons listed in the results of a recent Pew poll:


For all that, the survey reflected an overall sense of optimism, with 63% of Mormons saying the American public is becoming more accepting of their church, and 56% saying they believe the country is ready for a Mormon president.

The survey was the most extensive ever conducted of American Mormons, according to Allison Pond, deputy editor of the editorial page at the church-owned Deseret News in Salt Lake City and an advisor to Pew on the poll. She said the results largely confirmed what was already known about Mormon beliefs.

Pond said she found it particularly gratifying to see that 86% of respondents said they found polygamy to be morally offensive.

“I’m hopeful that that statistic will start to get some play,” she said. “I think that can tone down a lot of the conversation” about polygamy.

Multiple marriage was condoned in the early days of the Latter-day Saints, but has been prohibited by church doctrine since the late 19th century. Despite that, it still is widely associated in the public mind with the Mormon Church.

Pew surveyed 1,019 self-identified Mormons between Oct. 25 and Nov. 16. The survey had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.


Polygamy is morally offensive to 86% of the survey respondents??

Not like I am running off to Texas to join one of the polygamous sects (I can't even keep my dear wife's honey-do list down to one page), but hello, folks - you, like Mitt Romney and so many others are repulsed by a doctrine that Abraham, Jesus, Joseph, Brigham and so many other venerables found perfectly fine and even commanded it. I think, if you were standing in front of any of those venerable people, you might be feeling less than happy about your stance..... But that's okay folks, you are in the world - and when you are in the world, you darned well better do what the world wants, now. Wouldn't want to offend any of our neighbors.....

And I am surprised how that so many of my fellow adherents want to vote for a guy whose values change with the wind direction...... We are headed for a crash landing people.... WAKE UP!!

Tuesday, January 10, 2012

PRE-CHRISTIAN BAPTISM BY JEWISH ADHERENTS

One of the markers that is easily identifiable among Israel in her scattered form is the odd/unique ritual of baptism.

I grew up under the assumption that this was something that Jesus had re-instated (we know Adam was baptized by the Holy Ghost) as a Christian principle as he went down to the River Jordan where John the Baptist was performing the ordinance. Then I learned about the Dead Sea scrolls that talked of the Essenes performing these rituals many years before the coming of Christ. That would make it a pre-Christian ordinance that had its roots in prior traditions. Then I began noticing what looks like fonts in archealogical sites of just about every culture where it we know the Israelites were scattered to including ancient America, Polynesia, India, Egypt, etc. I will post pics of them as I have time.

Then tonight, my Jewish friend told me his synagogue in India has a baptismal font out in front of it big enough that a person could be fully immersed in it - a true baptismal font - not a laver for ritual washing, but one big enough to have a stair case in order to fully descend and ascend from it. I have tried in vain to find a picture of that. Turns out, when Nephi/Lehi were driven out of Jerusalem, this Indian Jew's ancestors also fled Jerusalem and ended up ship-wrecked in India. They carried the traditions of the Jews from the 600BC period with them. Those included full ritual baptism before joining the faith and for other reasons.

SO, THEY HAD THE TRUTH - AND THE SPLINTER GROUPS (INCLUDING JESUS/JOHN THE BAPTIST) WERE ATTEMPTING TO RE-INSTATE WHAT HAD BEEN LOST THROUGH WICKEDNESS, ETC.

Here is something from Wikipedia on ritual baptism:

Full-body immersion

There are several occasions on which biblical or rabbinical regulations require immersion of the whole body, referred to as tevilah. Depending on the circumstances, such ritual bathing might require immersion in "living water" - either by using a natural stream or by using a mikveh (a specially constructed ritual bath, connected directly to a natural source of water, such as a spring).

This article discusses the requirements of immersion in Rabbinic Judaism and its descendents. Some other branches of Judaism, such as Falasha Judaism, have substantially different practices including the requirement of an actual spring or stream.

Conversion to Judaism

Traditional Judaism requires converts into Judaism to immerse themselves fully in water in a mikveh or body of "living water."


I asked my Jewish friend if other modern Israeli Jews practice this full immersion practice of baptism or cleansing and he said "NO". Anywhere that you are aware of?? His answer was again no! Mind boggling - and a clear sign that there was clear apostasy on at least that one doctrinal point between 600AD and the time Christ came. I am not sure, but the same may be said of the implementation of the Sacrament (bread and wine) among the pre-diasporatic Jews - the subject of my earlier blog piece of going to Sabbath prayers with my Jewish friend.

Here is another "font" of knowledge from a site dedicated to the practice of baptism among the Jews:

CLICK LINK FOR MIKVEH (BAPTISM)TRADITIONS AMONG JEWS

Saturday, May 28, 2011

A TYNDALE PROPHECY??

We can thank Tyndale for our modern freedom of religion and from oppression from the Catholic Church. He translated the Bible into english in order to give the common man (a plowboy would fit that bill) access to God's word so that they could refute the hellish practice of buying remission of sin through the purchase of indulgences; among others.

This is from a book by E.G. White that was given to my daughter by a stranger in a parking lot (I pointed out to her that E.G. would probably be referring to Ellen G. - the founder of Seventh Day Adventism) - but the quote is good nonetheless:

It was not long after that a learned Catholic doctor, engaging in controversy with him, exclaimed: "We were better to be without God's laws than the Pope's." Tyndale replied, "I defy the Pope and all his laws;and if God spare my life, ere many years I will cause a boy that driveth the plow to know more of the Scriptures than you do."
Anderson, Annals of the English Bible, p19.


Pretty interesting - without Tyndale's english rendition of the Bible which led to the King James version, Joseph would never have had access to the words of God in order to question it and ask the question - the most humble prayer of a plowboy that changed the world.....