Saturday, May 8, 2021

PROPHECIES OF BISHOP KOYLE MESHING WITH OTHER PROPHECIES

I love comments with good analysis.  Here is one of them:

I would like to point out that the following doesn't seem likely: "When that happens, President Oaks will be called as the Prophet in the Conference Center after the Joseph and the Savior make their appearance as Heber C. Kimball prophesied (and Spencer confirmed in his narrative)." First of all, Heber C. Kimball never said any such thing about President Oaks. Second, this completely contradicts with Bishop Koyle said, who you acknowledge as a true prophet. Koyle said when Joseph returns to cleanse the church, ALL of the leaders in Salt Lake will be dismissed and new ones called in their place.

I think there are a few problems with this analysis.  First of all, none of the quotes from Koyle were written by him.  At best, they are according to some memories of others that likely had his best interests in mind.  Possibly on some, not so much.  I stand behind the one about Joseph cleaning out the leadership.  Especially when you combine the scripture of the One Mighty and Strong having to set things in order (since when do you have to order something that is perfect in it's form??) along with Joseph's statement about the Prophet and a majority of the Brethren (implying there will be a future schism).  Last indication that something will go wrong is Joseph's last dream about the farm and the rabble that had taken it over.  Middle managers, etc.  Sadly, most of them are great managers, but not the salt of the earth that God requires to run His kingdom.  I would give anything for someone who has the spirit over someone who can make a congregation zing along with perfect precision.  If you can get both in one package, it is amazing.  But rare.  The best managers are usually the alpha males.  Alpha males rarely will make it to the Kingdom because humility is not their key trait, by definition.  To be sure, many who are able to successfully climb the ladder of corporatism, are labeled as psychopathic because you have to be ruthless in order to climb.  I am a recovering type A personality.  It has long-since become toxic to me and I despise those who jockey to be part of a clique or among the most favored of man.  I was talking to my wife about this the other day.  On my mission, I was an AP but there was a ton of jockying to that point.  Men desire prestige/position (I have not observed it with the women so much), but I have observed that women jockey over looks, precisely because that is what men seek out.  Man's desire for prestige/position/power is driven by what the women desire.  A well-dressed man, driving a sleek, expensive car exuding wealth is like an aphrodisiac for the average woman.  I avoided those women like the plague, because I knew they were trouble.  I have witnessed divorce after divorce because of these two traits.  The hottest girls in high school married the top alpha males and both crashed and burned hard.  When the looks started to fade in the hot girls or the top alpha did not deliver the high lifestyle, the union was over.  Almost all of them on the rocks.  Those that survived the carnage?  Those that were not full of themselves.  The plain-janers as I used to call them.  The ones that were rock solid all along.  They lacked flash-in-the-pan qualities.  So no, I steer clear of many flashy people and stick to the simple ones whether in public or in the spiritual squares.

All things point to Koyle's intent being correct.  Exactly what he said and in what context leaves a shadow on everything he said.  As with anything that speaks of the future, there are opinions generated by people and there are those things whispered by the Spirit.  The Spirit has never been wrong for me.  My guesses and musings?  At least 90% wrong.

Last of all.  Even though someone says something (that was good at the time), there is still agency.  Agency can change the outcomes of location/time/event.  I predicted the time (to the day)/event (me dying) and the location was immaterial to those first two things.  My wife, having premonitions of that big event, felt two weeks before after she was pondering on a grandparent's funeral she had gone to Colorado to attend, to ask that it not be her husband and I believe the events were set in motion that it be our son who was taken over to the other side instead of her husband.  Many other events confirmed this.  I have a few data points, but obviously this is hard to gather extensive data on.  But we can change the outcome of uttered prophecy by our good or bad actions.  PBs are a good source of data.  Many do not rise up to the qualifiers and those promises fade.  Fact is; most contracts and covenants entered into are ever fulfilled perfectly.

Anyway - just some musings on this very thing (the comment above) I have pondered on for years.  Barring a huge disaster, Elder Oaks will make the push into the Millennium.  I look forward to it.  We named out kid who died of SIDS after him, so we have a lot riding on this.... ;)


 

7 comments:

  1. https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/utah-teen-hospitalized-with-blood-clots-in-his-brain

    Blood clots after vacc and parents say it's not vaccine related. Hmmmm

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  2. I love Koyle and i am a big fan of Koyle. Like you said it is hard to know what Koyle said and what he didnt. The one about Koyle saying the Lord would clean out the leadership of the church is not a koyle quote, it is one that Ogden Kraut falsley put in and tried to claim as being true. it never was. Kraut got exed for polygamy.... I can personally attest with 100% certainty that President Nelson and the 12 are very aware of what is going on and are right with the Lord. Dude the trials are barley starting and you a freaking out about things that are very easy to not be freaked out about. As Joseph has said the Standard of truth quote, you cant believe in Joseph and not belive this church is in good standing and its leaders. The supposed Josephs last dream is not even legit.

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    1. I wonder how he knows that Kraut made up the statement? Because Kraut was Xed he naturally expressed his prejudice, assigning a fraudulent statement to Koyle, whom he had such loyalty to and knows he will have to meet him later?

      I see no evidence that the Church leadership even has a clue of the extent of the Secret Combinations that have brought upon us these diseases and experimental shot (that has not gone through years of testing) upon us, deteriorating the populaces' health. Have ignored the deplatformed doctors and experts around the world who have tried to warn the people.
      The Church only follows and parrot whatever is in the popular media as long as it does not come into direct conflict with standard morality.

      I have never known a time in biblical or BofM history where prophets have been popular in a culture that is steeped in wickedness. Keeping below the popular cultures radar seems to be the goal, but in the process that flaxen cord rests upon our collective neck as members faithfully follow the cult of personality and get their shots, inline with the Church's example with the Government and media.

      I am sick in the heart, that so many innocent, ignorant and faithful members will be damaged and some permanently if not dead. They may have to cry night and day for deliverance.

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  3. "Alpha males rarely will make it to the Kingdom because humility is not their key trait, by definition." I think you will be shocked

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  4. New to this whole blog thing. Was just wondering if in your posts, you might be able to provide links to what you make references about?

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  5. Oaks got the jab the same as Nelson, so won't he also suffer the same fate?

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  6. ...along with Joseph's statement about the Prophet and a majority of the Brethren (implying there will be a future schism).

    Where can I find this comment from Joseph about the future schism within the 15?

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