Sunday, December 30, 2012

EVIDENCE THAT JESUS HAD A POSTERITY

If I am reading things correctly, Vern Swanson's book, Dynasty of the Holy Grail is getting ready for another printing and Barnes and Noble is taking pre-orders for it right now at over two times the price of the first printing.  I am fine with that - because I have seen enough of it (on google books) to know that it is well worth the $100 price with all the graphics, several hundred (large) pages, etc.

Also, the info contained in it is extensive.  I admire people who have the time and the research skills to pull something like that off.

Here is more related to this topic from a guy (on LDSFF) who thinks like I do:

Hope you enjoy this:

“…Joseph of Arimathea, according to the apocryphal Evangelium Nicodemi (Gospel of Nicodemus), was an early leader in the church. According to the apocryphal Vindicta Salvatoris, after the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70, Joseph set out to establish a church in the “far north”. According to the Celts, Joseph came to England and lived at Glastonbury, where he ordained his successors. The Celtic Church claimed this was an apostolic succession, just like that claimed by the church of Rome. The church of Rome naturally saw the Celtic church as a threat.
According to William of Malmesbury, writing around 1125, the apostle Philip sent Joseph to Britain in AD 63. Glastonbury was traditionally the first church in the British Isles. Augustine went so far as to say (on his mission here in 600) that Glastonbury church was first constructed “by no human art, but by the hands of Christ himself”. For this and other quotations, see “Saint Joseph of Arimathea at Glastonbury” by Lionel Smithett (London: Mowbray & Co., 1922) and “The Early History of Glastonbury”by John Scott, a translation of Malmesbury’s medieval history (Bury St Edmunds: Boydell Press, 1981).
In some versions of the Grail romances, Joseph {of Arimathea} is taught “the secret words of Jesus” by the Lord himself. Joseph was the one chosen to dress and prepare Jesus’ body for burial (See John 19:38-40). The significance will not be lost on Latter-Day Saints.
Just how much authority did Joseph of Arimathea have? His alleged successors “claimed to have secret knowledge, unknown to the established church”. According to the Grail romances, the holder of the Grail (the priesthood?) was called the “rich fisher” or “fisher king”, apparently referring to Peter, the fisherman.
The belief in the English Celtic church was that they traced their authority back directly to Christ, without going through Rome. Indeed, Malmesbury (in about 1125) refers to Glastonbury as a “second Rome”. Some go even further, and believe that the evidence shows that the British church was far older than that of Rome, and built on stronger foundations.

The Holy Grail, according to many, is nothing else than the priesthood authority, as preserved in a farflung corner of the Lord’s vineyard, away from the corruption of Rome. When it was lost, it was sorely missed.
“The legends of Arthur and the Grail were to enshrine the resistance of many peoples to the authority of the Holy See” (Sinclair p.19).
So it was all the more important for these traditions, once absorbed by the medieval church {of Rome}, to be changed into a simple story of a cup, just another relic. It was essential to the medieval church that Christians should not be reminded of what they had lost...”
“…It is my claim that the Holy Grail was the priesthood authority, and that this priesthood authority was restored after 1,260 years, and is held by what the world calls the “Mormon” church. The Mormons are in this sense the new Celts.
There was a time in Mormon history, the mid nineteenth century, when the church was under tremendous pressure from outside, and almost did not survive. In the year 1837, when great numbers were leaving (or being excommunicated from) the church, some of the best missionaries were sent to the British Isles. Over the next decades, tens of thousands of men and women in Arthur’s land answered the call. There was even a time when there were more “Mormons” in Britain than in America. It is no exaggeration to say that the British saints saved the church from extinction. This time the Grail would not be lost again. Arthur had returned!”

Noble or “Royal” Ancestry
The following links portray vividly Lucifer’s contention that he would buy up armies, navies, kingdoms, dominions and rule with horror on this earth and how he played religions against each other as well. It is truly a miracle that we as descendants of “royalty”, are even alive today. I asked the question why if the nobles were related to each other, why they fought each other as nations? Simple; Money, power, control – just like today.

These links discuss some of our ‘Noble’ ancestry and may explain why they ended up having wars against each other’s countries and how we have French, Spanish and Portuguese ancestry in our ‘noble’ lines – (and a few Muslim ones too, via Spain) -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_I_of_England

This was brought to my attention after watching the Katharine Hepburn movie from 1936 “Mary of Scotland” on the Turner Classic Movie channel this past week -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_ ... n_of_Scots
which did not use the name “Hepburn”, although Mary married James Hepburn, 4th Earl of Bothwell (Hollywood didn’t want to confuse the viewers.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_Queen_of_Scots

Other ‘Nobles’ –
Bruce
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bruce
Oldenburgs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Oldenburg
Stewarts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Stuart
Tudors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Tudor
Habsburgs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Habsburg
Plantagenets
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Plantagenet

Other links –
!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_ ... yal_Family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Emperor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Brittany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peerage_of_England

From My Temple Cousin Status Report from CHRIST-mas 2011 I wrote -

On this day in which we celebrate the birth of our elder brother (and yes, we ARE literally related via Saint Joseph of Arimathea – “founder of British Christianity”!), Savior and Messiah (even if it really is on April 6), I am so grateful to the Lord for allowing me to come to earth, experience life, participate in the Plan of Salvation, work through the repentance process, be able to renew my covenants and be reborn again each week and for being given the great and awesome privilege of getting to know each one of you in this holy and sacred temple ordinance work. I, along with those that have passed on am eternally grateful to you for the work you do and gave done to help us get this far in helping our combined ancestors out in their time of need.

Joseph of Arimathea - Who was he?
http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/jose ... ea-faq.htm
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... _Arimathea
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... cient_time
Alluding to the time the Saviour walked around in Great Britain as a boy with his uncle, Joseph of Arimathea –
http://www3.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Jer ... ings_Parry)
http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/j/e/r/jerusalem.htm Patriotic Anthem of England by William Blake and Sir Charles Humphrey H Parry

The “Jerusalem” Hymn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKaJ4b0XYmI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URuwU5Zz ... re=related
1. And did those feet in ancient time

Walk upon England's mountains green?

[b]And was the Holy Lamb of God

On England's pleasant pastures seen?[
/b]


And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?

And was Jerusalem builded here

Among these dark satanic mills? 


2. Bring me my bow of burning gold!

Bring me my arrows of desire!

Bring me my spear!
O clouds unfold!

Bring me my chariot of fire!

I will not cease from mental fight

Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand

Till we have built Jerusalem

In England's green and pleasant land.

1 comment:

  1. LOVE Vern's book, which I bought as a Christmas present for myself a few years ago. So glad that he was willing to put his name out there, and stick his neck out, because this book is truly an inspiring read.

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