Thursday, October 10, 2013

CIVIL WAR TWO STARTING IN CHICAGO

Someone asked about this in a comment from a recent blog post.

Here is something I copied from a blog post in 2009:
This was a letter from Nephi Packard to A. Milton Musser on July 24, 1896:

"... My brother, Noah Packard, says that he heard the Prophet Joseph say that the next great (U.S. civil) war after the war of the rebellion (the Civil War of the 1860's between the North and the South) would commence in a little town now called Chicago but at that time it would have grown to be a very large city. And another brother told me that the Prophet said that the cause of the next great trouble of the United States would be the depreciation of the currency of the United States. I believe I have given you all the facts in as short and concise manner as possible."

Another quote regarding the Civil War itself comes from an interview by Dr. Poulson with David Whitmer, printed in the Deseret News on Friday, August 16, 1878:

Question: When will the temple be built in Independence?

Answer: Right after the great tribulation is over

Question: What do you mean by that?

Answer: A civil war more bloody and cruel than the rebellion. It will be the smashing up of this nation, about which time the second great work has to be done, a work like Joseph did, and the translation of the sealed plates and peace all over.


AND HERE IS THE FUEL THAT THEY ARE THROWING ON THE FIRE - INCOME TAXES INCREASING BY HALF. THAT IS RICH. INSTEAD OF CUTTING SERVICES BY 1/3, THESE JOKERS ARE GOING TO TAX PEOPLE INTO THE GROUND. WHAT A JOKE!!!! WE ARE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR THE PERFECT STORM OF RIOTING AND GENERAL DISCONTENT THAT LEADS TO SOCIAL CHAOS.

Illinois Income Tax May Jump 50 Percent
Report: Gov. Pat Quinn Wants Tax Hike To Fight Deficit Reporting
Joanie Lum CHICAGO (CBS) ―
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(3/10/2009)
State Faces Bigger Budget Crisis Than Realized (2/4/2009)
Income taxes in Illinois could soon be going up by as much as 50 percent to combat deficits in a difficult state budget.

As CBS 2's Joanie Lum reports, Gov. Pat Quinn is reportedly considering raising taxes to deal with a growing budget deficit.

Quinn has been hinting about the problems in the state budget this year for some time. He gives his first address on the subject next Wednesday, and there is word that income taxes will go up as 50 percent.

The Chicago Tribune reports that Quinn wants to raise the state income tax to 4.5 percent from 3 percent.

Illinoisans have had a lower income tax rate than other states for some time. This would be the first increase in 20 years.

In addition, some business tax breaks would be eliminated, and Quinn promises to tighten state government spending.

Quinn will balance the increase by raising the standard tax exemption up to $6,000 per person from $2,000, to help low- and middle-income families.

The income tax increase could bring in nearly $4 billion. The budget deficit is expected to be more than $9 billion by the summer of 2010.

Taxpayers in Chicago weren't surprised, but many said the timing is poor.

"We already can't afford to pay the taxes – people who have homes and what have you now, so it's going to be really rough," said Nadeja Borras.

"Already, the taxes are pretty high, so it could be a disadvantage for the State of Illinois," said Sara Mirarefi.

But some Chicagoans thought a tax increase might be necessary.

"I think it's about time somebody's got the guts to go in there and say, 'Hey, we have to increase taxes,'" said Jim Kauss. "We have to pay for this. it's not free."


State lawmakers are also talking about raising gasoline taxes to pay for road and bridge construction. Fees on driver's licenses and license plate stickers may also go up.

CBS 2 Political Editor Mike Flannery is talking one-on-one with Gov. Quinn later in the day.
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1 comment:

  1. Thank you for posting this. The reason I was interested is because I read on a web site that was critical of Nephi Packard’s quote of Joseph Smith. It stated that Chicago was a large city even during Joseph Smith’s time. After some research I came across this link: http://qrc.depaul.edu/Excel_Files/Chicago/ChicagoPopulation1830-2000.xls
    which indicates that Chicago was indeed a “little town” that grew from about 100 people to about 4500 from 1830 to 1840. It grew to about 30,000 by 1850. I don’t know when Nephi Packard heard Joseph Smith make this prophecy but even if Chicago had grown to 15, 000 by the time he died in 1844 I think it would still qualify as a little town when compared to its current population of 2.7 million people.

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