Thursday, November 26, 2015

GENTILES AND THEIR RELATION TO THE NEW JERSALEM

This is a GREAT comment from a reader that I had to get into the news feed:

When a person joins the church they are still Gentiles until the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost make each person who experiences this epiphany a literal seed of Abraham and thus the Remnant of Israel. Gentile members who will not allow Christ to convert them are the Gentiles who reject the fullness of the Gospel prophesied in the BoM.The North American Indians who have had their calling and elections made sure are the ones who build the New Jerusalem under the direction of chosen members of the church who are of the tribe of Ephraim. The only way any of us can come unto the Lord is through His church. Period. 

OH - and Happy Thanksgiving!!

Let us all be grateful for what we have - no matter how meager our circumstances may be....... IT CAN ALWAYS GET WORSE........  And it will, soon.

5 comments:

  1. There is only two Church's to choose from... you will know them by the "fruits of the spirit" (Galatians 5:22-26) or the "works of the flesh" (Galatians 5:19-21).

    And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.
    11 And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters; and she had dominion over all the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people.
    12 And it came to pass that I beheld the church of the Lamb of God, and its numbers were few, because of the wickedness and abominations of the whore who sat upon many waters; nevertheless, I beheld that the church of the Lamb, who were the saints of God, were also upon all the face of the earth; and their dominions upon the face of the earth were small, because of the wickedness of the great whore whom I saw.

    (Book of Mormon | 1 Nephi 14:10 - 12)

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  2. See, someone else gets it that it's some members of the House of Israel that still remain in the Big and Spacious building and is found fighting against the apostles of the Lamb of God. The ones who still cling to the world, support GAY MARRIAGE like Marie Osmond and many other members, and who cannot get both feet out of Babylon. Yes, it will be those members of the Church who turn against our leaders and members. It would seem the great sifting President Benson spoke of has begun.

    Great post IRAQ. These kind are the best! The wake-up call ones that the Spirit testifies are true telling us to give heed to.

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  3. "Israelites are white skinned and blue eyed. Gentiles are white skinned and brown eyed. And yes, you can have both Israelites and Gentiles in a single family."
    Could you please list the scripture reference that states the above quote?
    My eye color has changed 4 times since I was born. It started out blue, like most fair skinned people do. Then when I was two years old they turned brown, then when I was 14 they turn hazel and then when I turn 40 they turn green and have remained green ever since.

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  4. President Joseph Fielding Smith expressed the matter succinctly when he wrote:
    ³It makes no difference what is written or what anyone has said, if what has been said is in conflict with what the Lord has revealed, we can set it aside. My words, and the teachings of any other member of the Church, high or low, if they do not square with the revelations, we need not accept them. Let us have this matter clear. We have accepted the four standard works as the measuring yardsticks, or balances, by which we measure every man¹s doctrine.
    You cannot accept the books written by the authorities of the Church as standards in doctrine, only in so far as they accord with the revealed word in the standard works.
    Every man who writes is responsible, not the Church, for what he writes. (referring to himself) If Joseph Fielding Smith writes something which is out of harmony with the revelations, then every member of the Church is duty bound to reject it. If he writes that which is in perfect harmony with the revealed work of the Lord, then it should be accepted.² ¬ Doctrines of Salvation ¬ Sermons and Writings of Joseph Fielding Smith, 1956, Vol. III, pp. 203-204.

    Get a grip on your speculations and go back and substantiate all truth by canon scripture, just as our Lord and Savior did as an example for us to follow, when teaching...period!

    We in this church are a part of the Gentiles in scripture and prophecy. We are NOT the remnant spoken of who will build Zion, but those righteous Gentiles, who the Lord see fit, will assist them. PLEASE reread 3 Nephi chapters 16, 20, & 21 for your answers to these questions directly from Christ's teachings to the remnant forefathers.

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  5. Just to clarify.
    “The Holy Ghost has no other effect than pure intelligence. It is more powerful in expanding the mind, enlightening the understanding, and storing the intellect with present knowledge, of a man who is of the literal seed of Abraham, than one that is a Gentile, though it may not have half as much visible effect upon the body; for as the Holy Ghost falls upon one of the literal seed of Abraham, it is calm and serene; and his whole soul and body are only exercised by the pure spirit of intelligence; while the effect of the Holy Ghost upon a Gentile, is to purge out the old blood, and make him actually of the seed of Abraham. That man that has none of the blood of Abraham (naturally) must have a new creation by the Holy Ghost. In such a case, there may be more of a powerful effect upon the body, and visible to the eye, than upon an Israelite, while the Israelite at first might be far before the Gentile in pure intelligence.” Teachings of The Prophet Joseph Smith - page 149-150 (To become the literal seed of Abraham is to become a pure blooded Israelite)
    This does not conflict with the scriptures at all but the Prophet Joseph Smith was expounding what the Lord had already revealed. The converted Gentiles are numbered with the literal seed of Abraham, entitled to the very same blessings as if they were born as the literal seed of Abraham. Yes, the born naturally literal seed of Abraham, the pure blooded native American Indians who have had their calling and elections made sure (One must be truly worthy to build the City Of New Jerusalem) will be the ones promised by Christ to build the sacred city under the direction of worthy members of the tribe of Ephraim. We must become truly converted by the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, which will among other things, change us into the literal seed of Abraham as the Lord through the Prophet Joseph Smith stated.

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