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Prophecies of the protests and riots that are coming

Postby NoGreaterLove » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:14 pm
Remember Joseph Smith vision in where he saw neighbor against neighbor and city against city and it got so terrible he asked the Lord to shut it up? IMO these protests are a rapid acceleration of the events that will cause this vision to come true.

• 1 Nephi 21:26
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; they shall be drunken with their own blood as with sweet wine; and all flesh shall know that I, the Lord, am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.
• 1 Nephi 22:13
13 And the blood of that great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall turn upon their own heads; for they shall war among themselves, and the sword of their own hands shall fall upon their own heads, and they shall be drunken with their own blood.
• 2 Nephi 6:18
18 And I will feed them that oppress thee, with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood as with sweet wine; and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.
• Isaiah 49:26
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

• Doctrine and Covenants 101:89
89 And if the president heed them not, then will the Lord arise and come forth out of his hiding place, and in his fury vex the nation;
D&C 87
4 And it shall come to pass, after many days, slaves shall rise up against their masters, who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war.
5 And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry, and shall vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation.
6 And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations;
7 That the cry of the saints, and of the blood of the saints, shall cease to come up into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth, from the earth, to be avenged of their enemies.
• Ezekiel 32:9
9 I will also vex the hearts of many people, when I shall bring thy destruction among the nations, into the countries which thou hast not known.
Doctrine and Covenants 97:23
23 The Lord’s scourge shall pass over by night and by day, and the report thereof shall vex all people; yea, it shall not be stayed until the Lord come


So who is the whore? Who is oppressing the Saints? Who killed the modern day prophets? Who is guilty of not redressing the wrongs of the saints.

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Re: Prophecies of the protests and riots that are coming

Postby Oldemandalton » Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:41 pm
So who is the whore? Who is oppressing the Saints? Who killed the modern day prophets? Who is guilty of not redressing the wrongs of the saints.

NoGreaterLove, this was a rhetorical question right?

The scriptures use many names; the little horn, great and abominable church, the whore of the earth, kingdom of Satan, secret combinations, etc.
Modern prophets have pointed out Marxists and Islamic Jihadists are secret combinations.

Cleon Skousen has added the “Super Rich” in the ‘Naked Capitalist’ and others have added other organizations such as the CFR, Bilderbergers, etc.

My theory is that there is a Master Mahan today who uses these groups for his nefarious ends and is the representative of the Kingdom of Satan on the earth just as God has called Thomas S. Monson to be His representative on earth. Remember that there is opposition in all things. Can you imagine the power of a Master Mahan who can get reports from any evil spirit watching mankind from anywhere around the world?

Your post reminded me of this scripture in the B of M and an article I posted long ago;

The Great and Abominable Church is digging the pit and will fall in themselves.

1 Ne 14: 3 And that great pit, which hath been[b] digged for them by that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hell—yea, that great pit which hath been digged for the destruction of men shall be filled by those who digged it, unto their utter destruction, saith the Lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that hell which hath no end.[/b]

The Pit is explained below with the ‘5 Stages of Collapse’ article.

The Five Stages of Collapse
Dmitry Orlov

Elizabeth Kübler-Ross defined the five stages of coming to terms with grief and tragedy as denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance, and applied it quite successfully to various forms of catastrophic personal loss, such as death of a loved one, sudden end to one's career, and so forth. Several thinkers, notably James Howard Kunstler and, more recently John Michael Greer, have pointed out that the Kübler-Ross model is also quite terrifyingly accurate in reflecting the process by which society as a whole (or at least the informed and thinking parts of it) is reconciling itself to the inevitability of a discontinuous future, with our institutions and life support systems undermined by a combination of resource depletion, catastrophic climate change, and political impotence. But so far, little has been said specifically about the finer structure of these discontinuities. Instead, there is to be found a continuum of subjective judgments, ranging from "a severe and prolonged recession" (the prediction we most often read in the financial press), to Kunstler's "Long Emergency," to the ever-popular "Collapse of Western Civilization," painted with an ever-wider brush-stroke.

For those of us who have already gone through all of the emotional stages of reconciling ourselves to the prospect of social and economic upheaval, it might be helpful to have a more precise terminology that goes beyond such emotionally charged phrases. Defining a taxonomy of collapses might prove to be more than just an intellectual exercise: based on our abilities and circumstances, some of us may be able to specifically plan for a certain stage of collapse as a temporary, or even permanent, stopping point. Even if society at the current stage of socioeconomic complexity will no longer be possible, and even if, as Tainter points in his "Collapse of Complex Societies," there are circumstances in which collapse happens to be the correct adaptive response, it need not automatically cause a population crash, with the survivors disbanding into solitary, feral humans dispersed in the wilderness and subsisting miserably. Collapse can be conceived of as an orderly, organized retreat rather than a rout.

For instance, the collapse of the Soviet Union - our most recent and my personal favorite example of an imperial collapse - did not reach the point of political disintegration of the republics that made it up, although some of them (Georgia, Moldova) did lose some territory to separatist movements. And although most of the economy shut down for a time, many institutions, including the military, public utilities, and public transportation, continued to function throughout. And although there was much social dislocation and suffering, society as a whole did not collapse, because most of the population did not lose access to food, housing, medicine, or any of the other survival necessities. The command-and-control structure of the Soviet economy largely decoupled the necessities of daily life from any element of market psychology, associating them instead with physical flows of energy and physical access to resources. This situation, as I argue in my forthcoming book, Reinventing Collapse, allowed the Soviet population to inadvertently achieve a greater level of collapse-preparedness than is currently possible in the United States.

Having given a lot of thought to both the differences and the similarities between the two superpowers - the one that has collapsed already, and the one that is collapsing as I write this - I feel ready to attempt a bold conjecture, and define five stages of collapse, to serve as mental milestones as we gauge our own collapse-preparedness and see what can be done to improve it. Rather than tying each phase to a particular emotion, as in the Kübler-Ross model, the proposed taxonomy ties each of the five collapse stages to the breaching of a specific level of trust, or faith, in the status quo. Although each stage causes physical, observable changes in the environment, these can be gradual, while the mental flip is generally quite swift. It is something of a cultural universal that nobody (but a real fool) wants to be the last fool to believe in a lie.

Stages of Collapse
Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in "business as usual" is lost. The future is no longer assumed resemble the past in any way that allows risk to be assessed and financial assets to be guaranteed. Financial institutions become insolvent; savings are wiped out, and access to capital is lost.

Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that "the market shall provide" is lost. Money is devalued and/or becomes scarce, commodities are hoarded, import and retail chains break down, and widespread shortages of survival necessities become the norm.

Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that "the government will take care of you" is lost. As official attempts to mitigate widespread loss of access to commercial sources of survival necessities fail to make a difference, the political establishment loses legitimacy and relevance.

Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that "your people will take care of you" is lost, as local social institutions, be they charities or other groups that rush in to fill the power vacuum run out of resources or fail through internal conflict.

Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in the goodness of humanity is lost. People lose their capacity for "kindness, generosity, consideration, affection, honesty, hospitality, compassion, charity" (Turnbull, The Mountain People). Families disband and compete as individuals for scarce resources. The new motto becomes "May you die today so that I die tomorrow" (Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago). There may even be some cannibalism.

Although many people imagine collapse to be a sort of elevator that goes to the sub-basement (our Stage 5) no matter which button you push, no such automatic mechanism can be discerned. Rather, driving us all to Stage 5 will require that a concerted effort be made at each of the intervening stages. That all the players seem poised to make just such an effort may give this collapse the form a classical tragedy - a conscious but inexorable march to perdition - rather than a farce ("Oops! Ah, here we are, Stage 5." - "So, whom do we eat first?" - "Me! I am delicious!") Let us sketch out this process.

Financial collapse, as we are are currently observing it, consists of two parts. One is that a part of the general population is forced to move, no longer able to afford the house they bought based on inflated assessments, forged income numbers, and foolish expectations of endless asset inflation. Since, technically, they should never have been allowed to buy these houses, and were only able to do so because of financial and political malfeasance, this is actually a healthy development. The second part consists of men in expensive suits tossing bundles of suddenly worthless paper up in the air, ripping out their remaining hair, and (some of us might uncharitably hope) setting themselves on fire on the steps of the Federal Reserve. They, to express it in their own vernacular, "[screwed] up," and so this is also just as it should be.

The government response to this could be to offer some helpful homilies about "the wages of sin" and to open a few soup kitchens and flop houses in a variety of locations including Wall Street. The message would be: "You former debt addicts and gamblers, as you say, '[screwed] up,' and so this will really hurt for a long time. We will never let you anywhere near big money again. Get yourselves over to the soup kitchen, and bring your own bowl, because we don't do dishes." This would result in a stable Stage 1 collapse - the Second Great Depression.http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2008/02/f ... lapse.html




The pit IMO is the crisis that is now being manufactured by the great and abominable church. Satan’s hope is to destroy the Church, first financially (less money, less missionary work and temples), then through tyranny and lose of religious and other freedoms. Lucifer also gets the benefit of death and destruction which he loves and revels in.

Using Orlov’s Five Stages this is what I see;

1.We have gone through stages one and two due to the printing of trillions of dollars (QE 1, 2 and 3?), the bail outs, and almost 0% interest rates which will cause the collapse of the dollar which will in turn collapse every other world currency since they were all tied to the dollar at Bretton Woods. The Euro may even go first and take us down with it.

2.Stage three began in Europe two years ago, spread to the Middle East and now here with the mass demonstrations created by the Marxist Revolutionaries, Unions, and Leftists Soros funded groups. They want this to increase in intensity till the people to cry for a solution.

3.Next they will offer the solution they have been planning for, “top down, bottom up, inside out”. "Capitalism failed so we must replace it with Socialism or even better Communism". “In order to create this new system and bring back peace and order we may have to sacrifice a few liberties for a while.” “A World Bank and World Currency would solve the financial crises.”

4.A Middle East War or even World War would be a nice touch to send the whole world over the cliff of collapse. One spark would set it off. Too many flash points around. After WW I we got the League of Nations. After WW II we got the United Nations. What are they planning after WW III? The whole World will go into stage 3, Political collapse. Wars will increase and governments across the globe will be overthrown by dictators or false 'democracies'. Evil men will desire to take over other regions as their economies collapse. What will countries like Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. be willing to do to salvage their countries and economies? Areas of the world and our country will fall to stages 4 & 5 during this period. Missionaries called home during the anarchy.

5.The plan is to have the sheeple of the world be convinced that a World Government and economic system will be required to save mankind. Do away with all these warring armies and have one world army. Do away with all of these collapsing governments when only one is needed. Have one police force. Have one religion incorporating all that is good and get rid of all of the religious strife.

The problem with digging a pit to trap your enemy is that you may fall in yourself. This is what God has prophesied will happen. The pit dug by Master Mahan and his secret combinations will be their own down fall. Hard to control a fire once it is set.


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