Snuffer has written some religious oriented books that are pretty much his sales tool for engendering himself with LDS then goes off the beaten bath and imagines that because the Nauvoo Temple was never properly finished when it was dedicated and so the Church failed in some dictate that leaves the Church cut off - there must have been more stuff included but I was too bored pay it much attention. He has a little following who were self authorized to baptize each other and who knows what else.
On a similar topic, I like the research that Waterman of Pure Mormanism comes up with. I appreciate someone explaining what "interest" means in 19th century lingo, that no one in the Church leadership has felt to enlighten us. Waterman get's hung up on the Church structure as Joseph established it where the 70's and council of 50 were authorized to be over the Church where in the apostles were strictly called to preach the gospel. He tends to ignore that Joseph had empowered and authorized the apostles in their position not to mention, you have to have a head, leader such as Brigham who was the lead apostle, to guide things otherwise a group of men without a head is anarchy, it does not work in this world we live in.
A lot of things Joseph attempted to establish didn't work. Joseph was directed to establish the New Jerusalem in Independence Missouri, and they were pushed out, another attempt at Far West, kicked out again. It makes no sense to some, why all these failures occurred. God fully knew these events would happen in the way they occurred when he commanded Joseph. We don't really understand why so many things were attempted and failed. I believe these requirements were patterns to follow when it is time to establish the New Jerusalem, along with a council of 50, polygamy, United Order, et al will be revived when the time is right. Waterman's solution was for members to vote with their feet and leave, which is absurd, as though that will serve them (the Church) right sort of silliness.- Where are they going to go??? Human beings are social, that means people will associate with some one or group for better or worse, much better to associate with the people who know more truths of any other people to provide a structure for their children. I have read that only 10% of the Mormons who leave the church will join another denomination. Obviously when when you have the perspective of the LDS there is no other place to go. Only the pathetic and needy who never understood the doctrine in the first place will join another denomination.
Waterman and Snuffer are smart men, but then smart men are so very easily seduced by Pride I would also add some of the leadership, of the Church (are all very smart men) that permit corruption to creep into the Church by catering to "the world". The Lord permits man kind their own free agency to act for themselves wether good or bad until he puts his foot down at the right time for preservation of the Church. For now, it is more important to try our faith in the gospel and not men, wether it is the Church or government, media or whatever, test our ability to choose between tradition and what we sense. Our conscience is the first line of protection.
Who is Denver Snuffer?
ReplyDeleteSnuffer has written some religious oriented books that are pretty much his sales tool for engendering himself with LDS then goes off the beaten bath and imagines that because the Nauvoo Temple was never properly finished when it was dedicated and so the Church failed in some dictate that leaves the Church cut off - there must have been more stuff included but I was too bored pay it much attention. He has a little following who were self authorized to baptize each other and who knows what else.
ReplyDeleteOn a similar topic, I like the research that Waterman of Pure Mormanism comes up with. I appreciate someone explaining what "interest" means in 19th century lingo, that no one in the Church leadership has felt to enlighten us.
Waterman get's hung up on the Church structure as Joseph established it
where the 70's and council of 50 were authorized to be over the Church where in the apostles were strictly called to preach the gospel. He tends to ignore that Joseph had empowered and authorized the apostles in their position not to mention, you have to have a head, leader such as Brigham who was the lead apostle, to guide things otherwise a group of men without a head is anarchy, it does not work in this world we live in.
A lot of things Joseph attempted to establish didn't work. Joseph was directed to establish the New Jerusalem in Independence Missouri, and they were pushed out, another attempt at Far West, kicked out again. It makes no sense to some, why all these failures occurred. God fully knew these events would happen in the way they occurred when he commanded Joseph. We don't really understand why so many things were attempted and failed. I believe these requirements were patterns to follow when it is time to establish the New Jerusalem, along with a council of 50, polygamy, United Order, et al will be revived when the time is right.
Waterman's solution was for members to vote with their feet and leave, which is absurd, as though that will serve them (the Church) right sort of silliness.- Where are they going to go??? Human beings are social, that means people will associate with some one or group for better or worse, much better to associate with the people who know more truths of any other people to provide a structure for their children. I have read that only 10% of the Mormons who leave the church will join another denomination. Obviously when when you have the perspective of the LDS there is no other place to go. Only the pathetic and needy who never understood the doctrine in the first place will join another denomination.
Waterman and Snuffer are smart men, but then smart men are so very easily seduced by Pride I would also add some of the leadership, of the Church (are all very smart men) that permit corruption to creep into the Church by catering to "the world". The Lord permits man kind their own free agency to act for themselves wether good or bad until he puts his foot down at the right time for preservation of the Church. For now, it is more important to try our faith in the gospel and not men, wether it is the Church or government, media or whatever, test our ability to choose between tradition and what we sense. Our conscience is the first line of protection.